3L - 195kw, 620nm, 6.1L/100km - Build a bloody Turbo Diesel Falcon already! - Page 8

arm79 · 19-06-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kpcart

sounds like your speedo is way out, 100 in first? how far past the red line?

The first BA's were able to do just on an indicated 105km/h sitting on the redline.

Ford seemed to progressively lower the redline as time went on. Ended up being close to 95km/h.

Was really trippy being able to set the cruise on 100km/hin first driving down a freeway...

Franco Cozzo · 19-06-2011, 01:38 PM

There was rumours ages ago they tried a diesel version of the Barra, where they just rumours?

I wonder why it didnt go ahead.

vztrt · 19-06-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

There was rumours ages ago they tried a diesel version of the Barra, where they just rumours?

I wonder why it didnt go ahead.

Engine was to expensive to produce.

Falc'man · 20-06-2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kpcart

why are you rating an engine by how quick you can drive your car in a quarter mile? no one cares about that with a 6 cylinder enigine. i started this thread to discuss a diesel alternative for a falcon. i know people want diesels, and none of them would care about the quarter mile time, my $1500 motorcycle, can do sub 12 quarter mile, that doesnt make it great either.

Why did ask about my speedo if this threads about diesels, then three minutes later you ask why I'm talking about a 6 cyl when the thread's about diesels?
To answer your useless question I was having a discussion with Buntz93ED so mind your own business.

Buntz · 20-06-2011, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Falc'man

Why did ask about my speedo if this threads about diesels, then three minutes later you ask why I'm talking about a 6 cyl when the thread's about diesels?
To answer your useless question I was having a discussion with Buntz93ED so mind your own business.

Which model do falcon are you running btw?

Road_Warrior · 20-06-2011, 01:01 AM

I could forsee the Geelong engine plant making a go at producing the Territory's 2.7 TDCi as a replacement for the trusty I6. The 2.7 oil burner would be a much more relevant engine for the Falcon going forward than the I6 as people seem to be obsessed with economy and torque - both things that engine would deliver in spades if it was fitted to future Falcons...

Buntz · 20-06-2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

I could forsee the Geelong engine plant making a go at producing the Territory's 2.7 TDCi as a replacement for the trusty I6. The 2.7 oil burner would be a much more relevant engine for the Falcon going forward than the I6 as people seem to be obsessed with economy and torque - both things that engine would deliver in spades if it was fitted to future Falcons...

It's what LPG is for.

Aussies have shown they will fork out for the LPG, and they have good resale rates.

LiLPG is Ford's way forward now. And EcoBoost of course. Let's not dirty our favourite sedan with a truck engine. Let's look forward to the moment they whack another turbo on the 2.7 for territory... to keep it fresh and vigorous.

Falc'man · 20-06-2011, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

Which model do falcon are you running btw?

Careful, someone might have a go at you for being off-topic. It's a BF.

Road_Warrior · 20-06-2011, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

It's what LPG is for.

Aussies have shown they will fork out for the LPG, and they have good resale rates.

LiLPG is Ford's way forward now. And EcoBoost of course. Let's not dirty our favourite sedan with a truck engine. Let's look forward to the moment they whack another turbo on the 2.7 for territory... to keep it fresh and vigorous.

I was referring to post-2015 when the I6 is retired.

Buntz · 20-06-2011, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Falc'man

Careful, someone might have a go at you for being off-topic. It's a BF.

I'm gonna have to see what mine does when I take it for a long run tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

I was referring to post-2015 when the I6 is retired.

LiLPG 3.7L V6.

Ford will have to bring the I6 up to Emissions V.... so we may see them hold off on retiring the engine, if they can make it more fuel efficient than the yankee engines.

It could happen.

b0son · 20-06-2011, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

Ford will have to bring the I6 up to Emissions V.... so we may see them hold off on retiring the engine, if they can make it more fuel efficient than the yankee engines.

Who's paying? Wasnt it the government most recently? With carbon taxes and more pandering to greens over the next few years, I doubt the government will be keen to fund anything to do with big engines.

Buntz · 20-06-2011, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Who's paying? Wasnt it the government most recently? With carbon taxes and more pandering to greens over the next few years, I doubt the government will be keen to fund anything to do with big engines.

That's not the point. It's jobs. Local skills. Local manufacturer.

The government will throw in a bit. They can call it a 'green initiative', and count the lives of saved polar bears. but the fact remains. The engine is here till 2016 at least. And the new emissions laws will be in before that. So Ford will have to bring it up to scratch.

That should mean the last will be the best ever built.

Bossxr8 · 20-06-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

That's not the point. It's jobs. Local skills. Local manufacturer.

The government will throw in a bit. They can call it a 'green initiative', and count the lives of saved polar bears. but the fact remains. The engine is here till 2016 at least. And the new emissions laws will be in before that. So Ford will have to bring it up to scratch.

That should mean the last will be the best ever built.

If you read the new emissions regs, engines only need to be Euro 5 if a new model is released after November 2013, if its introduced before that date it can stay Euro 4 until 2016.

Ford have pencilled in the FG's last update in 2013, no doubt before November so they will not ever need to make the I6 Euro 5 until its probably replaced by a Euro 6 compliant V6 in 2016.

Its like these new regs were designed to suit Ford, and due to the government consultation that the manufacturers were asked to provide, it probably was.

Buntz · 20-06-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

If you read the new emissions regs, engines only need to be Euro 5 if a new model is released after November 2013, if its introduced before that date it can stay Euro 4 until 2016.

Ford have pencilled in the FG's last update in 2013, no doubt before November so they will not ever need to make the I6 Euro 5 until its probably replaced by a Euro 6 compliant V6 in 2016.

Its like these new regs were designed to suit Ford, and due to the government consultation that the manufacturers were asked to provide, it probably was.

Well that just makes me sad Boss. That just makes me sad.