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**cs123** · 08-02-2021, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Not too many international flights land at Toowoomba

You've got to then put them on domestic / charter flights and get them to Toowoomba and that's opened up the movement risk again.

At least for QLD they can direct international arrivals into Wellcamp. It's got a 9000ft runway and can land large aircraft. The guy who built it has aspirations to be BNE West, and it looks like a solid business plan for him.

On the way out, Qantas link to Brisbane, Sydney and onto the final destination.

I think it makes sense to do it for QLD. Not sure how quickly they could build it.

**russellw** · 08-02-2021, 01:13 PM

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT February 7th, 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

2 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.151%.

5 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.078% and active cases 66.

The UK had 15,845 cases yesterday and 373 deaths.

Just over 108k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,075 deaths sees CMR up to 1.721%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points: (weekend reporting)
Global cases pass 106M, the last 1M in 2 days;
Europe passes 31M cases.

No countries
... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Bossxr8 · 08-02-2021, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lumen8

What happens when denied entry to or service in places though, if they do indeed push it even for domestic purposes, like how Berejik has been saying.

Seems we dont have much of a choice if they go that way.

But they will still tell you it's not mandatory

But then will probably give you no choice. May as well make it mandatory and spare us from the lie.

oldel · 08-02-2021, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I’m puzzled why staff are not semi-quarantined themselves, to form more manageable “cells”. And further why it’s still OK for some to work multiple jobs.

Yeah, the mind boggles on this.

I see SA have done something that should have been common sense for every other state. Only one hotel used for positive covid cases, and only staffed by SA health and police.
It's a step in the right direction and so bleeding obvious it should be done this way in the very least. No mixing of infected and not infected, no minimum wage security and hospitality staff, no 'any hotel is good enough if they'll have us' approach that our governments are taking too long to learn won't work.

hayseed · 08-02-2021, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Not too many international flights land at Toowoomba

You've got to then put them on domestic / charter flights and get them to Toowoomba and that's opened up the movement risk again.

it is an International (Freight) Airport though..

https://www.wellcamp.com.au/

**Polyal** · 08-02-2021, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

But they will still tell you it's not mandatory

But then will probably give you no choice. May as well make it mandatory and spare us from the lie.

Its not, so the choice is still there.

Just like EV's will be a choice, but one day there may not be any fuel or it will be $5/L.

T3rminator · 08-02-2021, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Its not, so the choice is still there.

Just like EV's will be a choice, but one day there may not be any fuel or it will be $5/L.

Just like health insurance. It's not mandatory that you have one, but if you don't then we'll tax the bejesus out of you.

Bossxr8 · 08-02-2021, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Its not, so the choice is still there.

Just like EV's will be a choice, but one day there may not be any fuel or it will be $5/L.

It's essentially forcing people to have it. So it's not exactly a cut and dry choice.

It's a bit different than the EV analogy.

lumen8 · 08-02-2021, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It's essentially forcing people to have it. So it's not exactly a cut and dry choice.

It's a bit different than the EV analogy.

That is how I see it, you can refuse but you wont be able to do so and so.

Probably wont be able to travel abroad without it, perhaps even move between state borders one day, especially if they call a lockdown/border closure.

Another clip of a journo who says he has been communicating with govt...says govt wants us jabbed ongoing every year....

**FairmontGS** · 08-02-2021, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lumen8

Another clip of a journo who says he has been communicating with govt...says govt wants us jabbed ongoing every year....

I have to get the flu shot every year. No difference I guess (as long as I don't get a Microsoft Chip in me

)?

lumen8 · 08-02-2021, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

I have to get the flu shot every year. No difference I guess (as long as I don't get a Microsoft Chip in me

)?

No you wouldnt want that, everything Microsoft gets viruses, so our chips would get a virus.

Hopefully they will be sensible, and run linux in the chips.

T3rminator · 08-02-2021, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontGS

I have to get the flu shot every year. No difference I guess (as long as I don't get a Microsoft Chip in me

)?

If you listen to Scomo's presser on the vaccine recently, you should have picked up that this will likely be an annual jab, just like the flu shot. Except he was very careful not to use the word "flu", I think he said something like "just like other things".

wodahs · 08-02-2021, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lumen8

Probably wont be able to travel abroad without it, perhaps even move between state borders one day, especially if they call a lockdown/border closure.

Another clip of a journo who says he has been communicating with govt...says govt wants us jabbed ongoing every year....

be interesting if any military refuse it
wouldnt be able to be deployed to action

five 7 · 09-02-2021, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wodahs

be interesting if any military refuse it
wouldnt be able to be deployed to action

Dought you would get much choice in the military, you'd probably end up digging big holes with a tea spoon till you changed your mind.

**Polyal** · 09-02-2021, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It's essentially forcing people to have it. So it's not exactly a cut and dry choice.

It's a bit different than the EV analogy.

Everything is a choice, some are harder than others. You dont have to cav your kids but then you dont get a rebate for care. Choice is there and the Gov (voted by the people) need to introduce policy for the better of the country. What else can they do, as noted before there are other shots and vac's that you need to get to enter some countries so no different really.

In saying that I am in no rush, not doing OS travel this or probably next year so unless work pushes it no need to jump into it.

**buggerlugs** · 09-02-2021, 08:42 AM

One of many that should be shamed.............

https://www.news.com.au/finance/busi...f4d928af058e84

Bossxr8 · 09-02-2021, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

One of many that should be shamed.............

https://www.news.com.au/finance/busi...f4d928af058e84

Didn't they have to show they had lost business before they were eligible for the funds? Or did they lie about it?

**russellw** · 09-02-2021, 02:22 PM

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT February 8th, 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

7 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.150%.

No new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.078% and active cases 66.

The UK had 14,104 cases yesterday and 333 deaths.

Just under 92k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,323 deaths sees CMR down to 1.720%. That's the first day under 100k cases since November 3rd. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points: None

No countries (for the second consecutive day)
... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

**buggerlugs** · 09-02-2021, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Didn't they have to show they had lost business before they were eligible for the funds? Or did they lie about it?

My accountant said it's the biggest rort in Australian history and we will still be paying all this back long after you and I and every other bugger on the forum is gone...........
I've got so many customers that have been flat out thru Covid and still receiving money from the Government..........

**russellw** · 09-02-2021, 07:09 PM

It's been awhile since I drilled down on the USofA. 5 States have now recorded more than 1M cases led by California (3.4M) which took the top spot from Texas (2.5M), Florida 3rd (1.7M), New York up a place in 4th (1.52M) and Illinois down a spot in 5th with 1.1M.

In terms of cases per 100k of population, the order is quite different. North Dakota (12,897) is worst, followed by South Dakota (12,101), Rhode Island (11,277), Utah (10,819) and Tennessee (10,812).

In terms of deaths per 100k of population, New Jersey (246) is the worst State followed by New York (232), Massachusetts (215) Rhode Island (211) and Mississippi (209). The National average currently stands at 143.91/100k (that's 0.14% for the mathematically challenged).

At the other end of the survivability scale (ignoring the non mainland States) Vermont (29/100k) leads the way, followed by Oregon (47), Utah (52), Washington (58) and Virginia (79).

Vermont (2,077), Maine (3,077) and Oregon (3,427) have the lowest case rates per 100k of population - the National average is 8,367.

Obviously New Jersey has the worst CMR (3.04%) while the National average is 1.72%.

wodahs · 09-02-2021, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

I've got so many customers that have been flat out thru Covid and still receiving money from the Government..........

ive been as busy as usual thru all this (so work didnt decrease any and i still had to go to do it as transport is an essential service)
and haven't received an extra cent from anyone
but the company had us fill the paper work out and i believe they claimed it

MITCHAY · 09-02-2021, 08:46 PM

The original JobKeeper test was based on projected turnover loss not actual against a comparison period last year.

There was quite a bit of uncertainty at the time and I think it is generally accepted that we have faired much better than anticipated.

It was well known it wasn't perfect from the start and as always some take the ****.

**buggerlugs** · 09-02-2021, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

The original JobKeeper test was based on projected turnover loss not actual against a comparison period last year.

There was quite a bit of uncertainty at the time and I think it is generally accepted that we have faired much better than anticipated.

It was well known it wasn't perfect from the start and as always some take the ****.

That many business's done some very creative accounting to produce a 30% downturn to get the payments thou................

Accountant was advised by the ATO that anyone who took Super early WILL be audited to prove hardship. But the Jobkeeper is to big. Not enough staff.......

Yellow_Festiva · 10-02-2021, 01:29 AM

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WHO team: Coronavirus unlikely to have leaked from China lab

WUHAN, China — The coronavirus is unlikely to have leaked from a Chinese lab and is more likely to have jumped to humans from an animal, a World Health Organization team has concluded, an expert said Tuesday as the group wrapped up a visit to explore the origins of the virus.

.....................

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...?ocid=msedgntp

**Polyal** · 10-02-2021, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

My accountant said it's the biggest rort in Australian history and we will still be paying all this back long after you and I and every other bugger on the forum is gone...........
I've got so many customers that have been flat out thru Covid and still receiving money from the Government..........

Yes, ashamed to say that I have seen mining companies do the same and most of them kept chugging along!

HIPO · 10-02-2021, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...?ocid=msedgntp

**Polyal** · 10-02-2021, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HIPO

As if they were ever going to find anything, or be allowed to find anything, that place would have been hospital grade cleaned prior to them turning up.

wodahs · 10-02-2021, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...?ocid=msedgntp

with all the furkin round for WHO to get in to wohan to do their stuff , they sure managed to reach this conclusion fast

**FairmontGS** · 10-02-2021, 10:20 AM

Better late than never I guess...

Covid-19: Travellers face £1,750 cost for England quarantine hotels

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Travellers having to stay in quarantine hotels in England will be charged £1,750 for their stay, Health Secretary Matt Hancock has announced.

The measures, which come into force on Monday, apply to UK and Irish residents returning from 33 red list countries.

Those who fail to quarantine in a government-sanctioned hotel for 10 days face fines of up to £10,000.

Meanwhile, all travellers arriving into Scotland from abroad by air will have to go into quarantine hotels.

People travelling from red list countries to Wales and Northern Ireland will be required to book and pay for quarantine in England, as neither destination currently has any direct international flights.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55995645

**FTE217** · 10-02-2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

That many business's done some very creative accounting to produce a 30% downturn to get the payments thou................

Accountant was advised by the ATO that anyone who took Super early WILL be audited to prove hardship. But the Jobkeeper is to big. Not enough staff.......

yes it stinks, people/companies on the take in hard times ! like wtf.
Trouble is hard to chase all this down.
Nick Scali copped it I see
https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...08-p570o0.html

In my Industry Auto Aftermarket post 1st lockdowns obviously we were all in the poop wondering when will this end and once it did and with NO OS travels etc to date most I know have been busy like mad.
People enhancing their 4x4's/towing, new caravans have a 6mth wait list etcetc And I've heard of companies writing down their turnover was down 30% and more so they could get JK etc...
Now some would be true but others yer well what do you expect.