Any VF performance figures out there yet?

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Originally Posted by gcg2503

The mindset of some on here is pure comedy

Would own one in a heartbeat.

At least HSV invest in wheels that actually look good....

interior also spanks the FG.

Your mindset is comedy to me! You own a Landau......but you would have a HSV......pagan...dont talk to me. Seriously tho.....why wouldn't a new interior be better then a 3 yr old one......this thread is looking for fast vf times(facts).....not opinions.
And what was with the GTS only managing a 12.6 in that vid against the E63. The guy was saying they both would run better times in better conditions......what isn't that cool morning on a rubbered drags trip on a dry day not good enough......in a car with massive tyres.....launch control and what appeared to be near perfect traction. I hear 5% tyre slip gives the best acceleration/grip.
I found it interesting the comments were full off Holden guys saying why would you pay extra when you can have near the same performance much cheaper......UM isnt that what we ford guys always say about xr6t/GTs/F6s v GTSs. Yet it's ok for them when they have the cheaper car all of a suddenget ya head around that one

[Chopped]

Mods please close this thread

It's messing with my sanity

[obd]

Originally Posted by Chopped

Agreed, It's makes a Ssanyong look good. Definitely designed by hitting that modelling clay with an ugly stick.
GTS stands for Gee That's S*#t
Most Holdung drivers only have a few teeth, a mullet and one thong but because the crummykillerdore is so ugly it will make the drivers look good.

Wow that is pot calling the kettle black !!!

[Sorted]

Originally Posted by Chopped

How many acceleration times have been published from the media about the
GT RSpec ? (It's been out a lot longer so there should be heaps)

If the Media Tested the FG FPV GT Rspec as much as they have tested the VF HSV GTS I am sure the times would be faster

Drive have tested the VF HSV GTS 4 or 5 times now
They tested the FG FPV GT Rspec ZERO times - they did put story's up but used Wheel's Test Data

Wheels Tested the VF HSV GTS and they got slower times than Drive
So if Drive actually did test the FG FPV GT Rspec you would have to assume that they would have been able to get faster times

[Chopped]

Edit :

Some of you guys need to edit the Wiki page for the R Spec
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FPV_GT_R-spec

"Performance

1/4 mile 12.64 @ 189 km/h
100 km/h in 4.52 seconds[5]

These times better those set by the rival HSV W427 in 2008,[8] then at the time Australia’s quickest production car."


That sounds way to "slow", let's assume a 11.9 for the quarter and say a flat 4 to 100.

Then we can all feel better that the R Spec is still the fastest.

[Sorted]

I didn't say the FG FPV GT Rspec will be faster than a VF HSV GTS

It shouldn't as it has less power, less cubes, less torque...........

[jasen]

GTS doing a 12.18
0-100 in 4.3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uI-lMwxr7k

[PepeLePew]

I don't know how many others derive amusement at 16 pages of grown men nitpicking over which 12 second factory car is faster by a poofteenth of a second. Seriously, wouldn't you have either in your driveway? Wasn't that long ago a 14 second car was a factory rocket. Whip out the cheque book and climb into the car of your choice, and care less about what everybody else does

[Sorted]

I see it as Passion for the Ford Brand

And a "poofteenth of a second" is how Ford won Bathurst 2013

[PepeLePew]

I do confess, I have a passion for fast cars I can afford. I do not line up at the grid at Bathurst. GTS is ruled out for me by my budget. I can barely afford to get into the FPV camp. But I don't allow my lifetime bias for Ford to dictate my thoughts on the GTS, I don't automatically assume it's inferiority because it wears a different badge. It's an achievement in it's own right and should be recognized as such. And if times were normal it'd be the stimulus for FPV to raise the bar again next year.

For the record, I don't like the look of it, but I respect what it is. And as a 'almost' Miami owner it's existence makes no difference to my satisfaction in my new purchase (if its ever bloody delivered!)

(i will add here if anyone takes my comment personally it was very much tongue in cheek, if the thread was 5 pages long and wasn't going around in circles i'd never have posted it!)

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by Sorted

If the Media Tested the FG FPV GT Rspec as much as they have tested the VF HSV GTS I am sure the times would be faster

Drive have tested the VF HSV GTS 4 or 5 times now
They tested the FG FPV GT Rspec ZERO times - they did put story's up but used Wheel's Test Data

Wheels Tested the VF HSV GTS and they got slower times than Drive
So if Drive actually did test the FG FPV GT Rspec you would have to assume that they would have been able to get faster times

Who knows, Toby Hagon at Drive is well known to love all things Holden.
I agree with your point about more thorough testing of the R Spec...perhaps if Ford had of taken a more proactive approach to making a vehicle available to the media on more frequent occassions we'd have some more emperical evidence.

As it is, they're so close its a case of would you like your rampaging Australian muscle car with or without, (much cheaper), a helping of the latest technology ?

[rancidpunx]

Having now driven a GTS I can assure you all that at street speeds it is no faster than an RSpec if anything slightly slower in Manual form. You can feel the extra power when the car is moving but you can also feel the extra weight. Whilst it is very quick I would be confident if one pulled up next to me at a set of lights as it not until license losing speeds that the extra power becomes apparent. You can feel the extra horses though, I liked it.

[Chopped]

Originally Posted by Sorted

I didn't say the FG FPV GT Rspec will be faster than a VF HSV GTS

It shouldn't as it has less power, less cubes, less torque...........

Yes you did >

Originally Posted by Sorted

So there we have it

FPV GT Rspec 335kw IS faster than a HSV GTS 430kw

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by rancidpunx

Having now driven a GTS I can assure you all that at street speeds it is no faster than an RSpec if anything slightly slower in Manual form. You can feel the extra power when the car is moving but you can also feel the extra weight. Whilst it is very quick I would be confident if one pulled up next to me at a set of lights as it not until license losing speeds that the extra power becomes apparent. You can feel the extra horses though, I liked it.

Thanks. What did you think of the seats and interior comfort and all the suspension tech ? Handling ? Bose stereo system ? Heads up display ?
I'm sure many would appreciate a good thorough write-up of all your initial impressions after all there are very few people in your fortunate position to have access to both cars...

[rancidpunx]

Originally Posted by Rodge

Thanks. What did you think of the seats and interior comfort and all the suspension tech ? Handling ? Bose stereo system ? Heads up display ?
I'm sure many would appreciate a good thorough write-up of all your initial impressions after all there are very few people in your fortunate position to have access to both cars...

I will do a bit of a review in the 5.0 section mate. Probably a bit later.

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Originally Posted by Chopped

Yes you did >

LOL bugger so I did - that is GOLD - thank you

[BHDOGS]

Gts sucks is the slowest and ugliest most powerful Australian car ever

[FoxParts]

the VF is ugly an looks like its got a toyota camary dash in it not my style of car

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

Gts sucks is the slowest and ugliest most powerful Australian car ever

Are you mentally challenged or are all your posts that repetitive and pointless?

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

Gts sucks is the slowest and ugliest most powerful Australian car ever

is GTS like a anagram for TGS??? The Gts Sucks

[BHDOGS]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Are you mentally challenged or are all your posts that repetitive and pointless?

If i was mentally challenged would that make you feel better or worse about insulting someone like a ****wit?

[Chopped]

http://youtu.be/lTDap90x6GI

Production process

[Blue Roo]

Originally Posted by wildrider

is GTS like a anagram for TGS??? The Gts Sucks

How about HSV - Heap of **** Vehicle, GTS - GuaranTee *******.

[Blue Roo]

Originally Posted by Blue Roo

How about HSV - Heap of **** Vehicle, GTS - GuaranTee *******.

Argh!!! Censored Again.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

If i was mentally challenged would that make you feel better or worse about insulting someone like a ****wit?

Thank you for validating it

[40RDT]

Apparently Active Automotives GTS ran a 10.95 today

[shaness8]

The GTS would run rings around the GT R spec on the track and what was FPV thinking putting stickers on $75000 car makes it looks like a cheap mock up from Footscray.

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Originally Posted by shaness8

The GTS would run rings around the GT R spec on the track and what was FPV thinking putting stickers on $75000 car makes it looks like a cheap mock up from Footscray.

see....now that would be good to see....but they don't seem to want to show n share all the details from months of testing and driving
And that's your opinion about the stripes.....I love them......plenty of faster more expensive cars in the world with stickers on them pal.....porshes...bugattis....reneults....mustangs .....dodge vipers....even seen quite a few SS and HSVs with AFTERMARKET stripes, so go figure.
And thanks to those posting times and first hand info about the VFs...the rest of you **** off if your not interested and don't ruin it for everyone else.
Why close the thread????? There are still times coming in...and comparos to be done.

[BHDOGS]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Thank you for validating it

Validating that your a ****wit? No worrys as for your insult of mentally challenged people that just makes you a scumbag.

[Chopped]

Originally Posted by obd

Wow that is pot calling the kettle black !!!

It's sarcasm mate, I was just channeling my inner BHDOGS.

I initially didn't like it but the VF styling is growing on me. Seen a few on the road and they look better in real life than in the pics IMO.