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Old 10-05-2015, 06:50 PM   #1
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Which confirms Michael is in a vegetative state and will remain so for the remainder of his life. Sad.
whilst it does look like a real possibility, i will remain forever hopeful that it is not the case.
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Its still hard to belive that Michael is in such a condition, every time I open this thread I expect to read of some hugely positive news and its yet to come, so very sad for him and his family.
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As above, i dont think he will be able to pop out of this state.

If he isnt out of it now, then probably wont be.

Sad indeed and if non essential assets being sold off as well, then Corinna also understands and expects that they wont be using them no more.

Life, can be cruel sometimes.
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Spare a thought for Jules Bianchi and his family also.
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Spare a thought for Jules Bianchi and his family also.
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C'mon guys don't give up, you were all so adamant he was/would be fine. Let him live!

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Terribly sad for Schumi and his family.

Unfortunately maximum recovery from brain injury occurs by some 18 months, and by 24 months you reach a plateau in recovery....

For his wife she now needs to deal with the reality- which apparently is 24 hour care that would involve rostered teams of medically trained carers-probably 3 shifts round the clock.

Very very expensive, and his wife needs to be practical about the reality of their situation. Will involve moving him physically to avoid livedo sores, and to reduce lung infections/pneumonia which can be a problem lying down too much-fluid fills the lungs.

Very sad all round and I hope his wife gets strength from their children...
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F1 legend Michael Schumacher's care costs total £10million as former driver's battle continues following skiing accident

The racing hero was in a coma for six months following the horrifying accident in December 2013 that nearly claimed his life.

F1 hero Michael Schumacher's care costs have reportedly risen to £10million following a horror skiing accident that left him in a coma.

The racing legend came out of the coma six months later, and since then the full state of his condition has been kept under wraps as he continues his recovery.

It is understood that his care costs have dented his £300million fortune £100,000 each week after a state of the art treatment facility was installed in his Swiss mansion home.

Schumacher was placed in an artificial coma after smashing his head onto rocks while skiing at the French Alpine resort of Meribel.

The star spent 159 days in the coma before moving to the Lausanne rehabilitation clinic.

He then left to continue his care at home with his his doting wife Corinna.

The 46-year-old is surrounded by a 15-strong medical team, tasked with providing him round-the-clock care.

While in his coma, he lost a quarter of his bodyweight, leaving him weighing in at just eight and-a-half stone.

Professor Curt Diehm, of the Karlsbad teaching hospital in Germany, said: "While a weight loss in coma patients is normal, 20 kilos is a lot for people with normal body weights.

"One must assume that his muscles have degraded greatly due to the immobility."

Alongside their teenage children Mick and Gina Marie, Schumacher's loving wife Corinna has managed to keep the family out of the spotlight despite the celebrity sporting star being struck by tragedy.

Speaking of his wife before the accident, Schumacher said: "It is not so easy to find a partner who unconditionally adapts to the pace of my life."

And it was just days before the crash that the seven-times Formula One World Champion told how important his wife is in his life.

He even said they had never had a serious argument.

"It’s because we shared the same values," he said.

"During all the time I was racing she was my guardian angel."

In the days that followed the horror accident, an insider said: "All the models, the groupies, the sex-on-legs pit-stop girls never meant a thing to Michael.

"Corinna was a small-town girl like he was a small-town boy, both from the same end of the country.

"They truly married their souls as well as their bodies. He doesn’t know she’s in the room with him in Grenoble but all the time that positive love is flowing into him. No one loves him more than Corinna.

"If he should not come through this, then life as she knows it will also end. She could never love again."

In February it emerged that the couple had sold their Norwegian holiday home for £2million.

The mountain home, situated north of Oslo in Trysil, was a cherished family getaway for the racing star, who used it as a holiday home since the 1990s.

Of his recovery, Sabine Kehm, Schumacher’s manager, has said: "We need a long time.

"He is making progress appropriate to the severity of the situation."
I wonder what progress he has made?
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I wonder what progress he has made?
Wtf is a "stone"? I think my grandmother used to refer to her weight in those terms. Aren't we in 2015 now?
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Old 16-10-2015, 02:32 AM   #10
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1 Stone is just over 6 kg.. It is an imperial weight measurement.
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Wtf is a "stone"? I think my grandmother used to refer to her weight in those terms. Aren't we in 2015 now?
Most people in Australia still refer to their height in feet, how is that any different?
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What about tyres, metric, metric, imperial - 245/35/19
Then put in air with imperial measurement also - psi
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Wtf is a "stone"? I think my grandmother used to refer to her weight in those terms. Aren't we in 2015 now?
Well it is an English article where they still use pounds and stones for body weight.

You didn't comment on the fact that they also use '£' in their monetary system despite it being 2015
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Well it is an English article where they still use pounds and stones for body weight.

You didn't comment on the fact that they also use '£' in their monetary system despite it being 2015
And MPH for speed. The imperial "Ton" is far better than 100 clicks.
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8 and a half stone is about 54kg
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Old 16-10-2015, 03:42 AM   #16
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I'm pretty sure that the USA is the only country left on earth that still uses imperial, and they use pounds, not stone.

By the way, my car weighs 240 stone. I just learned this today.
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Pretty sure the UK measures in Stone still.
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I just checked a few UK car sites. They all list vehicle curb weight in kg, not stone.
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large weight like that ... yeah I think they use kilo ... but personal/human weights have heard stone used.
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I still have a very clear memory of people being weight in stones and pounds.

I started playing Rugby League in the 4 stone 7's. (28.5kg)

You've all made me feel old.
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Is this a thread about Schumacher or has it turned into a unit-conversion discussion?
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I'm not sure how they get the headline 'F1 legend is improving' when the only quote in the article says 'he's still fighting'.

I hope it's true and I know miracles happen but if he still can't walk or talk the chances of a meaningful recovery doesn't look good.
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i visited someone in the brain injury rehab for some time years ago , , and some people there had the most terrible horrific injuries, if you saw them on the street you would say, not a hope in hell can that person still be alive , let alone talk and do stuff like the rest of us , but some do, the human body is an amazing thing , maybe one day Michael will just wake up and start talking as if nothing happened ..........hopefully that will be the case anyway.
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i visited someone in the brain injury rehab for some time years ago , , and some people there had the most terrible horrific injuries, if you saw them on the street you would say, not a hope in hell can that person still be alive , let alone talk and do stuff like the rest of us , but some do, the human body is an amazing thing , maybe one day Michael will just wake up and start talking as if nothing happened ..........hopefully that will be the case anyway.
He has the best medical attention money can buy.
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Newspapers should be very careful reporting, and not raise false expectations and report things that may be hurtful to Schumis family.

As I said before, with traumatic brain injuries the major recovery is in the first 18 months, by 24 months what your state is unfortunately at that time is what your are likely to remain with.

I managed a portfolio of catastrophic motor / train/general injured people, brain injuries sometimes coupled with paraplegia and quadriplegia sometimes ventilated quads. By 2 years, you knew what you were facing in terms of permanent impairment and life management requirements with a catastrophic brain injured person.

Schumi is now in that cycle of lifetime care management, which would involve rostered 24 hour nursing staff, at least 1 nurse and 1 attendant carer at any one time to assist with transfers etc. This is what the best care is now engaged with- prevention of livedo and respiratory/urinary infections.

His wife wanting privacy is code for leave us alone to manage Schumi in privacy. I really feel for her and hope she gets strength from her kids.

The fact that it is reported that Schumi cries probably means that he still has cognitive recognition of his situation- awful, feel very sorry for him and his family.

Sorry for the voice of gloom, but it annoys me when sloppy reporting gives false hope. At this time the press and society should respect Schumi for what he achieved, and respect his wife and her wishes for privacy for her family to best manage their life from now on.

And Mik- I also truly hope that Schumi has some remarkable recovery- I truly do, but my experience of these injuries goes against that happening. I also agree about the human body and adaptability of humans, ie functioning with no legs etc, but the brain - 2 years in the litmus test....
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more often than not, the media don't actually care about the person or situation they are writing about. they are just putting a headline out there designed to attract 'views'.

whilst deep down i do agree that it doesn't look good, i will forever hold out hope that he improves, until the day he dies. where there is life, there is hope.
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The fact that it is reported that Schumi cries probably means that he still has cognitive recognition of his situation- awful, feel very sorry for him and his family.

If that is in fact true then that is sad beyond belief.

Schumacher was a very active man and I couldn’t believe for one minute he’d see any quality in this type of existence.

I for one would not wish to be aware the rest my life will be spent as a prisoner in a dead body.
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A friend of mine had a nasty stroke recently, at the moment she is basically dead from the nose down. Completely reliant on machines to keep her alive.
Worst thing is she's reasonably conscious, but the only communication is by blinking her eyes.
Doctors are hopeful for a reasonably recovery as she has days where she can wiggle a finger
But they are few and far between.
I would not wish this life on my worst enemy, let alone a close friend or someone as accomplished as Michael Schumacher.
It's heart breaking to deal with, and I'm not even family, I cannot imagine what Michaels family are going through.
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