reverse sensors

[viper560n]

Hi Im a new owner of a black terri and have had it for under a week, is it possible to have the reverse sensors fitted now that i already have it in my possession? How much does it usually cost?

[Stav]

Around 350- 450 dollars. Sounds like a load of absolute crap to me. I can fit them to even a soccer ball!!

[new2ford]

I don't have one on my TX but when I drove demos with it I found it didn't do anything for me. Years of living/working in the inner city have honed my reverse parking skills. In most of those tight situations the sensor would be going all the time so it wouldn't really tell you anything. Failing that, a towbar is the best reversing sensor (though not for the car behind you!).

[johnydep]

I don't have one on my TX but when I drove demos with it I found it didn't do anything for me. Years of living/working in the inner city have honed my reverse parking skills. In most of those tight situations the sensor would be going all the time so it wouldn't really tell you anything. Failing that, a towbar is the best reversing sensor (though not for the car behind you!).

The time between beeps decreases as the vehicle gets closer to the object.

[Stav]

Failing that, a towbar is the best reversing sensor (though not for the car behind you!).
So it was you!!!! :shootout:

Seriously though the new plastic bumper bars on modern cars cost a fortune and are easily damaged.You would think they were made by kinda surprise.Any reversing aid has got to be better than a hitting or being hit.

[new2ford]

The time between beeps decreases as the vehicle gets closer to the object.

Saying that though, my wife it a pole in a car park. Our Ghia has the sensors & I made sure we got the tow bar as well, for the reason you mentioned, and still she dented the bumper. :Whatever_

Yes forgot about the beep interval sorry. I just found that when you're down to centimetres in a typical city kerbside park I was relying more on my instincts and the mirrors than the sensor. Poles are another issue! Would be interested to know what happened to your bumper bar johnydep. The Terri's bumpers seem to me to be that in name only, really just another part of the body panels - first car I've been terrified to let them touch at all, not even a rubber insert to fend off a scratch.

[new2ford]

So it was you!!!! :shootout:

Never! I only use my towbar for towing or cutting open my shin. Besides its works both ways when parking - you have to check the car in front of you doesn't have one. For a city kerbside park or the pillars in shopping centres you could also do with sensors on the front corners - all in all, I just rely on my years of instinct. For a less confident driver the sensors would be good though.

[burnsi]

Hi Im a new owner of a black terri and have had it for under a week, is it possible to have the reverse sensors fitted now that i already have it in my possession? How much does it usually cost?
Ford/Territory website says a genuine Ford unit is available as a dealer fit for $500.

It also says: "Feature standard on Ghia. Factory fit sensors' appearance and audio function differ from Genuine Ford Accessory Reverse Sensing System" I believe the actual sensors in the rear bar are slightly different to the factory fitted units, and the rear audio signal (your music) doesn't cut-out when reverse is selected - like it does in the factory fitted system.

Or you could go to www.reverseparking.com.au (http://www.reverseparking.com.au) and select from one of their 3 systems. A friend of mine got their voice distance indicator and camera fitted and it works very well - the voice is an american synthesised voice though! The voice only system is $199 + fitting - I believe fitting is less than $100. And they did a very nice job on the sensor cut-outs in her rear bumper.

Cheers,

[viper560n]

Ford/Territory website says a genuine Ford unit is available as a dealer fit for $500.

It also says: "Feature standard on Ghia. Factory fit sensors' appearance and audio function differ from Genuine Ford Accessory Reverse Sensing System" I believe the actual sensors in the rear bar are slightly different to the factory fitted units, and the rear audio signal (your music) doesn't cut-out when reverse is selected - like it does in the factory fitted system.

Or you could go to www.reverseparking.com.au (http://www.reverseparking.com.au) and select from one of their 3 systems. A friend of mine got their voice distance indicator and camera fitted and it works very well - the voice is an american synthesised voice though! The voice only system is $199 + fitting - I believe fitting is less than $100. And they did a very nice job on the sensor cut-outs in her rear bumper.

Cheers,



do you know of any place in melbourne that fits systems like this?

[Mechan1k]

I have the sensors in my TX AWD ... I put them in as an option mainly for the fiancee ... I am fine with parking ... but it can help though ... especially in my carpark at work ... it's a bloody rabbit warren. But I found even when the sensor is just sounding a continuous beep ... I am still half a metre away from any object.

It can be annoying when there is nothing around though ... it sounds like someone is sending you morse code ... LOL. Dunno why ... but it consistency of the beeps fluctuates ... and there is nothing at all around the car (this is when reversing out of a flat driveway as well).

[burnsi]

do you know of any place in melbourne that fits systems like this?
Give the Sydney guys a call, as I believe they have a Melbourne outlet as well.

[Steve D]

[Resurrecting thread...]

We've got sensors on our Magna. Great for parking a vehicle where visibility to the rear is not so great. Can use the last few inches of space when getting out of tight spots.

Also good for scaring others as they sit in their car as you reverse towards them! :hihi:

You have to watch out for posts though, the sensors don't pick them up as easily as, say, a wall, until you're much closer when they go straight from silent to desperate mode.

What I'm wondering is how do those mirrors (like you see on Delicas and other Japanese vans) compare. Are they just as good for reversing? I expect they would be great for backing up to your trailer/caravan. Perhaps they're a bit too 'rice' for a Territory, though.

The other question is for the reversing camera. Can you activate it at the lights, with zoom, to check out the driver in the car behind you? :peepwall:

[allypally]

Just thinking... It should be faily easy to run the rear camera via a switch and then have the abilty to turn it on while you were driving forward. Now I just have to work out why I would want to do that !

[Peter B]

Just thinking... It should be faily easy to run the rear camera via a switch and then have the abilty to turn it on while you were driving forward. Now I just have to work out why I would want to do that !
allypally, when you do find a reason, save it for the judge as I'm pretty sure it would be illegal, as a major driver distraction.
I have heard though that some caravans and RV have them fitted so that they can keep an eye on the rapidly approaching Mack truck behind, so how do they get away with it?

[allypally]

Peter, I see your point, but I don't think it would be illegal... well no more illegal as those front seat computers the pooleeeece cars have, or a satnav system. Would it be more of a distraction than a rear view mirror? Not that I condone the use of a mirror.

[Territory]

The camera is angled downwards and tucked under the license plate area to avoid it ever getting sun blinded and to keep it clean. It sees back about 15m but only from about license plate height downward.

[FirstFord]

There are regulations relating to monitors being a driving distraction. I think its ok to have a monitor where the driver can see it, but not for it to be in use whilst driving. The exception is for GPS Navigation. I recall there being an issue where a driver was fined for using his GPS, but was able to show that the traffic regulations specifically exempted GPS.

[Raptor]

I'd rather the camera myself.

The camera is angled downwards and tucked under the license plate area to avoid it ever getting sun blinded and to keep it clean. It sees back about 15m but only from about license plate height downward.

So that's where it is on the SY models.

Any idea of whether it will retrofit an SX Territory, though I doubt Ford pricing will be to my liking anyway ($1000 option on TS SY models?).

Can you tell us how long the camera has been in the pipeline Territory, was it's introduction influenced by comments on here? We'd all like to think so.

So far I can cross Mercury_Silver paint and the reversing camera off my want list if (when) I trade up. Still to do are turbo and larger alloys :)

[allypally]

I understand the camera is fitted under the tailgate catch lip, similar to a Lexus RX330. Just visible.

[luv my terri]

Can you fit sensors to the front of the Territory?

[new2ford]

Can you fit sensors to the front of the Territory?
Funny, my wife has the same question! Those high SUV guards can be hard to see over if you're smaller and you're squeezing past a pillar in a carpark. In the end you build up reliance on your instinctive judgement.

[allypally]

I see no technical reason why after market sensors would not work on the front.
You would probably get a lot of false alerts with bugs etc, and certainly would make tailgateing interesting. Why not go whoile hog and put an infra red camera on the front as well? That way you could also see in fog. Then add the guns, and rocket launcher.... Ohhh I know, I am getting carried away.

[Black Terra]

I see no technical reason why after market sensors would not work on the front.
You would probably get a lot of false alerts with bugs etc, and certainly would make tailgateing interesting. Why not go whoile hog and put an infra red camera on the front as well? That way you could also see in fog. Then add the guns, and rocket launcher.... Ohhh I know, I am getting carried away.

I WANT ONE! :peepwall:

[Steve D]

Had a drive in a Caprice a few weeks ago, fitted with the front sensors. It had three on each corner (two front and one side). Unlike the reverse sensors they are always active, as even when reversing, the nose of your car may swing close to a solid object. They can also go off just passing by something reasonably close such as when travelling close to a line of parked cars. Just a single quick beep in the instances I encountered - it took a while to realise what it was when driving normally.

The system used different tones for left, right and rear, so I guess after a little while you'd habitually know which side of the car the obstacle is on.

[Territory]

I'd rather the camera myself.
So that's where it is on the SY models.

Any idea of whether it will retrofit an SX Territory, though I doubt Ford pricing will be to my liking anyway ($1000 option on TS SY models?).

Can you tell us how long the camera has been in the pipeline Territory, was it's introduction influenced by comments on here? We'd all like to think so.

So far I can cross Mercury_Silver paint and the reversing camera off my want list if (when) I trade up. Still to do are turbo and larger alloys :)
We'd been planning it for more than a year before you raised it here, but your comments certainly helped ensure it actually made it. Mercury Silver - tick! Turbo and larger alloys eh.... I'm listening. Why those two? All things are possible if there is enough customer interest but you know the deal :monkes:

[Black Terra]

How about an alloy block which would save a fair bit of weight & so make economy better, performance & also handling.

[Raptor]

..............
Reversing Camera - tick!
Mercury Silver - tick!

Turbo and larger alloys eh.... I'm listening. Why those two?
All things are possible if there is enough customer interest but you know the deal :monkes:

Getting off topic but seeing that you've asked;

If I was a Falcon buyer I'd be in a XR6T but eyeing off some of the nice bits of the Fairmont Ghia (must be getting older)

But I'm not, I'm a Territory buyer.

I can see the entry level TX model.
I can see the upspec Ghia model (though not sure it really deserved the name), so I figure the sports model must be the TS and don't go telling me it's the Futura equivalent cause I don't believe anyone really cares about that spec level.

So if TS stands for Territory Sports then it needs more poke and flashier wheels to set it apart.

Do the turbo simply because you can. Do the wheels to provide some differentiation.

If 25~26" tall Falcon tyres come in 215/60/16, 235/45/17 and 245/40/18

Then ~28" tall Territory tyres could be 235/60/17, 255/50/18 and 275/40/20

With the latter 20" option still providing greater sidewall height than the Falcon 17" option. They seem to fit really well too! I've seen a few wearing this size already.

Put the Sports into SUV!

[The Taipan]

TX - based on spec and options tranlates loosely to the futura, with a couple of extras...
Ghia, is more fairmont, rather than fairlane if that's what your thinking.
Which leaves the TS - (TX being a "futura" adds to your TS = "Sports" theory).
Why not gear both at the same price - one with a few more "comfort" goodies, and higher ride height. The other as a "sports" lowered slightly given a more "XR" treatment inside. Given that the Futura and XR6 NA are priced very similarly, this may not be as impossible to do...

SL

[Raptor]

Fair enough Taipan, we don't want the Territory being associated with fleet/taxi markets so;

TX = Futura
TS = XR6/XR6T
Ghia = Fairmont/Fairmont Ghia?

I see the rumoured High Ride Model (anything at SMS?) being something else again;

HRM = RTV :)

I'll take my next Territory Sports with the "comfort" goodies (eg. Premium ICC) while feel free to base the HRM on the TX.

Anything else we can help you with Territory?

[rcfinc]

On the topic of factory reversing sensors is anyone happy with the way they work? Or had them fixed at a service if not happy? Mine do work well when reversing but I get many strange sounds at random times, eg. constant beep when reversing with nothing behind.

I want to hear the experiences of others so I can take to my dealer with ideas. The Reversing Sensors are great but I like my tow bar as backup support.

[AnthonyQLD]

Well hopefully we will have the option of a turbo terry soon

[dcoz]

On the topic of factory reversing sensors is anyone happy with the way they work? Or had them fixed at a service if not happy? Mine do work well when reversing but I get many strange sounds at random times, eg. constant beep when reversing with nothing behind.

I want to hear the experiences of others so I can take to my dealer with ideas. The Reversing Sensors are great but I like my tow bar as backup support.

Mine work well - they beep when I back out of my driveway and the bumper points to the road but other than that they have been very effective and useful - more so than I expected.

[Steve D]

The Magna's ones sometimes pick up gravel, but I don't worry about it. They used to be more sensitive as they were flush with the bumper (angled down) whereas now they are vertical. Still look OK.

They just beep continuously when the trailer's hooked up. I really need to install an isolation switch in the boot! :offtheair The towbar also has to remain unadorned. Either a tow-ball cap or a shin protector is enough to cause false triggering!

*** Yay! 100 posts! *** :Whatever_

[Mechan1k]

Can you fit sensors to the front of the Territory?

Yeah ... it's called a nudge bar ... hee hee
Seriously ... I am pretty sure you can fit them .. would have to be aftermarket though ... and with a switch to turn it on and off (a friend of mine has it on his Proton ... dunno why) ... driving forward with it on all the time could be annnoying

[rcfinc]

On the topic of factory reversing sensors is anyone happy with the way they work? Or had them fixed at a service if not happy? Mine do work well when reversing but I get many strange sounds at random times, eg. constant beep when reversing with nothing behind.

I want to hear the experiences of others so I can take to my dealer with ideas. The Reversing Sensors are great but I like my tow bar as backup support.
I had my 15K service done last week and asked for my reversing sensors to be checked as they were constantly on. Tech said it was the base plate from my bike rack (MAC RAC Deluxe) tripping the sensor - see url below.

http://macrac.com.au/BikeCarrier_MR3D.html

I was sceptical as I thought all was ok when I first fitted the rack. But got just got the base plate off today and sensors worked correctly. Anyone else with MAC RAC and reversing sensor experiences.

RCFINC