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Originally Posted by MAV50L
Well call it sick , twisted and morbid all you like but I actually just went down and checked out the scene of the crash.
First thing he may or may not have been driving the car legally. There is still enough time overlap from when the laws come in for someone who was slow advancing to their next stage of their licence to be legally allowed to drive one.
Second by the looks of it he didnt actually hit the pole all that hard. There is no skid marks on the road leading to the impact site , no yellow paint on the road from where the accident investigation have done their thing. The pole is approximately 150mm from the gutter right next to the 3rd lane from the highway. If you are not careful in a truck you can actually clip your mirrors on the poles on the way past so it would take stuff all the actually hit one head on as the driver did. The poles are so close to the road as they were put in when the original 2 lane highway was there and over the years the highway has been widened bringing it close to the poles , unfortunately there is no room due to the houses behind to move the poles back further.
The pole has not been damaged or replaced. It has actually even moved very little in the ground. From working with power poles in my job I know it doesnt take much of an impact to move a pole , especially with all the wet weather in the area over the weekend.
Where it happened the road is not in the greatest condition and yes in very heavy rain water does back up over the lanes. We have had very heavy rain in the last couple of days. It was pouring at the time of the accident.
It may have just been a accident.
The legal speed limit on the stretch of road concerned is 80km/h.
The driver may have actually been doing the speed limit (which would be a mistake in the conditions but is perfectly legal) and hit water banked up on the road and aquaplaned. The pole is right on the gutter and their is nowhere else to go with trees etc there.
More will obviously be known once the investigations have been carried out but from the looks of it , I would actually doubt they were going that fast , after looking atthe damage in the area and from knowing the area since I was a kid (my grandparents lived 5 minutes from where it happened) and knowing that the water does indeed bank up , it could well have just been a tragic accident , that a 40 years old family man coming home from work in his Tarago could of just as easily had.
More will obviously come out about it once the investigations are done but it may not be time to burn people at the stake yet..............
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Some good points there but one problem, you do not pull 3 dead out of a modern large car that has "not hit the pole that hard". Do not let marks on a pole or amount it moved fool you, I have been to cars torn in two and the pole still standing. Thats not experience making the pole either.