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Old 10-08-2018, 03:28 PM   #31
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For the first time in probably half a century Ford finally have their **** together and are building better cars then ever before and all we can do is complain about the name of this car.

It’s not a performance car, it doesn’t need a tough name or a name rehashed from the 80’s. It looks to be an amazing car. The only thing Ford can do wrong is price itself out of the market. The name of the car won’t mean a thing.
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Old 10-08-2018, 10:00 PM   #32
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according to existing model specs, its wider than most other SUV's
That must be why it looks good. Wide cars look cool. Narrow cars looks weird and dopey imo.

175kw, why though
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I think the idea was that rather than launch the older model then update it within a short period of time, Ford preferred to wait for the face-lifted model and start from a relative clean slate.

I feel your frustration though. It is a massive gap in the Ford lineup, and isn't really a Territory replacement either because it lacks the 7 seat layout. And this from the brand that is focusing on SUV's
Just as you stated, Ford Aust have waited for the updated model with more powerful engine and new 8 speed auto. Would have been a bit of negative publicity to release the older version and within a 1.5years offer a much improved model. Some initial sales lost but a much better vehicle to come later....not to mention it also gave the Canada plant more time to lift it's game.

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Old 11-08-2018, 11:26 AM   #34
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You do realise those BMW's are a lot smaller
I agree with you. But itís a tuff industry. Look at how popular Hyundai and Kia suvís Are. There well priced and look good. Thatís why people buy them. There is just too much choice out there. And even Bmw make a entry level x5 2wd 2.0 turbo diesel. If the endura is $45000 then yes people will see value. Look at what happened with Everest. Poor sales and they have reduced the price and brought out entry level models. It needs to be well priced or it will end up welded to the show room floor.
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In the 1980s, I vaguely recall stickers on Ford Lasers saying ďProudly built, by the people at Ford AustraliaĒ , or something to that effect. I guess thatís when Australian pride actually existed, and we didnít need to hand third world holes our jobs, careers and industries on a silver platter...
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:12 PM   #36
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Can't be any worse than Kuga can it? haha.
Kuga would be fine, if they spelled it correctly, ie COUGAR
as it is, i call it KUG-a
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In NZ the Toyota Highlander (what we call a kluger) sells new for $63,490 RRP to $81,490 RRP & fuel prices are ridiculous!!
Yeah I rented a new Highlander when I was over there a few weeks ago.
Base model V6 Amarok starts at $69,990 + onroads compared to $52,990 driveaway over here.
Petrol was $2.30 a litre for 95 octane!
Despite the above I would happily live down in the south western part of the South Island if I could convince my wife to move.
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Just as you stated, Ford Aust have waited for the updated model with more powerful engine and new 8 speed auto. Would have been a bit of negative publicity to release the older version and within a 1.5years offer a much improved model. Some initial sales lost but a much better vehicle to come later....not to mention it also gave the Canada plant more time to lift it's game.
i don't understand that logic,
what would be wrong with offering the gen 1 UK diesel Edge with 6AT and 6MT from get go?
One and a half years lost sales not getting people used to Endura and then rolling into upgraded version?

I think it was all about Ford giving Everest clean air to fly but even now, it doesn't sell as well as Prado...

I wonder why.
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I think it was all about Ford giving Everest clean air to fly but even now, it doesn't sell as well as Prado...

I wonder why.
Doesn't the Everest sell as well as the other 4x4 ute based wagons with the exception of the MUX?
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:41 PM   #40
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In NZ the Toyota Highlander (what we call a kluger) sells new for $63,490 RRP to $81,490 RRP & fuel prices are ridiculous!!
Yeah nah $54,990 - $71,990 drive away.
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Bring the Explorer and F-Truck over to complete the family, and scrap the third world Everest. Then Iíll visit a ford dealer. Nothing in the range is exciting to drive or own, bar the mustang and even thatís debatable
Everest is a proper off roader. Something the others arenít. Occupies a different space.
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Yeah nah $54,990 - $71,990 drive away.
I just grabbed the prices from Autotrader.
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I agree with you. But itís a tuff industry. Look at how popular Hyundai and Kia suvís Are. There well priced and look good. Thatís why people buy them. There is just too much choice out there. And even Bmw make a entry level x5 2wd 2.0 turbo diesel. If the endura is $45000 then yes people will see value. Look at what happened with Everest. Poor sales and they have reduced the price and brought out entry level models. It needs to be well priced or it will end up welded to the show room floor.
Yeah its competitive, but you need to compare like for like.
For example you mention Hyundai and Kia suvís
So dont compare the Endura to a Tuscon or a Kia soul(x1 size).

You will find the Sorento & Santa fe in a similar price bracket, and the Endura promises to be better, so sorry I don't see where your coming from.

PS Sante fe is not a cheap car anymore.
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Bring the Explorer and F-Truck over to complete the family, and scrap the third world Everest. Then I’ll visit a ford dealer. Nothing in the range is exciting to drive or own, bar the mustang and even that’s debatable
Complete the family yes but don't discount next gen Everest now that the yanks are on board,
some new and interesting tech will be showcased by Bronco and hopefully make it to Everest.

Hybrid and PHEV wil feature heavily in Explorer/Bronco, we shouldn't discount that in NG vehicles.
3.3 V6 Hybrid and 3.0 EB V6 PHEV is maybe a way of having your cake and eating it too..
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I think it was all about Ford giving Everest clean air to fly but even now, it doesn't sell as well as Prado...

I wonder why.
They don't build that many everests in comparison to Rangers in Thailand.
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Donít know if this has been posted, but Ford Oz released a teaser video on their YouTube account of the Ford Endura

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Donít know if this has been posted, but Ford Oz released a teaser video on their YouTube account of the Ford Endura

Ford Endura ST-Line
Good looking car. Pity we had to urgently get a new car, if we had more time I'd have had a look at the ST Endura, though in saying that the CX5 is a great car too.
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Toyota wouldn't let them use Edge since apparently they own it, so it's called Endura now.

Can't be any worse than Kuga can it? haha.
Could use Falcon .. they aren't using that.
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Could use Falcon .. they aren't using that.
Good thinking!
Maybe do a swap with Toyota?
Give us the Edge rights and you can have Falcon rights?
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Think I'll order Edge badges from the US.
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Would have bought this but Australia is not getting the petrol 6 clinder. Wife refuses to drive a four cylinder turbo...
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Long time lurker here. Saw a brand new white Ford Edge/Endura on the road up here in Port Stephens (NSW) today. I realised what it was straight away as I've spent the past 3 months in Canada and saw heaps of them on the road there.

I didn't catch the registration plates on it but I'm guessing it must be a part of a fleet of cars that Ford staff are using for final testing, just like Holden are doing with the GMC Acadia.

It is definitely not the same size as the Kluger, especially boot space. I'd say it would be closer to the medium size segment than large SUV but they are definitely a nice looking car in the flesh.
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Long time lurker here. Saw a brand new white Ford Edge/Endura on the road up here in Port Stephens (NSW) today. I realised what it was straight away as I've spent the past 3 months in Canada and saw heaps of them on the road there.

I didn't catch the registration plates on it but I'm guessing it must be a part of a fleet of cars that Ford staff are using for final testing, just like Holden are doing with the GMC Acadia.

It is definitely not the same size as the Kluger, especially boot space. I'd say it would be closer to the medium size segment than large SUV but they are definitely a nice looking car in the flesh.
Good work Tusk,

Iíve seen a blue Endura here in Victoria, 5 seats will be fine for us, but 7 would be best.
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Good work Tusk,

Iíve seen a blue Endura here in Victoria, 5 seats will be fine for us, but 7 would be best.
would it be the same as in youtube mentioned earlier.
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would it be the same as in youtube mentioned earlier.

I think it may be Tonz

I imagine that ST line Endura is driving around as a preproduction media car.
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Long time lurker here. Saw a brand new white Ford Edge/Endura on the road up here in Port Stephens (NSW) today. I realised what it was straight away as I've spent the past 3 months in Canada and saw heaps of them on the road there.

It is definitely not the same size as the Kluger, especially boot space. I'd say it would be closer to the medium size segment than large SUV but they are definitely a nice looking car in the flesh.
Kluger 1730H x 1925W x 4865L - boot space 529L
Endura 1734H x 1928W x 4779L - boot space 602L

Apart from 86mm in length the Endura is pretty much the same size you may have seen an Escape?


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Territory 1676H x 1898W x 4856L
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https://www.ford.co.nz/suv/endura/

starting price $69,990 + ORC. Tell em they're dreaming!
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starting price $69,990 + ORC. Tell em they're dreaming!
Thatís the 2018 model and not the 2019 MCA we are getting.
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Yep I leaned NZ have the current model imported from Canada, which may have something to do with its price.
regardless of price Ford Australia have nothing in this segment since the departure of the Territory
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