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billlagr
17-04-05, 12:42 PM
The Mrs. REALLY wants a Territory, even went out and got herself a job with more hours too...now thats motivation..anyway, I was looking more at the 2wd rather than the AWD, mainly becasue the liklihood of it ever going off road is almost nil. If we had the AWD then we would be more likely to use it because it was there - but if we dont, having never had a AWD/4WD, then we wouldnt miss it. Are all the 2WD owners out there happy, or would I be better off springing for the AWD anyway. Is there a big difference in fuel consumption and maintenance costs?

TerritoryLover
17-04-05, 01:23 PM
More than happy with 2WD. Save the $4000 and spend it on extras you'll actually use....

Markr
17-04-05, 06:52 PM
I agree with Terri Lover, save the money and enjoy

grahill
17-04-05, 08:43 PM
Love the RWD, and couldn't comment on an AWD as I haven't had the need for one yet. The RWD is more fuel efficient, has different tyres, different sump guard, slightly different gear ratios and something to do with drive bias (so I believe and think that is what it is called), decent control doesn't exist, traction control is great, the seats are comfy, power adjustable pedals handy, can tow and accelerate well, has four wheels with a full sized spare, the clock in the TS and GHIA has been contentious (but I like it), cup holders in front don't seem to hold popular drinks but are removable and washable, coin holder is great, pen and card holder not so, transmission with various modes is fantastic, remote central locking and automatic lights a big improvement on older model Ford's, catches bugs well (but cleans off easily), mud spats don't stop the stones from flicking up and bouncing from a trailer onto your good paintwork at the rear, handles magnificently (especially on gravel and bitumen roads, the best yet), brakes are a little under powered at times, transmission cuts back automatically when traveling around 50kph, no cigarette lighter (yeah), three power outlets (although the rear one needs to be tucked around the corner a bit more to prevent breakage when a cord is plugged into it), two way tailgate action is superb, dust collects profusely at the rear (get a dust deflector fitted), wash ability is good (although dust collects again at the rear and mud comes out of the moldings when you drive away), sound system good (but others here want more), cargo blind needs re-thinking, fog lights great, headlights at night fantastic, dash illumination at night is beautiful (needles go from orange to red when illuminated (TS Model)), sound system volume changes automatically (depending on speed traveling (TS and Ghia only I think)), child seat easy to fit in all three back seat positions, side curtain airbags there (TS and GHIA (hope I don't have to test them)), spare tyre comes out underneath at the rear, subwoofer on TS and Ghia at the right rear, sunglasses fit in the top compartment (although needs room for two pairs), rubbish bin is removable and washable and fuel efficiency is only as good as the style of driving (but I'm not complaining). As for your second question, don't know as mine is almost ready for its first service, but knowing previous Ford's they are reasonably priced.

ALL IN ALL A FANTASTIC VALUE FOR MONEY VEHICLE AND NOW MY WIFE WANTS ONE TO!


. :nosh:

Mark^^
17-04-05, 09:53 PM
Love the RWD, and couldn't comment on an AWD as I haven't had the need for one yet. The RWD is more fuel efficient, has different tyres, different sump guard, slightly different gear ratios and something to do with drive bias (so I believe and think that is what it is called), decent control doesn't exist, traction control is great, the seats are comfy, power adjustable pedals handy, can tow and accelerate well, has four wheels with a full sized spare, the clock in the TS and GHIA has been contentious (but I like it), cup holders in front don't seem to hold popular drinks but are removable and washable, coin holder is great, pen and card holder not so, transmission with various modes is fantastic, remote central locking and automatic lights a big improvement on older model Ford's, catches bugs well (but cleans off easily), mud spats don't stop the stones from flicking up and bouncing from a trailer onto your good paintwork at the rear, handles magnificently (especially on gravel and bitumen roads, the best yet), brakes are a little under powered at times, transmission cuts back automatically when traveling around 50kph, no cigarette lighter (yeah), three power outlets (although the rear one needs to be tucked around the corner a bit more to prevent breakage when a cord is plugged into it), two way tailgate action is superb, dust collects profusely at the rear (get a dust deflector fitted), wash ability is good (although dust collects again at the rear and mud comes out of the moldings when you drive away), sound system good (but others here want more), cargo blind needs re-thinking, fog lights great, headlights at night fantastic, dash illumination at night is beautiful (needles go from orange to red when illuminated (TS Model)), sound system volume changes automatically (depending on speed traveling (TS and Ghia only I think)), child seat easy to fit in all three back seat positions, side curtain airbags there (TS and GHIA (hope I don't have to test them)), spare tyre comes out underneath at the rear, subwoofer on TS and Ghia at the right rear, sunglasses fit in the top compartment (although needs room for two pairs), rubbish bin is removable and washable and fuel efficiency is only as good as the style of driving (but I'm not complaining). As for your second question, don't know as mine is almost ready for its first service, but knowing previous Ford's they are reasonably priced.

ALL IN ALL A FANTASTIC VALUE FOR MONEY VEHICLE AND NOW MY WIFE WANTS ONE TO!


. :nosh: Every thing he said....cannot think of any better to say. I have a TS RWD aproaching 15000km and no problems. I would have loved a AWD but did not think I would need it, and to this point never have, so if you want a RWD you cannot go wrong.

Mark

new2ford
18-04-05, 08:31 AM
In addition to all the points mentioned above, the 2WD offers that little extra car-like sprightliness (equals fun) when driving. It is all you need for most driving. AWD will offer you that extra margin in adverse conditions - muddy tracks etc. If you don't see yourself doing much of this 2WD will provide all you need. We've found it fine (including bush tracks).

The Taipan
18-04-05, 08:46 AM
I had quite a few different Territories to test-drive pre-release. (5 of varying configurations). The AWD's definitely have a lighter feel (less feedback) through the wheel, and has a few extra gadgets in SC. Contrary to someone's earlier post, the hill descent is not standard on the AWD - so will cost you extra.

After some long deliberation we chose the 2WD. The biggest reason is that both have the same ground clearance and the few circumstances that you could possibly need AWD are not likely to affect my regular driving. The $4K could be spent on a bush basher to get REAL DIRTY, if that so tickled my fancy... but better handling, lower fuel and service costs, tyre costs etc... made the decision between the two very easy...

Advice? Drive both - you can feel the difference, think about what you have to live with day to day. On-road performance was a higher priority for me and most of the above, but your needs may be different.

BTW I have taken the 2WD Terri on gravel and even a state forest trail and it was very easy - but any 2WD with reasonable ground clearance would have done the same.

paulvdb
18-04-05, 09:50 AM
The Mrs. REALLY wants a Territory, even went out and got herself a job with more hours too...now thats motivation..anyway, I was looking more at the 2wd rather than the AWD, mainly becasue the liklihood of it ever going off road is almost nil. If we had the AWD then we would be more likely to use it because it was there - but if we dont, having never had a AWD/4WD, then we wouldnt miss it. Are all the 2WD owners out there happy, or would I be better off springing for the AWD anyway. Is there a big difference in fuel consumption and maintenance costs?
I seem to be seeing more posts about issue with AWD system re clunks and funny issues with the transfer case. The RWD is fairl close to the Falcon system so it's pretty well known - maintenance should be a doddle.

My RWD uses more fuel than a sedan but is also more useful - it's a trade-off. I'd personally rather pay for the xtra space and usability over a sedan so fuel usage is a non-issue.

I prefer the feel of the RWD over the AWD. Going into a RWD Terri after a FWD sedan the awesome steering is the first thing that grabs you. Re brakes - I'm happy with my brake performance.

CSV Strada SiR
18-04-05, 11:38 AM
Test drove both types and the 2wd definatly had a better throttle response. Car is nearly 2 weeks old done 600km at an average of 13.3L/100km so I'm expecting 10's on a long country trip and 13's around town when its run in. Wifey loves it and the Ghia is certainly comfy and I'm glad we have the rear parking sensors.

johnydep
18-04-05, 01:45 PM
For me there was only one answer, AWD.

I wanted to have the capability to drive onto beaches that a two wheel drive could not, I also wanted maximum safety for my family and the Dynamic Stability Control was perfect. http://www.mucda.mb.ca/Stability.htm

This is a modified quote from another forum;
AWD = Improved safety, sure footed, brilliant in slippery conditions, off road capabilities if you want to go.
RWD = More affordable, cheaper to maintain & run, more responsive and car like handling.

http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=8133&vf=1

Raptor
18-04-05, 01:57 PM
I also went AWD as I was after the DSC and the option to explore mild tracks, beaches and get some places a 2wd wouldn't confidently take me. Not that I expect to use it too much.

Test drive and choose what you need/want - you can't really go wrong with either.

Now at 17 thou kms and long term avg. fuel consumption 13.7l/100kms

Cheech
18-04-05, 05:05 PM
Horses for courses.

If you don't plan to go soft roading or to the snow in heart of winter, then save the $4000, take the missus on a holiday !

I purchased an AWD but have only been soft roading once - so haven't justified the extra expense yet. But will be making quite a few pilgramages
to the snow this year where I think I'll get my moneys worth.

TerritoryLover
18-04-05, 09:22 PM
Excellent summary Grahill - I hope someone from Ford reads this.

sound system volume changes automatically (depending on speed traveling (TS and Ghia only I think)). :nosh:

Is that true? I haven't noticed it (I have a TS). Will have to listen more carefully.

Territory
18-04-05, 09:38 PM
[QUOTE=TerritoryLover]Excellent summary Grahill - I hope someone from Ford reads this.
No need to hope! :wink_2:

Mechan1k
27-04-05, 06:32 PM
I purchased the AWD ... as I tow horse floats all the time ... and I wanted the DSC as well ... in very slippery conditions the car handled as if it was in the dry ... didn't slip at all ... the ETC light flashed a bit though ... hee hee.

I am moving out to property as well ... and the side driveway is dirt on a hill ... and when it gets wet it gets a bit sloppy ... add towing a float as well ... I will be needing the traction.

Used to tow with a RWD V6 Rodeo ... and used to wheelspin when towing in the wet ... and loose undulating dirt conditions ... abit unnerving.

Brakes have been great in the Territory ... feels like they don't want to work at first ... but you get used to it .... just a little bit of firmer foot pressure ... ad they bite well. Comparing the brakes to other cars I have driven ... and all I can say is they feel VERY SOLID and meaty as well ... no fade as yet ... they have been great.

I bought the TX ... as the entry level model had nearly all the options I wanted ... I just added foglights, cruise, 3rd seats, rear parking sensors (very handy ... can be annoying though ... but handy) and heavy duty towing kit ... and other little bits and pieces (protection kit, waterproof seat covers, fridge ... etc).

I love the car ... the fiancee drives it more than me ... as she lives closer to work.
Fuel is not too bad ... average around 13.3L/100km around town ... down to 11.5 on highway (hardly had much highway use). No need to thrash it either ... it has smooth, effortless power, very quiet at high speeds (hence why I opted for cruise control).

Definitely get good window tint ... there's alot of glass area ... and trying to keep the large cabin cool on a hot day can take a little while ... especially for 3rd row seat passengers.

I think that's about all ... but all in all ... you can see why it won Wheels COTY :)

AU_Wagin
03-05-05, 10:50 PM
Get both - a His and Hers AWD and RWD :))

johnydep
03-05-05, 11:45 PM
Get both - a His and Hers AWD and RWD :))

Lucky bastard :wavey:

Give us some details, which do you drive, which do you prefer, etc.

Ouzo
04-05-05, 09:46 AM
As I have a wife who would like her own Terri this is a bad precedent to set!