***Ford to be killed off V8 Supercars circuit at end of 2015*** - Page 6

Tonz · 12-11-2014, 02:13 PM

Why would Penske put in so much $$$ if this is only for 1 year. I just dont believe he would spend the moolars he has/will to race a Ford (falcon) for 1 season

Either AA are doing what jurnolists do well... embellish and twist the story OR there is something really strange going on/down that we dont know about.

jpblue1000 · 12-11-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonz

Why would Penske put in so much $$$ if this is only for 1 year. I just dont believe he would spend the moolars he has/will to race a Ford (falcon) for 1 season

Either AA are doing what jurnolists do well... embellish and twist the story OR there is something really strange going on/down that we dont know about.

I'm pretty sure Penske know they are not racing Fords period. They are racing COTF cars with a body style similarity to a ford falcon powered by an engine with some resemblance and historical links to an old ford engine.
Pretty sure the chassis will accommodate many different skins! and engine brands and types.
I don't believe there is anything in the rules to stop anyone adopting a body shape from eligible cars from any manufacturer should they wish. they don't have to have factory backing!.
I now Penske has an affiliation with ford but I believe the rules would allow them to use a 4 door Hyundai, kia, or rolls royce if they wanted

JP

futura · 12-11-2014, 02:31 PM

Don't believe that speed café will alter the poll. Looking around Bathurst the last couple of years, no shortage of blue supporters..

Blueford260 · 12-11-2014, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Thats not a true indication of follower’s or either speed cafe/V8 Supercar’s have rigged that poll as to try and make Ford Aus think they have the biggest following, because Holden would have the biggest following by far in this country especially considering V8 Supercar’s.

Didn't say it was fact, I have no doubt Holden would have the majority support of the viewing public maybe as much as 50% but as I said 25-30% are loyal to Ford which is a fair chunk of supporters to loose.

Tonz · 12-11-2014, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jpblue1000

I'm pretty sure Penske know they are not racing Fords period. They are racing COTF cars with a body style similarity to a ford
. they don't have to have factory backing!.

I now Penske has an affiliation with ford but I believe the rules would allow them to use a 4 door Hyundai, kia, or rolls royce if they wanted

JP

Now jpblue what have you been inhaling..... Rolls Royces with holden or toyota engines YES Bring it on

galaxy xr8 · 12-11-2014, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueford260

Didn't say it was fact, I have no doubt Holden would have the majority support of the viewing public maybe as much as 50% but as I said 25-30% are loyal to Ford which is a fair chunk of supporters to loose.

I never said you did, I’m just saying that the poll is not a true indication of what supporters would follow in numbers, like you have said and we all pretty much know Holden would have the biggest fan base in V8 super cars.

To me polls like this is just a message that some business/s or person has a vested interest in to try and sway a diminishing client, it’s all just a little to late I’m afraid.

xr8territory · 12-11-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonz

Why would Penske put in so much $$$ if this is only for 1 year. I just dont believe he would spend the moolars he has/will to race a Ford (falcon) for 1 season

Either AA are doing what jurnolists do well... embellish and twist the story OR there is something really strange going on/down that we dont know about.

Penske has bought a Race Team. The DJR Falcons are only 'Falcons' because of the Ford Engine and body panels. Easy to convert them to appear like another maunafucturers vehicle. eg take for instance Lee Holdsworth Mercedes he raced last round. Didnt it start as a Falcon?

Dreama · 12-11-2014, 04:07 PM

so have ford said anything about putting something else besides the falcon in after 2015?

**ebxr8240** · 12-11-2014, 09:56 PM

Focus or Fusion guards on same rolling body..
With Coyote engine..
They are NOT using Ford [Falcon] bodies!!
Or may even use the F series ..
God knows.. F series are selling ok though !!!

WPR1 · 12-11-2014, 10:12 PM

With Herrod (offical Ford performance parts distributed) and DJR looking to team up to make hot Mustangs wouldn't be surprised if DJR Penske take over as the official Ford team.

Dreama · 13-11-2014, 10:06 AM

F series would look cool.

Personally I would like to see more Production style races aired on TV

vztrt · 13-11-2014, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreama

F series would look cool.

Personally I would like to see more Production style races aired on TV

Speedweek on SBS

mac_man_luke · 13-11-2014, 11:53 AM

I hope with a body changed they go to a coyote based motor.

actually i bet they go with an ecoboost 6 with the new rules :(

FPV GTHO · 13-11-2014, 01:46 PM

I'm not sure if anyone actually races a Coyote V8 yet, the DP cars in America raced the modular 5L and I thought they kept that until switching to the turbo V6.

galaxy xr8 · 13-11-2014, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

I'm not sure if anyone actually races a Coyote V8 yet, the DP cars in America raced the modular 5L and I thought they kept that until switching to the turbo V6.

Don’t the utes use the 5 litre coyote ?.

Fab · 13-11-2014, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Don’t the utes use the 5 litre coyote ?.

Yes they do.

FPV GTHO · 13-11-2014, 08:50 PM

There'd be Mustangs racing stateside with them as well so poor choice of words on my part, but I don't think you would use what they're running as a basis when you've got the development from the Daytona Prototype engines and the GT3/GT1 Manthey GT's. The Coyote platform might get interesting depending on what Ford has in mind with racing the GT350 though.

Nikked · 14-11-2014, 08:26 AM

GT350 is speculated to have the crossplane crank equipped 5.2 Voodoo engine...

darkside · 17-11-2014, 12:37 PM

not sure if this has been already put up but Penske has dropped the f bomb,no more ford support after 2015 for v8 supercars
http://autoaction.com.au/roger-pensk...41116_35706047

**Sorted** · 17-11-2014, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by darkside

not sure if this has been already put up but Penske has dropped the f bomb,no more ford support after 2015 for v8 supercars
http://autoaction.com.au/roger-pensk...41116_35706047

Ford Australia really have no idea - very disappointing considering all the hype Penske are bringing :(

Guzz226 · 17-11-2014, 05:29 PM

Hopefully not true

If it is true and Ford aren't backing Peneske, perhaps they are still backing FPR?

If they are pulling out altogether, they are just dumb - especially with all the spruiking the US has been doing in recent weeks about Motorsport being in Ford's DNA yadda yadda yadda

Seriously as a lifelong blueblood this cuts deep if found to be true - more so when Bob stood up and proclaimed at the Fanatics Day it was great to have FGX confirmed on the 2015 grid - he was very careful in his words and mentioned nothing about Ford Factory funding though.

How can Ford not get it when even Volvo and Nissan do FFS???

galaxy xr8 · 17-11-2014, 05:46 PM

I can understand to a degree why they would be pulling funding completely but the bit that does irk me is like what Guzz226 mentioned above, the fact that FORD US has been promoting their Motorsport DNA heritage.

Don’t treat us as fools Ford, as we certainly are not.

darkside · 18-11-2014, 12:00 AM

frosty also stated that they get their coin from ford usa not aus ...remember that ford is still the largest privately owned business ...period...gm have also stated that they have plans to scrap the rear wheel drive v8 so that could mean that both companies will be looking for differant drive trains if they stay in this category at all .....anyway keep argueing amongst yourselves

gotta love this place at times...

Fab · 28-11-2014, 10:13 PM

The Kiwi test cricket team enjoys Ford sponsorship.

satria · 01-12-2014, 04:19 PM

The end of an era...

http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/12/01/...rs-withdrawal/

DOA4 · 01-12-2014, 04:23 PM

Complete and utter idiots.
Gun loaded and pointing squarely at their foot and I think they just pulled the trigger.

rex351 · 01-12-2014, 04:29 PM

Trying to kill a series they helped create. Good one *********.

Guzz226 · 01-12-2014, 04:30 PM

Absolutely gutted

Nufties running the show that's for sure

DMENTDGT · 01-12-2014, 04:34 PM

What an absolute f&@$ing joke Ford is, just shattered words can't describe what I'm feeling... FML...

Andrew

cortinagt · 01-12-2014, 04:34 PM

Can't argue with the figures. Mazda and Toyota aren't in V8SC and look how many vehicles they sell.

I love motorsport and the V8 category but I think it is becoming increasingly irrelevant.
Lets hope to 2017 changes will bring in some more manufactures.

Also don't forget it isn't the first time Ford walked away from Touring Car racing in Australia and it regretted it the first time, only took them 21 years to figure it out (78-99).