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Old 09-11-2020, 01:32 PM   #241
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Trump stated he would leave the country if he lost the election.


He'll be looking for a new home to lead soon.

Hopefully we are too far down the page to be noticed.
He'll need a Country that Doesn't have reciprocal Extradition arrangements with the U.S.A.
i would Think..
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There is a concept of onus of proof. In litigation, law says that one party has to prove something, and if they do to the required level; then the onus shifts to the other party.

Problem with USA is Trump says there is fraud and the election was stolen-lots of bad things happened etc, and the uneducated dullard Republican members believe this and in their reality think it is up to the Democrats to somehow prove that this did not occur.

An Australian journalist best summed Trump up, he is a Narcissist who lives in his own reality, he was an actor who played a role in a reality tv show which was not reality by an unreality.

He makes up his own reality- and his dullard believers of his reality believed him- even regarding the Pandemic, and accepting his reality did not wear masks, and fell ill, including Trump's team including himself, Meadows, and now some 240,000 Americans dead.

Trump did not create the source of divsion in the USA and deep rooted resentments, he is a rat who smells things and simply opened the tops of all the rubbish bins to mine these veins of deep division and hatred that were already there.
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It appears from the contrast in change in tone from before the media’s announcement to after shows that many people are bandwagon jumpers. It would be interesting to see if people changed their own narrative should the voting be proven to be fraudulent and Trump stayed. I think Trump is what was needed in 2016 to shake things up. Had covid not happened to the world, he would be in for a second term. I’m not making a prediction about the voter fraud allegations, more just observing behaviour.
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Old 09-11-2020, 03:26 PM   #245
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Riddle me this then . . . . . . . . .

Why are the Republicans accepting of the results for the Senate vote, but are not accepting of the vote for the President when they are cast on the same ballot sheet? If fraud is fraud, then fraud is fraud
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The claimed voter fraud must have been really poorly done because the Democrats failed to really secure the Senate.
I've read the stories of brown paper being put up on windows of counting rooms and claims that this meant there was illegal stuff happening.
Personally after Trump got his supporters agitated and they turned up, angry and some reportedly armed I'd want the windows covered too.

Trumps claims re organised fraud by Democrats makes as much sense as the other bs theory about George Bush orchestrating 911.

Yanks love conspiracy theories and fall for them so easily. Any excuse to prepare for the end of the world or to fight back against 'the government'

The old line "If you're going to tell a lie make it a big one" is rampant over there.

My prediction is Trump may not attend Biden's inauguration or at the very least won't do a formal handover to him.
Trump's ego is way too fragile and this election defeat is eating at him. In business he's used to responding with legal threats so that's what he's doing again.
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Old 09-11-2020, 03:39 PM   #247
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Is that legit?

Just wow....

Bit like clean coal is coal removed from the ground then washed...

I only respected Trump for his dealings with North Korea.

That will only get him so far lol...

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riddle me this for trev too , if main in votes are wrong , then why did trump mail his in
ive seen this asked of trump supporters in a few vids now and so far the onle answer ive seen them offer is "its just different"
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You just couldnt make this stuff up, I feel a bit for Rudy, a once (from over here anyway) seemingly respected guy now looks like a bad B grade actor from a second rate Mafia film.
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riddle me this for trev too , if mail in votes are wrong , then why did trump mail his in
ive seen this asked of trump supporters in a few vids now and so far the onle answer ive seen them offer is "its just different"
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I've read the stories of brown paper being put up on windows of counting rooms and claims that this meant there was illegal stuff happening.
Personally after Trump got his supporters agitated and they turned up, angry and some reportedly armed I'd want the windows covered too.
Listening to interviews on ABC's News 24 and yes they did cover the windows.

According to an official there more of Trump's people were allowed into the room to watch the counting.

But all those looking through the windows was worrying and very distracting for those doing the counting, so they covered the windows.
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Listening to interviews on ABC's News 24 and yes they did cover the windows.

According to an official there more of Trump's people were allowed into the room to watch the counting.

But all those looking through the windows was worrying and very distracting for those doing the counting, so they covered the windows.
Exactly thanks
They want an accurate count with no distractions but imagine some of the crazed fools with their faces up against the windows likely banging, yelling and pointing.
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Trickle down politics spread around the world. If you think it doesn't effect us, you are as dumb as a rock.
China is going to hammer us now if Trump loses, only Trump had the guts to stand up to that dictating Communist total grub.
Biden will be out of the job within 6 months to a year and then Kamala Harris will take over and she is a hard left total moron. the USA will crash badly with a moron like that at the wheel.

All that Biden said sounded great but he is a typical polished political tu-d that comes across with well rehearsed planed speeches of dribble, just like Obama did but that's all that they have to offer.
Pushing lines of dribble, like Obama's, We Will ! that dribble truly means, You Will ! Obama did nothing for the USA in 8 years. oh he printed money devaluing the USA $ and that made ours rise. killing Holden's export to USA and all the rest.
Obama never helped the poor blacks but Trump sure did help anyone who wanted to make a go of it. the rest of the trash will just sit in their parents basement doing drugs and end up not being able to breath because they have a heart condition like old mate. that fool was a walking time bomb.
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The funniest thing in the world will be when this Sociopath, Sadist, this “Malignant Narcissist” (look that up guys), organises all of these subsequent Rallies, Court Cases etc, and his favourite person Nancy Pelosi becomes interim President after January the 20th while it’s sorted out !
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Be intetesting to see how the new president will affect us.

The Trump initiated trade war has cost Austrlia billions and jobs. Scomo has followed. Now we are also in recession due to Covid. Presumably Biden will scale back on China, wonder where we will stand?
Yes Communist China can do no wrong.

The Media truly do fear going for China's Communist dictator.
If Trump was a Communist the Media would fear him as well and would not print all the nonsense that they do.

Oh where will we stand with Communist China, To Hell with Communist China ! all dictators have to be stamped out.
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China is going to hammer us now if Trump loses, only Trump had the guts to stand up to that dictating Communist total grub.
Biden will be out of the job within 6 months to a year and then Kamala Harris will take over and she is a hard left total moron. the USA will crash badly with a moron like that at the wheel.

All that Biden said sounded great but he is a typical polished political tu-d that comes across with well rehearsed planed speeches of dribble, just like Obama did but that's all that they have to offer.
Pushing lines of dribble, like Obama's, We Will ! that dribble truly means, You Will ! Obama did nothing for the USA in 8 years. oh he printed money devaluing the USA $ and that made ours rise. killing Holden's export to USA and all the rest.
Obama never helped the poor blacks but Trump sure did help anyone who wanted to make a go of it. the rest of the trash will just sit in their parents basement doing drugs and end up not being able to breath because they have a heart condition like old mate. that fool was a walking time bomb.
Most of what you have said I've heard word for word from a couple of Trump supporters who I reckon all got it from Fox or Skynews.

I do think both Biden and Trump are too old to be running for President
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Trump saying the very same electoral system that voted him in as President - is a fraud.

I actually want to see Trump's appeal go to court. Want to see him lose the presidency. Legitimately. Twice!

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And here they are, wanting you to believe they found fraudulent ballots when they couldn't even find the correct Four Seasons!??
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So many senior Republicans coming out of the woodwork now saying it is time to concede. Romney, Bush.......I give him till Friday and he will give in.
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Just looked at the numbers. Not sure Arizon is a certain Biden win. And whats up with NC - no counting for days?
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Methinks that Trump is going to be smashed with outstanding court cases when he no longer has the protection of being President. There are many cases that have been started and haven't proceeded further as he has used the Presidency as an excuse. He may be better off seeking asylum in Ecuador.
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Methinks that Trump is going to be smashed with outstanding court cases when he no longer has the protection of being President. There are many cases that have been started and haven't proceeded further as he has used the Presidency as an excuse. He may be better off seeking asylum in Ecuador.
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Methinks that Trump is going to be smashed with outstanding court cases when he no longer has the protection of being President. There are many cases that have been started and haven't proceeded further as he has used the Presidency as an excuse. He may be better off seeking asylum in Ecuador.
Hopefully this is on top of the list.

https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein


Trump was alleged to have raped a 13 year old girl in 1994.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...awsuit-dropped

The woman dropped the lawsuit in November 2016. Two days earlier, she had been expected to appear at a news conference, but it was abruptly cancelled; her attorney, Lisa Bloom, said the woman had received threats and was too frightened to appear. Hopefully after he loses the protection of presidency, he's vile behaviour from the 80's and 90's with underage girls will be fully exposed.
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Now the election is over perhaps we could stop with the (old) unproven stories.
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So many senior Republicans coming out of the woodwork now saying it is time to concede. Romney, Bush.......I give him till Friday and he will give in.
The same Bush who won the 2000 election after challenging the result in the court and was declared the winner 40+ days post election?

I think we will be in for atleast 4-5 weeks of courtroom drama before this even looks like resolving, after all it took about that time for one state let alone four or five.
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The same Bush who won the 2000 election after challenging the result in the court and was declared the winner 40+ days post election?

I think we will be in for atleast 4-5 weeks of courtroom drama before this even looks like resolving, after all it took about that time for one state let alone four or five.
Yep - the same guy, didn't say it was not hypocritical, just when your own team comes for you it gets very hard.
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There is an animated gif / short clip floating around of Trumps concession speech.

Its bloody hilarious. It's been ripped off from a movie with Leonardo Dicaprio.

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I can't get it to display in screen like a YouTube clip.

Sound on/off is top right hand corner of clip - very hard to see.
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Trump saying the very same electoral system that voted him in as President - is a fraud.

I actually want to see Trump's appeal go to court. Want to see him lose the presidency. Legitimately. Twice!



Wow! Just wow.
And here they are, wanting you to believe they found fraudulent ballots when they couldn't even find the correct Four Seasons!??
Well if he didn’t say it in 2016, he would be a hypocrite for saying it now. But he did say it in 2016, despite winning. It was the Democrats who switched their narrative.
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I had a couple of 'wow' moments last night, the first was on the media coverage of one of Trumps speechs, it was discussed on the ABC's Media Watch last night - most MSM stopped broadcasting him half way through due to the 'lies' he was stating, one Network actually did a lead in to his press conference and said 'what you are about to hear is lies'

The 2nd 'wow' moment was on Q&A on the ABC, I haven't watched it for a couple of years but couldn't turn it off last night - Malcolm Turnbull was on fire lol

That were great discussions about Trump and Murdoch Press
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I had a couple of 'wow' moments last night, the first was on the media coverage of one of Trumps speechs, it was discussed on the ABC's Media Watch last night - most MSM stopped broadcasting him half way through due to the 'lies' he was stating, one Network actually did a lead in to his press conference and said 'what you are about to hear is lies'

The 2nd 'wow' moment was on Q&A on the ABC, I haven't watched it for a couple of years but couldn't turn it off last night - Malcolm Turnbull was on fire lol

That were great discussions about Trump and Murdoch Press
The "wow" moment should be the realisation that two prominent heads of state have yet to send their congratulations to Biden. These two heads of state were purportedly meant to have also helped Biden win through election interference. Trump was supposedly meant to have "stuck it up to em".

As to the options for Trump if the legal proceedings fail, as I said before, either a deal which involves a peaceful and orderly handover for immunity, or he'll go somewhere where he can complete the Trump Tower Moscow dream. He still has enormous power and influence in the GOP, and still has 70m followers, so he may actually stick around.

Noticed vaccine news came out over night. Chance or co-coincidence?
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