Driving Pet Peeves. What really ticks you off?

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by flappist

The point I was making was if you believe the statement is wrong then retort against its content rather than whether or not it is politically correct.....

I wasnt being politically correct in the first place, the rolling head might have told you that, if you werent obsessed with political correctness.




Sometimes its just an observation.


Edit: To remain on topic, this post has wheels.

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Odd, because it was never mentioned to me by examiner or instructor, no one in my family does it or knows about it either, either do my friends.

The only time I indicate left is when I'm getting off the left exit of a roundabout, going straight through, no indicator, its going to confuse the crap out of people at "highly contested" roundabouts where you're always riding the clutch waiting for that slight gap to get through and relying on indicators to see what people are going to do.

I know one particular bastard of a roundabout which backs up very far when its busy, which has a pedestrian crossing just about in the thing too.

The idea is you indicate if turning left as you enter, if going straight you do not indicate as you enter but you do as you go past the 1st exit and approaching the 2nd exit. If you are going right you indicate right as you enter and then as you go past the 2nd exit approaching the 3rd you indicate left. Any driving instructor that does not teach this needs to be examined themselves.

This was the way it was taught back when I did my first military drivers course and then again every other course I have done including my ambulance driving course 6 years ago, it is not new law and it does work on any size roundabout. I would even go as far to say that if you don't have time to indicate properly you may be going too fast through a roundabout.

[rancidpunx]

The Transit Lanes in Brisbane. I understand the idea behind them but they just make the traffic worse. Buses also stop in them every 30 seconds so the entire lanes merges across to get around the bus.
They just add to the congestion.

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by davway

What peeves me off?
EVERY OTHER ROAD USER.

That just about cuts it for me too.

I’ve made a short clip with some things that really peeve me.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtHzaeTpYB0

[burkie_21]

Originally Posted by prydey

ahh... no. refer to post #5. people who think its their job to correct others on the street are just as bad as those who are doing the wrong thing.

why get involved? why make it personal? just let them go. people that do that sort of thing will eventually do it to the wrong person.

if someone is tailgating you at night with thier highbeam on, how is it not personal??? it takes your eyes off the road and into the mirror causing lack of concentration on the road, increased risk of accident. my opinion is that it is personal.

[TheZHLANE]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

That just about cuts it for me too.

I’ve made a short clip with some things that really peeve me.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtHzaeTpYB0

Quite a few peanuts

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

That just about cuts it for me too.

I’ve made a short clip with some things that really peeve me.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtHzaeTpYB0

What a brilliant video, my hat off too you. It should be amazing to watch but unfortunately it is not, I see similar every day. I really would love to set up a cam on the ambulance one day, some of the stupidity would blow your minds.

Did you by any chance drop that video in to the cops? There would be at least 50 offences there. It is a common one that people do not understand that the fog line should not be crossed, the breakdown lane is not a passing lane and you are not allowed to drive on painted islands,

[The G6ET Spot]

Originally Posted by Landau Stable

To begin, i'll mention one of mine: I can't stand it when i am towing with my car trailer, and someone pulls out in front of me forcing me on the brakes. They take off, leaving me to struggle up to speed again. (usually, there is no one behind me, so it wouldn't have hurt them to wait)
Even worse when it comes to stopping, and they pull out in front of me at the last second, reducing my braking distance at an intersection etc

Try that scenario out with a semi trailer loaded to 40 odd tonne, and you will realise what most truck drivers have to put up with EVERY day.

Although I don't get up to those weights anymore during the day (mainly around 20-25tonne) it still gets your frustration to a new level when it happens.

I have had 2 people do it a few years ago that didn't give me enough room and found out the consequences, to say the driver of the Barina shat his pants when the bullbar was through his rear window would be an understatement. The look o his face when I got to his window will stay with me forever. It was just priceless.

[Streets]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

The idea is you indicate if turning left as you enter, if going straight you do not indicate as you enter but you do as you go past the 1st exit and approaching the 2nd exit.

Holy crap, someone else who actually understands how indicators are supposed to be used at roundabouts! :

Originally Posted by geckoGT

I would even go as far to say that if you don't have time to indicate properly you may be going too fast through a roundabout.

I would go as far to say that if you can't work your indicators while cranking your steering wheel and changing gear then you're not trying.

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by Streets

Holy crap, someone else who actually understands how indicators are supposed to be used at roundabouts! :


I would go as far to say that if you can't work your indicators while cranking your steering wheel and changing gear then you're not trying.

I agree with you but having to change gear mid intersection is really bad driving, you should be in the correct gear before you enter the intersection.

The reason the indicator switch is right near the steering wheel is so you can use them while steering.

[Streets]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

I agree with you but having to change gear mid intersection is really bad driving, you should be in the correct gear before you enter the intersection.

Good point.

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

The idea is you indicate if turning left as you enter, if going straight you do not indicate as you enter but you do as you go past the 1st exit and approaching the 2nd exit. If you are going right you indicate right as you enter and then as you go past the 2nd exit approaching the 3rd you indicate left. Any driving instructor that does not teach this needs to be examined themselves.

This was the way it was taught back when I did my first military drivers course and then again every other course I have done including my ambulance driving course 6 years ago, it is not new law and it does work on any size roundabout. I would even go as far to say that if you don't have time to indicate properly you may be going too fast through a roundabout.

This may be so, but doest the rule to indicate say you must indicate at least 30m (?) prior to the intersection etc.... On a small roundabout there isnt enough time when travelling straight through to indicate, but enough time when turning right to indicate your exiting. Hence why the rule states "when practicable" to indicate when exiting.

[rancidpunx]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

That just about cuts it for me too.

I’ve made a short clip with some things that really peeve me.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtHzaeTpYB0

Still the government will push the Speed crap. Excellent video, I wonder how traffic agencies would take this in relation to driver re-education.

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

This may be so, but doest the rule to indicate say you must indicate at least 30m (?) prior to the intersection etc.... On a small roundabout there isnt enough time when travelling straight through to indicate, but enough time when turning right to indicate your exiting. Hence why the rule states "when practicable" to indicate when exiting.

The 30m rule is an old rule that was done away with years ago.

46 Giving a left change of direction signal
(1) Before a driver changes direction to the left, the driver must
give a left change of direction signal in accordance with
rule 47 for long enough to comply with subrule (2) and, if
subrule (3) applies to the driver, that subrule.
Offence provision.
Note Changes direction to the left is defined in rule 45 (2).
(2) The driver must give the change of direction signal for long
enough to give sufficient warning to other drivers and
pedestrians.
(3) If the driver is about to change direction by moving from a
stationary position at the side of the road or in a median
strip parking area, the driver must give the change of
direction signal for at least 5 seconds before the driver
changes direction.
Note Median strip parking area is defined in the dictionary.

48 Giving a right change of direction signal
(1) Before a driver changes direction to the right, the driver
must give a right change of direction signal in accordance
with rule 49 for long enough to comply with subrule (2)
and, if subrule (3) applies to the driver, that subrule.
Offence provision.
Note Changes direction to the right is defined in rule 45 (3).
(2) The driver must give the change of direction signal for long
enough to give sufficient warning to other drivers and
pedestrians.
(3) If the driver is about to change direction by moving from a
stationary position at the side of the road or in a median
strip parking area, the driver must give the change of
direction signal for at least 5 seconds before the driver
changes direction.
Note Median strip parking area is defined in the dictionary.

So, basically the 30m rule no longer exists and it is now required that you indicate for a sufficient time to indicate your intentions.

The roundabout indicating takes priority in the roundabout situation as it is the law designed for that application. You do not apply an interpretation of the general rules for indicating in other applications to use in a roundabout.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by rancidpunx

Still the government will push the Speed crap. Excellent video, I wonder how traffic agencies would take this in relation to driver re-education.

absolutely agree. this obsession with speed really needs to end.

[JC]

People going slow in the right hand lane of a multi lane road.

About indicators on a roundabout - I agree that they should be used, but I reckon 80% of people use them incorrectly; ie they go into the roundabout with LH indicator on, but don't turn left at the first exit, they drive straight (sort of) past it and then put on their RH indicator to indicate that they are taking the next exit (which is the straight ahead from where they started). My theory here is that their first direction of travel on the roundabout is left, and as they start to straighten up their wheel is turned right, so they indicate to show us all how stupid they are!.

I used to trust indicators on roundabouts, but you can't really, so it would just be better if people only indicated whern turning left or right: at least that way they know what they mean, and so do the rest of us.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

That just about cuts it for me too.

I’ve made a short clip with some things that really peeve me.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtHzaeTpYB0

That was very interesting, video was amazingly clear too.

[brismike]

These are my pet peevs .. Second go at it cos my first post was deleted due to me breaking a forum rule. Apologies if that first post offended anyone.

1 - Pensioners driving with tunnel vision, never checking mirrors or blind spots, usually driving 10 to 15k's under the speed limit.
2 - Blonde chicks driving ricer cars (Usually Kia's or Hyundai's) either with cell phones pressed to their skull or texting away like there is no tommorow.
3 - Bus Drivers who pull out from bus stops like they have a god given right to barge into a line of traffic causing everyone to jam on their brakes so they can carry on annoying everyone else on the road.
4 - Drivers who have subwoofers that are more powerful than the engines in their ricer cars. You know the ones . . you can hear them from 2 suburbs away ... doof Doof DOOF .....
5 - People who fill their car (Usually Toyota's) at service stations who take ages to pay and then wander aimlessly back after paying and then take 5 minutes to actually start their car before moving off obviously assuming that you actually enjoy waiting for them to get a move on so you can fill yours.
6 - Bogan Commodore drivers (Not VE's) who think that thier car is better than my FG XR6 who try to goad you into a drag at the lights.
7 - People in shopping centre car parks who just open their car doors like they own 25 metres of space around their car and they don't care if they ding your bodywork when they do it.
8 - People who wash their car windscreen as they drive along the freeway and the spray is not directed properly and it just goes over the top of thier car and straight onto your windscreen.
9 - Twits who can't park properly to save their lives and end up parked over 1.5 car spaces.
10 - Red light runners <<<<< Really hate them.
11 - People with a deathwish who take it upon themselves to drive around Railway boom gates and try to beat the Train.

I probably have many more ... Apologies to any stereotype driver I may have offended with any of the above illustrations. (Except Commodore Bogans lol).

[svo supporter]

Bloody roundabout rules change everytime the wind changes direction. I live in S.A, however I did my licence in QLD. The rule when I did my licence, when going straight ahead at a roundabout was, indicate left, as you approach the roundabout, then indicate right once on the roundabout, then left when exiting. Then I think they changed the rule, that you indicate when exiting the roundabout, or something stupid. So now, all I do is keep an eye on what the traffic is doing at the roundabout, and respond accordingly.

Anyway, my pet hate is, idiotic drivers out in the country, sitting on 60 KPH on a dead straight stretch of road, where you can see for miles, when the speed limit is 100 or 110. I actually had one today, that was sitting on 30 KPH. Or idiots sitting on 60 to 70 KPH, on the open road, then braking for a bend with a suggested speed of 75 to 80 KPH.

The car trailer one the Op posted about. I cop it reguarly, when towing. It really annoys the crap out of me. One day, someone will end up with me in the front of their car.

As for the flashing of headlights as a courtesy thing, once an overtaking manoeuver has been done. Personally, I don't do that. I'll indicate right, then left once I have passed. Truckies on the open road will quite often indicate when it is safe to pass. Once you have passed, and indicated as I do, they also respond the same way.

[Linkachu]

Originally Posted by brismike

3 - Bus Drivers who pull out from bus stops like they have a god given right to barge into a line of traffic causing everyone to jam on their brakes so they can carry on annoying everyone else on the road.

Thats the road rules, if a bus is pulling out you give way to it.

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by Linkachu

Thats the road rules, if a bus is pulling out you give way to it.

As long as they give adequate indication of them pulling out, 1 flash and then pull out is not good enough. We had a council bus do that and he side swiped a passing ambulance. Witnesses confirmed the ambulance was almost on the rear bumper as the bus hit the indicator, bus driver fault.

[OLDFORDNUT]

Here in QLD the Cops dont even agree on how to use a roundabout so what does that tell the public

[brismike]

Originally Posted by Linkachu

Thats the road rules, if a bus is pulling out you give way to it.

Yes I know it is .. but it still peeves me when they don't even look to see if there is anything passing them at that instant and just barge out regardless. They should indicate right and pull out when the traffic behind them has slowed enough to allow them to.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by OLDFORDNUT

Here in QLD the Cops dont even agree on how to use a roundabout so what does that tell the public

one problem with roundabouts is they range from a spot of concrete in the middle of a cross-road, to ones so big you can't see the other side. the way drivers behave on a big one is different to a tiny one.

i believe the most consistent way to treat a roundabout is the circle itself is treated as a street in it's own right, so you just give way to vehicles on the circle as you would any other street.

my pet peeve is drivers that push in front of you, then go slow.

[TheSneakiness]

- Toyota, BMW and Mercedes Benz drivers full stop. The amount of times I've been cut-off, stuck behind or waited for movement out of those 3 manufactered cars is amazing

- Being cut off in general, regular occurence for those Gold Coasters who travel Bundall Road to Robina on a daily basis.

- People who can't move with traffic (see the picture a page or so ago with 8 seconds to cross an intersection). You impede everyone else at the same time.

- Indicating at the last second to turn down a side street/exit a roundabout. Again, you impede everyone else at the same time.

- P platers in general, you get your license and automatically forget everything you were taught.

- Stupid *insert random ethnic country* drivers who show no patience when I'm trying to reverse my bus out of the carpark when the lane is about 5 foot too narrow so I have to do a three point turn to get out and you try driving around me 4 times because the shops are closing in 20 minutes. Just show some patience.

I'm sure I've got more but that's what annoys me at the moment

[Landau Stable]

I can't stand the people who are lost, but figure it's everyone elses problem to wait for them to find their way. You can see these people looking side to side for numbers or street names, or looking down at the map or GPS. Nevermind that they are now doing a crawl, and blocking traffic behind them. Is it that hard to pull over while traffic passes, before resuming your crawling pace, while getting your bearings?

[grandpa_spec_F6]

Drivers in their little Suzuki swift who refuse to let you merge, then speed up to 10k's over the limit when you go to over take them... must be 'small car syndrome'

[sarrge2001]

*People that can't use a multi-lane roundabout.....ie. trying to turn right from the left hand lane,
*People who drive with dogs on their lap - be it a little rat dog, or a kelpie (yep - seen that too!)
*people who let their kids stand on the seat instead of belting them in!!
*right lane hogs
*people who crawl along oblivious to their surroundings at 20kmh because their looking for a street name or house number and then when they find it, just swing in or stop.
*those who can't merge - crawl up to the end of the merging lane and stop and wait for all the traffic. They call it a "merging lane" for a reason. Having said that, those who close up the gap so people can't merge in front of them are equally at fault.

[290v]

how about when you pulling up to the traffic lights and you are in your lane and no one is infront of you and a car cuts across lanes to get front position in your lane and then takes of slower than the other drivers in the other lanes

[blueoval]

All drivers who refuse to care about anyone else on the road but themselves.