2018 Ranger Raptor - Page 3

chevypower · 11-09-2017, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

I wouldn't believe the video for accurate engine sound. Video editors love adding in meaty sounding engines in car videos. Usually a big v8 sound.

I have no faith in Ford. I'm sure they are going to ruin it in some way. Mostly likely by putting a crap engine in it. Probably keeping the wheezing 3.2 diesel.

But hopefully I am proven wrong.

It wasn't a movie, it was the official teaser for the Ranger Raptor. I highly doubt they would put petrol engine spund effects to cover up a diesel.

Nu66et · 10-09-2017, 01:27 PM

I think theyre replacing the 2.2 with a smaller diesel. Maybe the 3.2 will be replaced eventually with the 3l V6 going into F150

CyberWasp · 10-09-2017, 09:42 PM

The 2.7 EcoBoost puts out roughly 242kw @5000rpm and 540nm @2750rpm
The current 3.2 Diesel 147kw @3000rpm & 470nm @ 1750-2500rpm
Certainly will transform the driving experience if they go that way.

Sabantien · 10-09-2017, 11:41 PM

I look at the TRD hilux with a sticker pack and a couple accessories, with no added power.
I look at the Navara N-Sport, as above.

I reckon this will be just another sticker pack with a couple accessories and same old engine.
Would be happy to be wrong!

I'd need a new job that pays a hell of a lot more before I could get anything like it whatever the result.

turbo4 · 11-09-2017, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabantien

I look at the TRD hilux with a sticker pack and a couple accessories, with no added power.
I look at the Navara N-Sport, as above.

I reckon this will be just another sticker pack with a couple accessories and same old engine.
Would be happy to be wrong!

I'd need a new job that pays a hell of a lot more before I could get anything like it whatever the result.

It isn't a sticker pack, the FX4 is a (over priced) sticker pack.
Is the F-150 Raptor a sticker pack? No, among other things, it's got a 450HP ecoboost engine and off-road racing shocks as standard. The Ranger Raptor would have a similar philosophy applied.
It is a Ford Performance product, the branch of Ford that released the Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Focus RS, Mustang GT350 and of course, the 24hr of Le Mans winning GT - none of these are just another "sticker pack"

Nu66et · 11-09-2017, 06:18 AM

The F150 Raptor only now has more power than a normal F150 though. The first gen didnt

**solarite_guy** · 11-09-2017, 07:49 AM

Was the Raptor R ever made available in Australia? Some nick named it VelociRaptor.

It came with 500 hp.

turbo4 · 11-09-2017, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by solarite_guy

Was the Raptor R ever made available in Australia? Some nick named it VelociRaptor.

It came with 500 hp.

The Velociraptor is the Hennessy version, it's got 600hp

**solarite_guy** · 11-09-2017, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by turbo4

The Velociraptor is the Hennessy version, it's got 600hp

That's right. I got that confused.

Nu66et · 11-09-2017, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by solarite_guy

Was the Raptor R ever made available in Australia? Some nick named it VelociRaptor.

It came with 500 hp.

Raptor R was only made for the Baja 1000 AFAIK.

**solarite_guy** · 11-09-2017, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nu66et

Raptor R was only made for the Baja 1000 AFAIK.

I know it ran the Baja, I didn't know if they made available to Australia. I am sure you all have places it could be used too.

barra240t · 11-09-2017, 12:47 PM

6 orders already taken and growing

boss351290 · 11-09-2017, 09:05 PM

A p5 ltd had 4 wheel disc brakes in 1973. And a $70000 dollar Wildtrack has drums in 2017 and again in 2018. Come on. Is it taking that long to catch up.

steve.zissou · 12-09-2017, 07:57 AM

you have to think like a Ford accountant.
1000 dummies will pay 80k for one with the crappie same engine. this equals profit. then release new one with better engine In 2 years and same people will upgrade to that one.
i still can't figure out how you can pay 60k for a jeep grand Cherokee limited with a great diesel engine 8 speed zf box great interior all the bells and whistles and outs pretty durable (mine is a bush car and is in heaps better Nick than my falcon ute was at 150000km). compared to the ranger xlt for the same money there is definitely something amiss

**Giant Cranium** · 12-09-2017, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by steve.zissou

you have to think like a Ford accountant.
1000 dummies will pay 80k for one with the crappie same engine. this equals profit. then release new one with better engine In 2 years and same people will upgrade to that one.
i still can't figure out how you can pay 60k for a jeep grand Cherokee limited with a great diesel engine 8 speed zf box great interior all the bells and whistles and outs pretty durable (mine is a bush car and is in heaps better Nick than my falcon ute was at 150000km). compared to the ranger xlt for the same money there is definitely something amiss

id never buy a cherokee, wouldn't even look at one all because of one small thing... i need a ute

Ben73 · 12-09-2017, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

id never buy a cherokee, wouldn't even look at one all because of one small thing... i need a ute

I think his point is not that you should buy one, the point is that ute's are ridiculously expensive for what you get. I guess they get there price because people see them as a jack of all trades.

Both vehicles in my signature below cost the same brand new. One feels like it's worth twice the amount of the other one.

If I were to buy a ute again I would get a base model second hand one.

roKWiz · 12-09-2017, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

id never buy a cherokee, wouldn't even look at one all because of one small thing... i need a ute

Maybe harsh, Someone educate me please... I've never understood the appeal of these overpriced 4 door ute things. no matter who makes it.
They all claim massive towing ability. 3 ton towing (most ads with half a dozen **** in the small writing below.)
The tray or tub hanging out back behind the rear wheels (centre of gravity) would surely create handling problems when it has any decent load aboard. Let alone one tonne.
Handling wise (unloaded) It must drive like a truck and not have the comfort of a car.
So its not a proper truck or ute really and its not a proper car.

The ones I have driven all feel the same.

**Giant Cranium** · 12-09-2017, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

Maybe harsh, Someone educate me please... I've never understood the appeal of these overpriced 4 door ute things. no matter who makes it.
They all claim massive towing ability. 3 ton towing (most ads with half a dozen **** in the small writing below.)
The tray or tub hanging out back behind the rear wheels (centre of gravity) would surely create handling problems when it has any decent load aboard. Let alone one tonne.
Handling wise (unloaded) It must drive like a truck and not have the comfort of a car.
So its not a proper truck or ute really and its not a proper car.

The ones I have driven all feel the same.

I'm a carpenter, I need a tray back. I need more then two seats. I'd like to tow a trailer of material. Camping and hunting is best done by access of 4wd tracks.

And the simple fact of show me a sedan or wagon that looks better than its ute equivalent

b0son · 12-09-2017, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

Maybe harsh, Someone educate me please... I've never understood the appeal of these overpriced 4 door ute things. no matter who makes it.

Even higher up than most SUVs? Which IIRC was the reason people were getting SUVs over cars. At least, that's what I assume, because I rarely see anything in the back of them.

Mind you, I'd get one if you could fit something 1.4m wide in the back (gokart)... they're all too narrow.

naddis01 · 12-09-2017, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Mind you, I'd get one if you could fit something 1.4m wide in the back (gokart)... they're all too narrow.

Simple solution - Put a tray on the back.

**Fordman1** · 12-09-2017, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by steve.zissou

you have to think like a Ford accountant.
1000 dummies will pay 80k for one with the crappie same engine. this equals profit. then release new one with better engine In 2 years and same people will upgrade to that one.

I don't want to be negative, but I agree.

**Falcon Coupe** · 12-09-2017, 05:03 PM

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...7f53-314879721

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However, what powertrain the flagship Ranger will employ is less clear, with suggestions it could be the F-150 Raptor's 3.5-litre 'EcoBoost' twin-turbocharged V6 petrol engine, which punches out 336kW of power and 690Nm of torque.

If the test mule’s soundtrack is anything to go by, it is likely that petrol propulsion is on the cards for the production Ranger Raptor meaning an uprated version of the mid-size ute's current 147kW/470Nm 3.2-litre five-cylinder diesel unit is unlikely. Either way, Ford assures ''an adrenaline-pumping experience.''

**Fordman1** · 12-09-2017, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...7f53-314879721

It's all media drivel, I would be waiting on Ford to confirm powertrains and I would not assume anything.

Nu66et · 13-09-2017, 08:55 PM

I think youre going to struggle finding something with 1.4m space between the wheel tubs. Take 300mm for each wheel and youre already at 2m width. Most manufacturers wouldnt be worried about more than a 1.2m pallet

FG50T · 16-09-2017, 12:07 PM

Saw the Raptor yesterday afternoon camouflaged storming on a backroad between Melton and Werribee. Looked mean even wrapped up.

jpd80 · 16-09-2017, 05:30 PM

You can see the watts link and disk brakes in this shot...LINK

Good thing Ford doesn't build performance Rangers just to impress cynical non-buyers,
I hope this is everything those buyers have been asking for because that will put Ranger over the top.

**DJM83** · 16-09-2017, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

You can see the watts link and disk brakes in this shot...LINK

Good thing Ford doesn't build performance Rangers just to impress cynical non-buyers,
I hope this is everything those buyers have been asking for because that will put Ranger over the top.

none buyer syndrome, they will always complain. Id love one but it will be well out of my price range.

Nikked · 16-09-2017, 06:49 PM

Whilst its a huge claps of the straw...soon we'll have a performace Ranger and a Ranger racing in a production car class.

The more things change...haha

FlipXW · 17-09-2017, 11:12 AM

Seeing as a wildtrak is already low 60's what do you guys think they'll price this at? Would have to be high 70's you reckon?

nstg8a · 17-09-2017, 01:08 PM

If it's gets its own engine that it could be a lot more expensive you would presume.