[kypez]

Originally Posted by castellan

It was a loose dirt marble type of road mate, ABS is hopeless on loose dirt roads as such.

As for the DSC, I wanted the car to turn to be at 90 degrees to the road, as it stops you faster that way, but you do have to go left then right type of trick, so as to control the cars slide.

I take it you don't rally drive.

I take it you haven't rally driven a modern car with DSC/ABS calibrated for gravel. Falcon systems are fantastic on gravel.