Quick question re: DRL's

[ope126]

Originally Posted by mas89

looking good,,, i was just about to say pin 10 not pin 3. my relay system must be different to yours,my blue is full light and the yellow is dim light.

Hey Mas89, as I am having trouble with mine being dim, what do you mean by your Blue = Full and Yellow = dimmed?

Isn't blue the headlight trigger and Yellow for Acc / ignition?

Happy to discuss...

[mas89]

When It was red + ,black - then put yellow + it was dim,
When it wad red+,black - then put blue + it was bright... So then my blue went to ign & yellow to headlights...

[ope126]

So we changed around the wiring assuming the yellow and blue were around the wrong way. But not, the DRL's did not work.

I have put the wiring back to they way it was supposed to be and also used Pin10 as described above. All works, however DRL's are still stuck in the "dim" mode with only 70% light output.

In fact for Daytime Running Lights, you can hardly see them during the day with the sun etc.

So the only thing I can think of is the relay must be faulty and it is stuck in a open / closed position thus not allowing the DRL's to increase intensity to 100%, then dim back to 70% when headlights are on.

Does anyone have the relays in a position that they could take a picture of the specs (diagram) on top of the realy so I can source some replacements.

I have had the car in pieces so many time this weekend, plus my relay is burried under the fron cross member.

I just thought if somone else had the relay diagram handy, I could grab them before I ri the car apart again.

Glenn

[Greane01]

Originally Posted by ope126

So we changed around the wiring assuming the yellow and blue were around the wrong way. But not, the DRL's did not work.

I have put the wiring back to they way it was supposed to be and also used Pin10 as described above. All works, however DRL's are still stuck in the "dim" mode with only 70% light output.

In fact for Daytime Running Lights, you can hardly see them during the day with the sun etc.

So the only thing I can think of is the relay must be faulty and it is stuck in a open / closed position thus not allowing the DRL's to increase intensity to 100%, then dim back to 70% when headlights are on.

Does anyone have the relays in a position that they could take a picture of the specs (diagram) on top of the realy so I can source some replacements.

I have had the car in pieces so many time this weekend, plus my relay is burried under the fron cross member.

I just thought if somone else had the relay diagram handy, I could grab them before I ri the car apart again.

Glenn

Hey Glenn - just wondering if you have ever been able to get 100% brightness? The test we did was to connect the red (fused) wire to the battery positive, connect the black to earth, and then touch the yellow wire to the battery positive: this gave us 100% brightness - while still holding the yellow on the battery positive, we then touched the blue to battery positive and they dimmed. For you, it will probably be the other way around...

Either way you should hear the relays 'click' when you switch the DRLs on and another 'click' when you activate the relay to dim the lights. One thing I just thought of though: have you confirmed you actually have two relays in your harness? If you look at the photo from my previous post (below) you can see that there are definitely two relay boxes in the harness (although it is possible to get two relays into one box!)
The relay to dim the DRLs will also have some kind of resistor to reduce power (I assume that's how it works)...

After you have tried the above, and they still don't change brightness, it might be worth emailing the seller to ensure they are actually designed to dim?

[ope126]

Originally Posted by Greane01

Hey Glenn - just wondering if you have ever been able to get 100% brightness? The test we did was to connect the red (fused) wire to the battery positive, connect the black to earth, and then touch the yellow wire to the battery positive: this gave us 100% brightness - while still holding the yellow on the battery positive, we then touched the blue to battery positive and they dimmed. For you, it will probably be the other way around...

Either way you should hear the relays 'click' when you switch the DRLs on and another 'click' when you activate the relay to dim the lights. One thing I just thought of though: have you confirmed you actually have two relays in your harness? If you look at the photo from my previous post (below) you can see that there are definitely two relay boxes in the harness (although it is possible to get two relays into one box!)
<a href="http://s363.photobucket.com/albums/oo80/smw757/?action=view&current=DRLwiringandrelays.jpg" target="_blank">imageThe relay to dim the DRLs will also have some kind of resistor to reduce power (I assume that's how it works)...

After you have tried the above, and they still don't dim, it might be worth emailing the seller to ensure they are actually designed to dim?

Hi, mine are exactly the same as yours. 2 little relays side by side.
I hear one click when ignition turned on; DRLS on. But I do not hear another click when headlights are turned on. So that must be tha answer.

But my issue is that they have never been 100% brightness, only 70% brightness. So maybe the relay is stuck in a closed / open position and not allowing it to reach the required 100% intensity.

Could you please tell me the digits on your relay, I can't quite make it out; 86, 87 85 and 30?

Glenn

[Greane01]

Originally Posted by ope126

Hi, mine are exactly the same as yours. 2 little relays side by side.
I hear one click when ignition turned on; DRLS on. But I do not hear another click when headlights are turned on. So that must be tha answer.

But my issue is that they have never been 100% brightness, only 70% brightness. So maybe the relay is stuck in a closed / open position and not allowing it to reach the required 100% intensity.

Could you please tell me the digits on your relay, I can't quite make it out; 86, 87 85 and 30?

Glenn

Glenn - if you click on the thumbnail it brings up a bigger photo - then click on the photo again to enlarge it - but yep, those are the numbers.

[Riksta]

Well well well, what do we have here?



Now the main problem I have is them not dimming with headlights, they extinguish.

My wiring seems to differ from yours in that I have no yellow wire - I have a red 12v line, a black earth line, and a blue line which I hooked into pin 10 (low beams). As soon as the low beams came on, DRLs went out altogether.

So we've gone and lopped the blue line, as long as the car is running the DRLs just stay on at 100% brightness. I may need to look into another relay kit for it that has the dimming capability.

Massive thanks to everyone who has attempted the mod and posted assistance though - I needed it to get the bumper off, and for wiring hook up points - couldn't have done it without you guys. Much love for my Mondeo Brethren!

[Greane01]

Originally Posted by Riksta

Well well well, what do we have here?

Now the main problem I have is them not dimming with headlights, they extinguish.

My wiring seems to differ from yours in that I have no yellow wire - I have a red 12v line, a black earth line, and a blue line which I hooked into pin 10 (low beams). As soon as the low beams came on, DRLs went out altogether.

So we've gone and lopped the blue line, as long as the car is running the DRLs just stay on at 100% brightness. I may need to look into another relay kit for it that has the dimming capability.

Massive thanks to everyone who has attempted the mod and posted assistance though - I needed it to get the bumper off, and for wiring hook up points - couldn't have done it without you guys. Much love for my Mondeo Brethren!

Looks good Riksta - love the Panther Black! The DRLs really finish off the front end nicely!

[Riksta]

Thanks mate I'll try give it a real good wash and grab a couple of shots of her gleaming in the sun on Sunday - weather permitting!

[roadtrack]

Hi all..Many thanks to everybody for your detailed info.and photos on this topic...extremely useful. It would seem that the DRL's sourced by Greane01 were the most straight forward to wire in to that sophisticated electrical system.Don't want to think about the angst if something got a bit back to front in that wiring system! Thanks again to all.

[Riksta]

I bit the bullet and re-clamped the wire to the headlight wire tonight. The DRLs were just that little bit too bright with the headlights at night, I didn't want to attract too much defect attention (my windows are also tinted too dark to be legal) so now when I turn my headlights on, the DRLs go out altogether.

Might look into some sort of relay system that will dim them instead of extinguishing them so I can keep them on at night without them being stupid bright.

And by "Stupid bright" I mean at night, they're just that little bit blinding if you cop them in your eyes at the right angle. In the following photo, there are NO lights active other than the DRLs.



Add the headlights to the mix and you can imagine why I decided that it was better for them to go out at night time!

[gh172]

Had the DRL's installed today, love them!

[mas89]

Just added some rear drl using the rear fog lights cut down to 3.5-4 volts using an old phone charger..than turn off when park lights are turn on..

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by mas89

Just added some rear drl using the rear fog lights cut down to 3.5-4 volts using an old phone charger..than turn off when park lights are turn on..

Illegal.... Just be careful using them in clear weather the police hate them.

[MAD]

I hate them too!!
The only thing worse than fog lights, is the rear fog light.

[mas89]

I hate rear fog light aswell...what I have done is made them run on lower power which mades it 6 w brightness not 21w ..

[Greane01]

So - trouble with the DRLs...

Two of the four LEDs on the driver side DRL keep switching off then on again with no apparent pattern... Anybody else have this problem, or anyone have a suggestion as to what may be causing this? They have been working fine since I put them on at least 12 months ago...!

Cheers

[MAD]

Sounds like the LEDs have burned out. Probably not much chance for repair.

[Greane01]

Originally Posted by MAD

Sounds like the LEDs have burned out. Probably not much chance for repair.

I originally disagreed with your assessment, as the two troublesome LEDs were still working (albeit intermittently); however, they were definitely in their death throes and are now completely dead, leaving two functioning LEDs in the driver side DRL.

Now, do I fork out more money (considering they are only 12 months old) for another pair and pull the car apart to fit them?!!!

Or, I guess I could damage two LEDs on the passenger side DRL to match?!

[ope126]

Time for some new ones!!!
Bar off again...

[mas89]

Or if you are game pull apart for a looksee a see if you fix the leds that have died. .

[Greane01]

Originally Posted by mas89

Or if you are game pull apart for a looksee a see if you fix the leds that have died. .

I was going to replace the pair with new ones off eBay... But to be honest, it's low on my list of 'things to do'...

But yes, I would be keen to see if individual LEDs could be replaced...

[wazza675]

New to the forum and just skimmed through this thread (while trying to ignore my daughters fighting in the background!!).

I'm about to pick up an MC Modeo LX (petrol) in dark micastone for the missus.

I'm currently running a series 1 VE Omega (with SS nose) and the Modeo will replace a T31 X-trail that was written off. Both cars have (or had in the X-Trail's case) Phillips LED DRL bars fitted for better daytime visibility. I'd now like to add DRLs to the Mondeo. Given the MC Mondeo has blanking pannels fitted where the DRLs fit on the higher optioned models, I assume they'll just clip in to the housing one the blanking is removed.
So now I have some questions:
1. Does the LX model have the required looms and plugs fitted as standard, and only require the lights? [As a side note, I know the VE Omega had the SS/SV6 loom in later production runs, and so the fog lights didn't require anything extra other than the lights, housing, and the pig-tail loom that stretched across the front bar].
2. Are the DRLs different between MA MB and MC models?
3. Are there equivalent quality DRL kits available that fit into the recess in the MC bar?
4. Are there any links for complete kits that would suit my application?

I don't really care whether the lights dim or switch off when the trigger lights (usually parkers) are activated. The Phillips units both came on with the ignition and remained on for about 10 seconds after the car was turned off. They also turned off completely when the trigger light was turned on.

Also, I guess the same questions apply for the fog lights.
Existing or required wiring?
Switch gear?
compatible models/variants?

Thanks in advance
Wazza

[Greane01]

Quick response from the iPhone...

1. No looms or plugs or existing wiring. And no, they don't just clip on. You have to stick the DRL housing onto the bumper using a proper adhesive (I used sikaflex) and then the DRL clips in to that.
2. Yes. The MC, as you point out, has the blanking plates where the DRLs fit. Earlier bumpers are different.
3. And 4. Yes - eBay is your friend.

Sorry, can't help with the fog lights.

[Greane01]

Update - two more LEDs have died; this time on the passenger side. Unfortunately they are the opposite two LEDs that died on the driver side, so they don't even match up now! All up, 50% of the LEDs have died in the three years since I bought them...

When it goes to one on each side, then I'll replace them...!

[goz007]

just wondering if anyone has turned off the DRL on an MD mondeo 2016+

[frankie86]

Originally Posted by goz007

just wondering if anyone has turned off the DRL on an MD mondeo 2016+

I have, can be done via forscan

[goz007]

Cheers thanks for the reply.....any chance u can list how u did it?