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Old 01-10-2009, 10:16 PM   #31
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I wonder how many weeks it will be before Holden resurrect the "Vacationer" pack :

They've specials and limited editions every couple of months. Must do wonders for resale value.
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Old 01-10-2009, 10:53 PM   #32
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LOL... anyway

Not a fan of the snouts myself, a bit over the top but then I guess compared to the new E2 HSV's, not that over the top !
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:07 PM   #33
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that may explain the few prototypes i've kicking around here in melb, then again not, since they where left hand drive. thought holden destroyed all of them after it was launched or that was what i was told by an insider. i reckon they look better than the standard ss, it still looks like a pontiac to me though.
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:07 PM   #34
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News just to hand: "Holden will be making a series 2 special edition as spare bumpers and grills manufactured for the Ssangyong Stavic will be seemlessly grafted onto the front of all commodores as a way to clear the rising stockpile of more useless crap."
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Apart from the HSV/GTO vented bonnet, I actually prefer the good looks of the regular SSV, but at least they have done something new to mix things up. Clearly this is a response to the FPV GS which I think I still prefer personally.

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Old 01-10-2009, 11:16 PM   #36
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i'm a bit old fashion, i prefer the vents to be left on two door cars
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:18 PM   #37
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Holden's response to the G6 Limited Edition. Can't believe they're bringing out a Special Edition on the launch of a new model.

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Holden Commodore Special Edition International Sedan and Sportwagon

Alongside the Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition GM Holden has also announced the special edition Commodore International for completely different buyers.

The International sedan and Sportwagon models will deliver $7,500 of extra features (given the RRP of extra features) such as leather seat trim and 18 inch alloy wheels.

“The International edition is even better value when you combine extra features with the advanced 3.0 litre direct injection engine and 6-speed automatic transmission.” Holden Director of Marketing Philip Brook said

Using Holden’s all new 3.0 litre Spark Ignition Direct Injection V6 engine and six-speed automatic transmission, the Commodore International will gain all the features of the Omega plus:

■18 inch alloy wheels (4)
■Berlina front grille
■Leather appointed seat trim
■Leather wrapped steering wheel
■Bluetooth for compatible mobile phones
■International badge
■Chrome decklid eyebrow moulding (sedan only)
■Rear Park Assist (sedan only as already standard on all Sportwagon models)
The new Commodores will go on sale from November with a driveaway price of $35,990 for the VE Commodore International Sedan (auto) and $37,990 for the VE Commodore International Sportwagon (auto). Metallic paint will set you back another $500.

LPG fans are unfortunately only able to pick the 3.6 litre dual fuel LPG Alloytec V6 engine in Commodore International sedan guise mated to a four-speed automatic transmission.

No photos of the new Commodore International are currently available, we’ve used a previous image which is almost accurate but is missing the SIDI badge. CarAdvice will update once photos come through.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:29 AM   #38
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Where are all da fully bruvvas going to put their Chevy badges to make it go faster?
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:04 AM   #39
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I think the G8 nose looks 1000% better than the standard VE one. Its unfortunate they didnt bother integrating the Holden badge into it (perhaps it was too difficult design wise, not just the cost of a new badge)
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:12 AM   #40
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Where are all da fully bruvvas going to put their Chevy badges to make it go faster?
LOL..I dont think fit and finish is a high priority for GM owners. Theres a guy across the road from me with a red VX S (not SS) with Chev badges....... :
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:16 AM   #41
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Come on....

The Pontiac/Commodore...
Gotta be better looking than this monster???

Check It out!!

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Old 02-10-2009, 02:45 PM   #42
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that front end looks like a busted A$$
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Old 02-10-2009, 02:54 PM   #43
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I like the new HSV's.... As much as people dont like grills, vents etc These little things do set the car apart from the lower models SS,SV6,etc

Whereas i reckon every single FG looks the same apart from colour and Racoon eyes... I can bet my bottom dollar that HSV will still outsell FPV/Ford with the release of this new model
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Old 02-10-2009, 03:35 PM   #44
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I think it looks bloody awful!!! Which is great because the more ugly cars they bring out the more people will buy good looking FG's!! Congratulations Holden!!
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I would rather buy one of these G8 look a likes than one of the latest offering from Ford/FPV
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I think the G8 nose looks 1000% better than the standard VE one. Its unfortunate they didnt bother integrating the Holden badge into it (perhaps it was too difficult design wise, not just the cost of a new badge)
I think it would look weird. The grille was designed for the arrow shaped Pontiac badge afterall.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:25 PM   #47
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front end looks great IMO it just doesnt blend with the rest of the car.
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:16 AM   #48
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correct the first import (vauxhall) was a 90* V6. 3.2ltr
all holden's casting are 60* V6.

however all heads are interchangable as per GM product.
Holdens V6 is a GM design, basically the same as used in Cadillac, Buick etc. Holden even get their blocks from Mexico where GM cast them. Holden may assemble them here but they sure as hell don't design them or even have much in the way of differentiation from the GM version.

The Vauxhalls V6 has nothing to do with the GM V6, its an older design.

Fords I6 is ground up designed and built here.

The Boss V8 is pretty much the same as Holdens V6, assembled locally from imported and some locally made parts.
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Holdens V6 is a GM design, basically the same as used in Cadillac, Buick etc. Holden even get their blocks from Mexico where GM cast them. Holden may assemble them here but they sure as hell don't design them or even have much in the way of differentiation from the GM version.

The Vauxhalls V6 has nothing to do with the GM V6, its an older design.

Fords I6 is ground up designed and built here.

The Boss V8 is pretty much the same as Holdens V6, assembled locally from imported and some locally made parts.
Thanks for clearing that up, I knew there was more to it than what was evident at the time
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Holdens V6 is a GM design, basically the same as used in Cadillac, Buick etc. Holden even get their blocks from Mexico where GM cast them. Holden may assemble them here but they sure as hell don't design them or even have much in the way of differentiation from the GM version.

The Vauxhalls V6 has nothing to do with the GM V6, its an older design.

Fords I6 is ground up designed and built here.

The Boss V8 is pretty much the same as Holdens V6, assembled locally from imported and some locally made parts.
as i said they are cast here from go to woah, dont just take my word for it.
http://media.gm.com/aus/holden/en/pr...background.htm
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I like it more than the standard VE.. Hell there is no difference in VE looks wise from 2006 lauch to today... atleast everyone would know it's a new one :P
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As a car enthusiast and a general motorist, i have to say they look awful. Terrible.
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as i said they are cast here from go to woah, dont just take my word for it.
http://media.gm.com/aus/holden/en/pr...background.htm
Notice that nowhere on that page does it say the block and heads are cast here by Holden, it just says that the block and heads are loaded onto the line and machined.

Nice little bit of smoke and mirrors by Holden to leave out the FACT that the block and heads are imported from Mexico, because as we all know the Commodore is made from 100% Australian made parts isn't it? :

Don't feel too bad your wrong mate, Fords I6 cylinder head is cast in Mexico and machined here too.

Holden went into a joint venture with Ion (from memory) to build an aluminium casting facility in Melbourne to make the block and heads, but when Ion went bust the project failed, hence they sourced them from Mexico.

You can't always believe what Holden say, most of the stuff they come out with is total crap designed to feed the bogan masses. Like the Commodore Hybrid thats supposed to be on sale next year. :
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Notice that nowhere on that page does it say the block and heads are cast here by Holden, it just says that the block and heads are loaded onto the line and machined.

Nice little bit of smoke and mirrors by Holden to leave out the FACT that the block and heads are imported from Mexico, because as we all know the Commodore is made from 100% Australian made parts isn't it? :

Don't feel too bad your wrong mate, Fords I6 cylinder head is cast in Mexico and machined here too.

Holden went into a joint venture with Ion (from memory) to build an aluminium casting facility in Melbourne to make the block and heads, but when Ion went bust the project failed, hence they sourced them from Mexico.

You can't always believe what Holden say, most of the stuff they come out with is total crap designed to feed the bogan masses. Like the Commodore Hybrid thats supposed to be on sale next year. :
when 25 tonnes of billet goes their i suppose they make candy
aswell imorrt casting sand with the block
An aluminium precision-cast block, with iron liners inside it, is manually loaded on to the line
The block casting, which weighs 38kg, undergoes primary machining
Intermediate washing cleans the block and casting cavities are checked for leaks
Bearing caps are assembled before the block undergoes final machining to prepare it for the assembly line
Another high-temperature wash is performed to clean the block before cavity plugs are assembled
The block has a final inspection before it moves to the assembly line
A block takes about three hours to go through the block line and weighs 32kg when it comes out, 6kg lighter than when it was loaded
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Check It out!!

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Thats a bit hard on a storm trooper :(
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when 25 tonnes of billet goes their i suppose they make candy
aswell imorrt casting sand with the block
An aluminium precision-cast block, with iron liners inside it, is manually loaded on to the line
The block casting, which weighs 38kg, undergoes primary machining
Intermediate washing cleans the block and casting cavities are checked for leaks
Bearing caps are assembled before the block undergoes final machining to prepare it for the assembly line
Another high-temperature wash is performed to clean the block before cavity plugs are assembled
The block has a final inspection before it moves to the assembly line
A block takes about three hours to go through the block line and weighs 32kg when it comes out, 6kg lighter than when it was loaded
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Once again, where does it say they cast the block. It doesn't, because they don't do it. Machining it is not casting it.

It specifically says the block is loaded onto the block line. Where does the block come from.

I'll tell you, it comes out of a crate from Mexico.

Billet can be used for lots of things, such as suspension arms, engine cradles, rocker covers, timing covers etc.
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mexico does not export!!

http://epanote2.epa.vic.gov.au/EPA/Publications.nsf/d85500a0d7f5f07b4a2565d1002268f3/75e267597ccf398fca2572f1000c6b89/$FILE/1158.pdf
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K. St. Catherines, Ontario (McKinnon Industries Canada)

M. Mexico city

VF. Flint Michigan (Crate)

F. Flint Michigan

V. Flint Michigan

S. Saginaw Michigan

T. Tonawanda New York

p. Spring Hill Tenessee

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mexico does not export!!

http://epanote2.epa.vic.gov.au/EPA/Publications.nsf/d85500a0d7f5f07b4a2565d1002268f3/75e267597ccf398fca2572f1000c6b89/$FILE/1158.pdf
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K. St. Catherines, Ontario (McKinnon Industries Canada)

M. Mexico city

VF. Flint Michigan (Crate)

F. Flint Michigan

V. Flint Michigan

S. Saginaw Michigan

T. Tonawanda New York

p. Spring Hill Tenessee

HF. Fisherman's Bend Port Melbourn (Crate)
Obviously they don't export crate engines, they just cast the block and heads. Thats if GM even do it, Ford uses an outside supplier from Mexico for their cylinder head and its possible Holden do the same.

Why can't you just accept that Holden do not cast their own blocks.
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its clear you didnt check the E.P.A. link !!
why cant you accept that they do??
and a sydney company cast for ford, holden, toyota. (all ancillaries)

lest just say mid november york linning will be converting line 14~26 (family II) when it finnishes on the ninteenth of this month.
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its clear you didnt check the E.P.A. link !!
why cant you accept that they do??
and a sydney company cast for ford, holden, toyota. (all ancillaries)

lest just say mid november york linning will be converting line 14~26 (family II) when it finnishes on the ninteenth of this month.
Bit hard when your link doesn't work.
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