thats why the few holden guys on this forum are more than welcome. we can have mature discussion with them, so i'm more than happy for them to be here...and on meets etc.
this guy is 1 of the "other" holden supporters though, who doesnt really know to much, and isnt a "car enthusiast" like the rest of us.
in the end, i wanted to know this stuff more for myself, just to have the facts
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