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Old 07-01-2021, 06:10 PM   #11
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Default Re: vFacts December 2020 and the end of year summary

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Mate you are making assumptions just like many others that don't stack up against current facts.
Happy for you to correct me where i am wrong. I said hybrids not full BEV.
Euro 6D TEMP and 6D standards in right now and are causing the OEMs some headaches. EURO7 is in draft mode now.
In a nutshell it is going to be very difficult to pass emissions on pure gasoline/petrol cars alone.
https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice...ions-standards
https://www.caradvice.com.au/882922/...y-2030-report/


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Due to Covid looking at the past total 2019 car sales of just Toyota, VW, Hyundai, GM and Ford they sold 42.1 million cars in 2019 and including all the remaining car manufacturers this figure would probably be over 50 million even after deducting their EV's. Google also says the total global 2019 EV sales only topped 2.2m in 2019.

Mate, no offence but your assumption is so far off the mark it's basically comedy. Do you honestly think these major car manufacturers are going to decide to go broke by just making EV's in 5-10 years time. That will be Musk's swan song.
I am not clear of the assumption i made. EVs are coming and when manufacturers are spending lots of $$ in R&D to develop them then you need to take it seriously. Ford spent billions developing their electric Mustang and have established a partnership with Rivian for future projects.
Volvo is going all electric - "Every new Volvo car launched from 2019 onwards will have an electric motor." "Over the next five years, we will launch a fully electric car every year as we aim to make all-electric cars 50 per cent of global sales by 2025, with the rest hybrids."

Not forgetting all the countries phasing out petrol cars over the next 20 - 30 years.
https://carpart.com.au/blog/car-part...-leads-in-2025
With that coming (and the looming Euro7), it would be very hard for OEM's to justify too many more non hybrid based vehicles.

FYI Norway just had over 50% of their new cars sold as BEV - https://europe.autonews.com/automake...4-market-share

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There are a host of worldwide EV projections on the net made by both sides of the fence and those in between and they all reflect that ICE will be with us for some time to come, eg some are saying EV's MAY represent 50% of all vehicles sold by 2050. It is also not inconceivable that EV's may also be old news by then.

As I've previously said that will suit me as I will probably be dead but having driven my ICE until then.
You are free to enjoy your ICE, but their days as new cars are numbered, esp non Hybrid, PHEV will extend the life of the ICE. If OEMs won't continue investing in them then you're pretty much limited. Australia has very little say in cars worldwide now.
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