Undercover Cop Cars! - Page 4

Pinch · 02-03-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ralphy

na the jimny is just like a normal cop car....well the one i saw was anyways

The pink one was a while ago, but was marked. Might have been for evaluation and now they have a full timer...

NAFairlane · 03-03-2010, 11:37 AM

was talking to someone lastnight, apaarently there is an XF Falcon with surfboards on the roof, (doesnt even look roadworthy) hanging around in Victoria, could be a new initative as someone mentioned before that there was an old beat up commodore getting around

swanee · 03-03-2010, 11:47 AM

Tried to be baited by a Dash green FG F6 sedan in Blacktown about 2 weeks ago.

Come right up behind me (to the point of tailgating me), I moved into the left lane, he come up along side me (I immediately saw the computer and radar on the dash), then gave it a boot past me. I wasnt in the mood to do anything as it was 1am in the morning.

He took off and then turned off with the lights on at 100mph.

b2tf · 03-03-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by swanee

Tried to be baited by a Dash green FG F6 sedan in Blacktown about 2 weeks ago.

Come right up behind me (to the point of tailgating me), I moved into the left lane, he come up along side me (I immediately saw the computer and radar on the dash), then gave it a boot past me. I wasnt in the mood to do anything as it was 1am in the morning.

He took off and then turned off with the lights on at 100mph.

While we have well and truly covered the whole entrapment thing in this thread already, I do feel that is going a bit far. Ive had an unmarked SS try and egg me on here but its a dead giveaway when they actually seek you out in traffic to do it.

Smoke Pursuit · 03-03-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

While we have well and truly covered the whole entrapment thing in this thread already, I do feel that is going a bit far. Ive had an unmarked SS try and egg me on here but its a dead giveaway when they actually seek you out in traffic to do it.

Yeh anyone who races a late model FPV or Holden is really silly.. They are getting very sneaky with these cars in QLD, putting private plates on them, stickers, all kinds of garbish.. Its easier to do the speed limit nowadays, makes big v8s and turbos a bit redundant, kinda why I only drive an XR6 ute for work..

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Smoke Pursuit · 03-03-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

There's a blue XR6T with royan2 plates that I often see on the Hume Highway in Liverpool. Just about all the unmarked Fords I've seen have small blue and red LED's beside the numberplate.

Royans Transport Smash Repairs.. They hang around all the major highways looking for truck accidents / crashes.. They also have a VE International in Gold with Royans on the plate in QLD, its got a set of LED flashes on it and antennas, good tin copper cars, they must be real desperate for work to run these things on major highways all week just looking for prangs!

Smoke Pursuit · 03-03-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

XR-CHIEF & Left. I'm sorry I thought we were in Oz not England.

Very rarely heard them called that here. They're usually just refered to as 'plain' cars.

Maybe it's a Qld thing

Early 90's they use to call them Q Cars..

Back the late 80s in qld when they were yellow they would call them yellow bellys.. lol!!

Nowadays we refer to them on the UHF as either candy cars (the coloured ones) or plain wrappers LOL!

Meg's GT's · 03-03-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

Royans Transport Smash Repairs.. They hang around all the major highways looking for truck accidents / crashes.. They also have a VE International in Gold with Royans on the plate in QLD, its got a set of LED flashes on it and antennas, good tin copper cars, they must be real desperate for work to run these things on major highways all week just looking for prangs!

When the sign up payout is in the thousands for a truck stack you can easily see why they work the highways and travel 100's of k's to a truck stack.

**GasoLane** · 03-03-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

While we have well and truly covered the whole entrapment thing in this thread already, I do feel that is going a bit far. Ive had an unmarked SS try and egg me on here but its a dead giveaway when they actually seek you out in traffic to do it.

Is that the Blue one Aust ?

Rodp · 03-03-2010, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

Royans Transport Smash Repairs.. They hang around all the major highways looking for truck accidents / crashes.. They also have a VE International in Gold with Royans on the plate in QLD, its got a set of LED flashes on it and antennas, good tin copper cars, they must be real desperate for work to run these things on major highways all week just looking for prangs!

This one is definitely driven by a cop, has all the gear on the dash, LED's in the rear and have spotted it parked at a couple of RBT's recently.

Blue XR6T.

Rodp · 03-03-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

Yeh anyone who races a late model FPV or Holden is really silly.. They are getting very sneaky with these cars in QLD, putting private plates on them, stickers, all kinds of garbish.. Its easier to do the speed limit nowadays, makes big v8s and turbos a bit redundant, kinda why I only drive an XR6 ute for work..

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At least in Sydney, the unmarked choice appears to be Ford. I've seen a couple of XR8's with GT stripe kits, XR6T's but many unmarked F6's. Saw 3 F6's today over a 100km trip.

Not as many SS's as there used to be, only in the marked variety.

Jondalar · 03-03-2010, 05:13 PM

I've seen a Silver G6ET Northside of Brisbane, but not super recently, also a maroon VW Passat/Jetta, was not sure which.

388cube_edxr8 · 03-03-2010, 07:33 PM

Are the Australian Police bounded by law to tell the truth?

What I mean is, they are allowed to omit the fact that the car they are driving is not a police car (unmarked cars).

If someone was to print and sell "Not a Cop" style bumper stickers, would the unmarked police be able to put them on their cars?

No more entrapment, no more dirty tactics. Unless they have the "Not a Cop" sticker, treat them as marked police cars. Chances are they will be if they are trying to entice law breaking.

**GasoLane** · 03-03-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 388cube_edxr8

Are the Australian Police bounded by law to tell the truth?

What I mean is, they are allowed to omit the fact that the car they are driving is not a police car (unmarked cars).

If someone was to print and sell "Not a Cop" style bumper stickers, would the unmarked police be able to put them on their cars?

No more entrapment, no more dirty tactics. Unless they have the "Not a Cop" sticker, treat them as marked police cars. Chances are they will be if they are trying to entice law breaking.

I think you'll find if it's licensed to the Police force it's a Police car no matter what!

Quite a few years ago the Vic force even tried an old F100 with a couple of hay bales in the back on the Hume Hwy. It was still a police car.

Jestr75 · 03-03-2010, 07:52 PM

I see a green VE SS ute around Gladstone on the Bruce highway quite reguarly, usually with some one pulled over.

388cube_edxr8 · 03-03-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

I think you'll find if it's licensed to the Police force it's a Police car no matter what!

Quite a few years ago the Vic force even tried an old F100 with a couple of hay bales in the back on the Hume Hwy. It was still a police car.

No I mean that if there was a sudden popularity of people putting "Not a Cop" bumper stickers on their cars (to help distinguish the unmarked muds), would the fuzz be allowed to use them on the unmarked cars, or would they be bound by law to tell the truth?

GS608 · 03-03-2010, 11:18 PM

a bumper stick isn't a legally binding statement?

Rodp · 04-03-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 388cube_edxr8

No I mean that if there was a sudden popularity of people putting "Not a Cop" bumper stickers on their cars (to help distinguish the unmarked muds), would the fuzz be allowed to use them on the unmarked cars, or would they be bound by law to tell the truth?

It's a myth that an undercover has to answer yes to, 'are you a cop?'

b2tf · 04-03-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Is that the Blue one Aust ?

Sorry for the late reply - yes it was. Notice there is another blue one now, plates start with 'BC', a Red one that has plates starting with 'BE' and a bright green on with 'BD' - all SS's unmarked.

DJL351 · 04-03-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

It's a myth that an undercover has to answer yes to, 'are you a cop?'

It would make undercover work very difficult if they had to answer yes to that question.....

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Guess it's not too bad in WA then..... over here they still stand out like dog ***s.

As for plates etc, over here at least, some vehicles have more than one set assigned to them and for obvious reasons, they are not all licenced to the WA Police Force.

388cube_edxr8 · 05-03-2010, 12:06 AM

True, but maybe they are permitted to lie if they are actively in the process of an undercover process.

If an unmarked mud pulls up next to me at the lights with the intention of baiting me into a race, and I ask "Are you a Cop?" and he says "No", then I perhaps wouldn't tell him that the bloke in the passenger seat is carjacking me, or that the man behind him has just been mugged.

One would assume that they have a responsibility to be reasonable and just, and not blatantly risk perverting justice if no crime has been committed and they are not performing some sort of undercover investigation.

If the unmarked muds advertise a "Not a Cop" bumper sticker, then some upstanding citizen may not feel compelled to tell them about the crime they just saw committed, and the whole purpose of the mud being on the road in the first place has just been defeated.

Then again, since when are police required to have any respect for the law?

Baron.LSN · 05-03-2010, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DJL351

Guess it's not too bad in WA then..... over here they still stand out like dog ***s.

I've seen and heard of quite a few properly undercover cars here in Perth...

Rodp · 05-03-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 388cube_edxr8

If an unmarked mud pulls up next to me at the lights with the intention of baiting me into a race, and I ask "Are you a Cop?" and he says "No", then I perhaps wouldn't tell him that the bloke in the passenger seat is carjacking me, or that the man behind him has just been mugged.

I don't know why you feel the need to go a little far fetched to make a point about a pointless sticker.

388cube_edxr8 · 05-03-2010, 09:46 AM

I don't know why you feel compelled to make a point about making a need to make a point about a sticker that is clearly not pointless.

There must be some sort of mark we can have as car enthusiasts that can be used to distinguish us from the Entrapment Squad.

A piece of tape on the rego sticker, or a particular license plate bracket or something.

GS608 · 05-03-2010, 10:33 AM

ah its simple, unmarked cars do not have licence plate brackets/surrounds, if you're dumb enough to pull a stupid move on the road without having a quick squiz around to check your surroundings then you deserve to be caught.

Rodp · 05-03-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 388cube_edxr8

I don't know why you feel compelled to make a point about making a need to make a point about a sticker that is clearly not pointless.

There must be some sort of mark we can have as car enthusiasts that can be used to distinguish us from the Entrapment Squad.

A piece of tape on the rego sticker, or a particular license plate bracket or something.

It's like the 'everyone, don't buy petrol for a week' brigade to wrest control of the price of fuel back from large conglomerates - only worse.

Unless you were to stick a 'not a cop' sticker that's highly visible day or night on every panel of your car, what will it achieve? Ok, so it's not a cop - but then again it may well be since a cop can stick a not a cop sticker on his unmarked car...! But!! For those who refuse to stick the same sticker on their F6 looking unmarked cop car (read: everyone else), you're back at square one.

Road Games · 13-07-2010, 04:50 PM

I was gonna add something but i'm still laughing at you guys

388cube_edxr8 · 13-07-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DAZZLER351

I was gonna add something but i'm still laughing at you guys

You stole my sig!

Road Games · 13-07-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 388cube_edxr8

You stole my sig!

Damn straight its a classic , rep coming your way ;) i've given out too much in the last 24hrs .....
Cheers , i have a list of plates as well as pics but i'm not sure if its right to give the game away ?
I mean every morning i am getting tailgated by RED P platers up the M1 (most are white commo's)... doesn't matter what sex , i hate to think how their parents drive !!!!!!

Fev · 13-07-2010, 05:15 PM

And the award for pointless thread tangent goes to!