The Fanology debate - electro superchargers HOAX - Page 4

Sourbastard · 30-03-2005, 10:28 AM

Its a supercharger, its a cooler, its a snack with flavour, its a religious icon that spins at 24,500rpm, its a bloody transformer! I call it BullshiTron.

Now, imagine this, its a cold morning and the birds are frozen to the fence, and your wife is arguing with you over your purchase of an $80 fan instead of food this week. You get angry and storm out and climb into your ute.

You start the engine, and a few things happen.

1st the depleted uranium battery in the back of the ute, farts into life and delivers voltage to your 24,500rpm wheel of fortune that you have jammed into your intake.

It whirrs with strength as it fills the manfold with air, then starts to fart as it realizes that due to laws of fluid dynamics that it cannot push any more air into the volume, and it starts to bleed backwards past it. Congratulations! You have achieved peak output for this device at idle

But it also cools as well as pushes, so lets explore that as well. Due to the laws of thermal dynamics, a fan CAN NOT and DOES NOT cool air.

We feel cool in front of a fan because the moving air removes our body heat and evaporate the moisture on our skin at the same time. (Evaporation of water is an endothermic process.) So your fan takes heat from point A, and moves it quickly to Point B inside the airflow, just like the engine would anyway without the aid of the spinning holy icon of high speed "fanology". So theres three ways of doing things, The Right Way, The Wrong Way, and the Mont106 Way, which is the wrong way, just quicker!

So what exactly does this fan do again? Ah yes thats right, we are "densing" the air. Well dense seems about right, dense does have a part to play in this thread. There is a denseness in the area.

Now lets get back to the point, You pull out into the street, and find a long piece of quiet country road in which to break the record for single most stupid high speed event. You then gun the car to 178kph. The fan quickly finds it cannot keep up with the engine vacuum, and begins to be pulled by the engine vacuum instead of pushing air into the manifold, creating drag, drag = restriction. Your wire mesh "safety" Screen which you said is non restrictive? Guess what?? Its restrictive! Yay! Wanna know why? Cause anything that sits inside the air intake that takes up volume and does nothing but impede flow, is called...a... restriction!

Long story short, you obviously missed the tree, and raced home to tell us all about your electric asscharger. Your wife still thinks you are a git, and the kids look at you as if you just received a heavy blow to the head.

Casper · 30-03-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sourbastard

to your 24,500rpm wheel of fortune that you have jammed into your intake..

bwahahahahahahahaha

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This is now its own thread....it deserves that at least.

stockstandard · 30-03-2005, 01:27 PM

HAHA - this is all to much

I could sit here and type all day as to why this wont/doesnt really work, but it has all been said.

MRJUCY · 30-03-2005, 02:34 PM

I've been reading this a work trying to not burst out laughing surely this has to be a gee up 110mph is actually enough for 11s in a car half setup for drag racing driven by somone experienced.

If it's not a joke & you truely have no idea I'm sorry & I'll make the simplest explanation I can. Ok seeing as the speed of the car at 60km/h cools my cars radiator coolant more then the 2 12 inch thermo fans can would prove that mearly driving your car would have more effect then any fan you could ever fit on a car.

SpasticBus · 30-03-2005, 03:13 PM

wow. a fan that can drop ambient temperature by 7 degrees. I need one of these for my overclocked PC

TheSneakiness · 30-03-2005, 03:53 PM

Wow, what reading. What was the point of the thread?

EA2BA · 30-03-2005, 04:19 PM

OK - I read all that, I still dont see clear proof how a little fan can force more air into an engine then it can handle, maybe you should hook a boost gauage up !

EA2BA · 30-03-2005, 04:21 PM

I think this might help as well :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....537830930&rd=1

oh dear :(

RG · 30-03-2005, 04:26 PM

I'm gonna buy one of those super wonder do everything dohickeys. I reckon that'll also give me an extra 20 rwkw easy

stockstandard · 30-03-2005, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

if someone told me chewing gum in my intake gave me more ,I would try it.

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Originally Posted by Dellboy999

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....537830930&rd=1

***Useless opens is check book***

Sorry mate, couldnt help myself

V8 Ghia · 30-03-2005, 04:33 PM

Wow $80 dollars and my car will do a 12 second 1/4 mile

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dansedgli · 30-03-2005, 04:33 PM

Dammit! I spent 100 times that and only ran a 13 :(

RG · 30-03-2005, 04:40 PM

I'm starting to think that a section just for dodgy car stuff on e-bay and the likes would be a good idea. Not only for us to laugh at but so the less informed of us don't get sucked in and waste money. What do you guys reckon/?

neb · 30-03-2005, 04:57 PM

sounds like a pretty good idea

**Uncle_Ken** · 30-03-2005, 06:59 PM

I agree. And maybe a short why its dodgy in the first place.

Psycho Chicken · 30-03-2005, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mont106

The unit acts as a air cooler, it denses the air.

We all know that compressing air will create hot air.

Am I the only one having issues getting my head around these two comments? You're saying it 'denses' the air, which is mildly compressing it and cooling it at the same time, yet you also state a well known law of physics, that compressing air warms it up.

Oh don't laugh Dellboy, I found one of those in the boot of a loan car at work! I'd test it but I have no way of comparing fuel consumption.

RED_EL_XR8 · 30-03-2005, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

Am I the only one having issues getting my head around these two comments? .

Um nope, you are one of a growing multitude of disbelievers. Red hands you a thinking square..

Velociraptor · 30-03-2005, 09:18 PM

mont106 Am I a bloody square head cause I think inside a little square? I should be a little bloody square head! no horsey staff, could you please be a little less technical to help clearify my denses? you are good value mont106, this thread has been a great laugh although Im starting to suspect you are one of the guys having a bit of fun, shirley you cant be serious?

Psycho Chicken · 30-03-2005, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

Um nope, you are one of a growing multitude of disbelievers. Red hands you a thinking square..

Disbeliever? Of course not.

By the way guys, I won't be online much longer, my power supply is getting rather warm now that I've bolted the fan in between my TB and intake manifold.

Casper · 30-03-2005, 10:48 PM

maybe we are all wrong, maybe it works.
I'm sure if its big enough it would. Something like this maybe?

30-03-2005, 10:51 PM

: What do you know!, I cannot believe the attention this thread is creating. Stay tune for mont106 178kmh blast, was it 400m, 420m, 500, maybe it was 1km. More fiction story telling coming your way soon.

the events depicted in this story is not based on actual events, it is merely aimed at entertaining and drawing attention away from chip talk, exhurst notes{hot air}.

Disclaimer
Please do not try this at home. The picture you see is a mock up put togeather for your enjoyment. the hole you see infront of airbox was the only thing that went back in the car. do not try and place a fan in your intake then go out an attempt a land speed record. cause it never did happen. It was purely fictional. Its for your entertainment only.

My mates gonna have a good laugh over a beer when they see this...LOL

RED_EL_XR8 · 30-03-2005, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mont106

My mates gonna have a good laugh over a beer when they see this...LOL

Yeah I'm sure they will! Um! Who do you think they will be laughing at?

dansedgli · 30-03-2005, 10:57 PM

What friends?

Casper · 30-03-2005, 11:03 PM

Disclaimer:
Its going to be hard to tell stories if your banned.
Remember, people use this site as an ideas ground and MANY people with minimal knowledge of cars use it to learn. If what you "teach" is blatently wrong and causes damage to their cars I will have no second thoughts about stopping it from happening again.

dansedgli · 30-03-2005, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Disclaimer:
Its going to be hard to tell stories if your banned.
Remember, people use this site as an ideas ground and MANY people with minimal knowledge of cars use it to learn. If what you "teach" is blatently wrong and causes damage to their cars I will have no second thoughts about stopping it from happening again.

less talk more ban!

30-03-2005, 11:09 PM

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30-03-2005, 11:16 PM

[QUOTE=Casper]Disclaimer:
Remember, people use this site as an ideas ground and MANY people with minimal knowledge of cars use it to learn.

You said it Caspa.... I apologise for that.

I'm one of those guys too.

Sorry every one.

Damo · 30-03-2005, 11:22 PM

i thinks it funny how much time some of you guys wasted writing out those replys. That was a great read.

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RED_EL_XR8 · 30-03-2005, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Damo

i thinks it funny how much time some of you guys wasted writing out those replys. That was a great read.

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No waste of time, in fact its kinda fun, should see all the dirt google reveals on some of the other e-bay fraudsters...

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30-03-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

No waste of time, in fact its kinda fun, should see all the dirt google reveals on some of the other e-bay fraudsters...

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Pass the word around... the darm thing will most probably work on a 50cc motor.

Sorry for stirring a things up.