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Old 13-11-2019, 08:56 AM   #1
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Default Carsales 2019 car of the Year

The BMW 3 Series is the carsales Car of the Year for 2019.

But not one of the judges who arrived to decide the 2019 carsales Car of the Year presented by Shell V-Power expected the BMW 3 Series to win at the outset.

Sure, all 12 judges rated the BMW 330i sedan highly, with the potential for a podium place, but nobody expected it to romp home by a clear margin at the head of the 28-car field of finalists.


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COTY gongs should always be accepted with a degree of reservation… The JB Camira received Wheels’ anointing in ‘82.
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Wheels COTY history - this years award Volvo XC40 (I've never even seen one..)
1963 Renault 8
1964 Morris 1100
1965 Ford XP Falcon
1966 Ford XR Falcon[a]
1967 Chrysler VE Valiant
1968 Holden HK Monaro[b]
1969 Holden LC Torana
1970 Renault 12
1971 Chrysler VH Valiant Charger
1972 – award withheld
1973 Leyland P76 V8[c]
1974 Volkswagen Passat (B1)
1975 Holden TX Gemini
1976 Volkswagen Golf Mk1
1977 Honda Accord[d]
1978 Holden VB Commodore
1979 – award withheld
1980 Mazda 323 (BD)
1981 Mercedes-Benz 380 SE (W126)[e]
1982 Holden JB Camira
1983 Mazda 626 (GC) and Ford AR Telstar[f]
1984 Mitsubishi Nimbus[g]
1985 Mitsubishi TM Magna
1986 – award withheld
1987 Honda Prelude
1988 Holden VN Commodore
1989 Mazda MX-5 (NA)[h]
1990 Lexus LS 400 (XF10)
1991 Honda NSX and Nissan Pulsar (N14)[i]
1992 Mazda 626 (GE) and Ford AX Telstar[f]
1993 Holden VR Commodore
1994 Subaru Liberty
1995 Honda Odyssey
1996 Mitsubishi TE Magna/KE Verada
1997 Holden VT Commodore
1998 Subaru Liberty
1999 Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W220)
2000 Subaru Impreza
2001 Holden XC Barina
2002 Ford BA Falcon
2003 Mazda RX-8[j]
2004 Ford SX Territory[k]
2005 Mazda MX-5 (NC)
2006 Holden VE Calais[l]
2007 Mercedes-Benz C-Class (W204)
2008 Honda Accord Euro
2009 Volkswagen Golf Mk6
2010 Volkswagen Polo Mk5
2011 Honda CR-Z[m]
2012 Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ[f]
2013 Volkswagen Golf Mk7
2014 BMW i3
2015 – temporal basis for award changed
2016 Mazda MX-5 (ND)
2017 Mazda CX-9
2018 Volvo XC60
2019 Volvo XC40
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COTY gongs should always be accepted with a degree of reservation… The JB Camira received Wheels’ anointing in ‘82.
Very true in some case's but not this one.
Been in a few of them and "sheer driving pleasure" rings true.
A welcome return and job well done by Bimmer.
Took their eye off the ball and Audi more so than MB relegated the 3Series for sometime but their last few model upgrades you could see it coming back to the front.
Love 3series from way back having a E21 - I'll be back in a bimmer in the future.
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COTY gongs should always be accepted with a degree of reservation… The JB Camira received Wheels’ anointing in ‘82.
But there's no comparison, one's a Supercar and the others a Beemer....

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I was stirring when dragging up the Camira.

Simply not a fan of BMWs, moreso after that horrible 330Ci car-sitting experience earlier this year - it was expiring from a combination of age and aspirational purchase (cf chronic neglect).
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COTY gongs should always be accepted with a degree of reservation… The JB Camira received Wheels’ anointing in ‘82.
Careful, I had a Camira "way back when" for a While.. LOL
Wasn't Bad car either, certainly no long distance Tourer, Though

Bought at the Auctions for $800 drove it around for 6-8 months & sold it for $1500..
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Don’t really hear much bad about BMW like you do about Mercedes.
I’d go a 2019 340i wagon if it ever came to Australia. The wagon looks great.
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Maybe they got a big advertising cheque, that’s how these things are normally sorted, anyone thinking these awards aren’t influenced by financial lubrication is kidding themselves.
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Maybe they got a big advertising cheque, that’s how these things are normally sorted, anyone thinking these awards aren’t influenced by financial lubrication is kidding themselves.
Did this also occur in 2002 & 2004?
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Did this also occur in 2002 & 2004?
It's all a huge conspiracy with some people. Thought there would be applause for a mid size sedan winning it instead of a SUV or Hybrid.
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You can't retrospectively look at awards years later and ask how did such a pile of crap win COTY - remember when it won the award they were all fresh off the showroom floor, it takes years for problems to start occuring unless you get a lemon.
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You can't retrospectively look at awards years later and ask how did such a pile of crap win COTY - remember when it won the award they were all fresh off the showroom floor, it takes years for problems to start occuring unless you get a lemon.
Nah, the problems start as soon as BMer's leave the show room, possibly the worst depreciation of any vehicle. Also my neighbours brand new 430 has had numerous visits back to the dealer, POS.
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Heyyyyyyy ... stop picking on the Camira.
It survived my driving on P-plates.

The key to keeping them running good is thrashing the hell out of them. They go to crap when you baby them. Trust me ... I know from experience.
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But there's no comparison, one's a Supercar and the others a Beemer....

I see what you did there
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Heyyyyyyy ... stop picking on the Camira.
It survived my driving on P-plates.

The key to keeping them running good is thrashing the hell out of them. They go to crap when you baby them. Trust me ... I know from experience.
That sounds like wine review journalism. “Best enjoyed sideways with friends”...
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oooooh ... that's a good slogan for a bumper sticker.
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Did this also occur in 2002 & 2004?
Probably, I'd say most mags would say anything for the right price...even some 4x4 editions...
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It survived my driving on P-plates.

The key to keeping them running good is thrashing the hell out of them. They go to crap when you baby them. Trust me ... I know from experience.
The JE was ok with the 2.0i, in-laws had one when I met them and it just kept going, learned to drive in it.
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Nah, the problems start as soon as BMer's leave the show room, possibly the worst depreciation of any vehicle. Also my neighbours brand new 430 has had numerous visits back to the dealer, POS.
Every new car depreciates the moment you drive it off the dealership floor and your singular example of your neighbors experience is the exception, not the rule.
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Nah, the problems start as soon as BMer's leave the show room, possibly the worst depreciation of any vehicle. Also my neighbours brand new 430 has had numerous visits back to the dealer, POS.
Normally I'd agree, but one of the criteria was resale value, they said the BMW performed well in this aspect.
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I do question Wheels choosing the XC40 for 2019 going back to back for Volvo.
surely if they are a great car they would sell well, can anybody tell us how many XC40's sell per month?
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I do question Wheels choosing the XC40 for 2019 going back to back for Volvo.
surely if they are a great car they would sell well, can anybody tell us how many XC40's sell per month?


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Every new car depreciates the moment you drive it off the dealership floor and your singular example of your neighbors experience is the exception, not the rule.
Bravo Franco parlato moulto bene !
Seriously cheap - obviously you don't like bimmers ? but no matter, I don't know which branded euro holds great re sale for they all lose a bomb faster than burning the fuel.
Family has had Bimmers/MB's/audi's over many years, some have been trouble free some have been utter rubbish - what brand doesn't have its good and bad builds.
One prestige brand that probably comes out better than them all is the Lexus, if it was a euro brand I expect they would be No1 - for they seem to hang together better and the depreciation is not as a monstrous hit than those above.
Old man got one after getting sick and tired of the euros, can't fault it for an expensive white goods lol.....
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Normally I'd agree, but one of the criteria was resale value, they said the BMW performed well in this aspect.
Real world, 2nd hand BMers sink in value. Once they are out of factory warranty they plummet. Carsales couldn’t care less much. Ownership ends in tears with the rock bottom trade in valuations.
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Real world, 2nd hand BMers sink in value. Once they are out of factory warranty they plummet. Carsales couldn’t care less much. Ownership ends in tears with the rock bottom trade in valuations.
The issue is lack of local knowledge on how to fix them as well as expensive parts which is why they're worth less than the goldies in your cup holders.

Give it another 15 years as the popularity increases further, local auto tradies will know how to correctly diagnose and repair faults and parts will come down in price.

Welch Autoparts, Imparts and HSY Autoparts are Euro aftermarket parts specialists - Repco/Burson need not apply.

I'm no Euro fanboy, though I did own an E38 735iL affectionately nicknamed 'Adolf' - it crapped out it's timing chain guides at 130,000km.
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Real world, 2nd hand BMers sink in value. Once they are out of factory warranty they plummet. Carsales couldn’t care less much. Ownership ends in tears with the rock bottom trade in valuations.
I'm well aware I'm attracted to the purchase price of some of those 2nd hand SUVs.
But I think that's changing particularly in these smaller sedans. even today's Camry has enough tech to be expensive once out of warranty.
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The issue is lack of local knowledge on how to fix them as well as expensive parts which is why they're worth less than the goldies in your cup holders.

Give it another 15 years as the popularity increases further, local auto tradies will know how to correctly diagnose and repair faults and parts will come down in price.

Welch Autoparts, Imparts and HSY Autoparts are Euro aftermarket parts specialists - Repco/Burson need not apply.

I'm no Euro fanboy, though I did own an E38 735iL affectionately nicknamed 'Adolf' - it crapped out it's timing chain guides at 130,000km.
Repco have purchased welsh auto parts and parts can be bought at your local ripco
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Well, there you go, another one falls to GPC Asia Pacific.
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I do question Wheels choosing the XC40 for 2019 going back to back for Volvo.
surely if they are a great car they would sell well, can anybody tell us how many XC40's sell per month?
https://www.caradvice.com.au/806867/...ing-australia/

"...... but a full year of XC40 small SUV sales (2466 sales this year, up from 1200) has really pushed the brand to a higher echelon locally."
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