Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > Club and Speciality Forums > Forum Community Car Clubs > AU Falcon.com.au

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 19-12-2005, 11:41 PM   #1
00falcon
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7
Default Noisy Handbrake

Hi Guys,
Just wondered if any as had the same problem? I have a "squealing" noise coming from the right rear wheel, apon further examination, I have found it to be coming from the brake pads attached to the handbrake cable inside the rear disc assembly.

When driving if I put the handbreak on and off, it periodically removes the noise for some time. But it has gotten to the point that my handbreak no longer works.

Can anyone shed some light on a solution. I have tried having the cable tightened and have had a few mechanics have a look at it, but it has not solved the problem.

Regards,
00falcon

00falcon is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-12-2005, 11:51 PM   #2
Casper
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Contributing Member
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,083
Default

let me guess, AU falcon with IRS right?
__________________
Older, wiser, poorer.


Now in Euro-Trash. VW Coupe V6 4motion.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 12:03 AM   #3
00falcon
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7
Default

Yes, you guess it. Au series I XR8..........My baby needs help.........Plus it's really embarrassing driving through car parks at slow speed :lookedat:.
00falcon is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 12:04 AM   #4
Casper
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Contributing Member
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,083
Default

Want the good news or the bad news?

Good news.. your not alone.. we all have the same issue with IRS
Bad news... I havent found a fix for it yet. Its either no handbrake or "Squeeky"
__________________
Older, wiser, poorer.


Now in Euro-Trash. VW Coupe V6 4motion.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 01:13 AM   #5
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,699
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

I'm with Casper on this one. I replaced the inner brake shoes about 3 weeks ago, and it's all been quiet on the right rear until yesterday. Now the squeak is back, and i know it won't go away!
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, ShockWorks and GT335 replicas in 19 x 8.5 & 9.5 35p offset with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, FG 19” Lux packs with 245/35/19 Toyo and Pirelli tyres, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 01:52 AM   #6
stiddy
Banned
 
stiddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Beaumont Hills
Posts: 2,536
Default

not just IRS, i have live beam and i get this same squeak...
stiddy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 10:41 AM   #7
AnthonyQLD
Boss power
 
AnthonyQLD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,046
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stiddy
not just IRS, i have live beam and i get this same squeak...
Same here.
AnthonyQLD is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 10:44 AM   #8
Lightning Strike GT
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Lightning Strike GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: QLD
Posts: 1,255
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 00falcon
Yes, you guess it. Au series I XR8..........My baby needs help.........Plus it's really embarrassing driving through car parks at slow speed :lookedat:.
Gavin Gavin Gavin

The only way to mostly eliminate the dreaded squeek even heard over the exhaust
Take it to FORD and get them to fix it they have the propper adjustment skills and tools, best $50 I spent for piece of mind
It was sending me postal out:
__________________
Regards Alan
FG GT in Lightning Strike
5th anniversary edition in manual 1 of 25
And an 2019 MD Mondeo Trend Wagon in Platinum White
Lightning Strike GT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 11:25 AM   #9
Autocade
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 154
Default Noisy Handbrake

I have had this as an ongoing issue now for over 4 years
first noticed about 10000 ks and has been back in to Ford service approx 6 times
So far they have replaced the cable and rear rotors once and the hand brake shoes and clips twice
They fix it and then after about 1000 Ks it starts again
It have been told by Ford service that they are unable to adjust the shoes sufficiently to clear the rotors because of their shape
It was fixed again recently and now is worse than it has ever been
I live in the hope that somebody may find a fix but knowing my luck it will be just after i sell it
Autocade is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 11:29 AM   #10
nat_daly
Nat D
 
nat_daly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,131
Default

yeah got this problem too... got the handrbake cable tightened also now its back to not working.. it still squeaks
nat_daly is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 02:21 PM   #11
HP Dude
Tickford Rules!
 
HP Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 137
Default

Wow, this thread has brought a tear to my eye: I thought I was the only one suffering in silence (NOT).
__________________
Tickford Rules! :eclipsee_

1969 Ford Fairmont XW
1999 AU I Falcon XR6HP
1999 AU I Falcon XR8 (sold)
2007 Mitsubishi Evolution IX
2009 Lotus Elise S
HP Dude is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 02:23 PM   #12
HP Dude
Tickford Rules!
 
HP Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 137
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by 00falcon
Yes, you guess it. Au series I XR8..........My baby needs help.........Plus it's really embarrassing driving through car parks at slow speed :lookedat:.

YES IT IS!!!!!
__________________
Tickford Rules! :eclipsee_

1969 Ford Fairmont XW
1999 AU I Falcon XR6HP
1999 AU I Falcon XR8 (sold)
2007 Mitsubishi Evolution IX
2009 Lotus Elise S
HP Dude is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 20-12-2005, 03:48 PM   #13
aualright
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 368
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 00falcon
Yes, you guess it. Au series I XR8..........My baby needs help.........Plus it's really embarrassing driving through car parks at slow speed :lookedat:.
My AUIII ute with live axle also has had this sound since early on and they can't do anything except apply an 'anti-squeal' compound. My idiot of a Ford dealer replaced wheel bearings, etc before coming up with this non-solution - after a few weeks the squeal returns.

I drive through my housing estate and I can feel all the holdenites laughing at me for buying a Ford.

BTW - my AU XR8 doesn't have this sound.
aualright is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 06:55 PM   #14
AuFairlaneV8
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 216
Default

the squealin sound at low speeds or no handbrake....I have the same problem:( .....so no one has a solution to this??
AuFairlaneV8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 07:09 PM   #15
BJMXR
Regular Member
 
BJMXR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North East Melbourne
Posts: 262
Default

Yep... me too...

looks like were all going to have to live with it... damn...
__________________
AUII XR8 - 200kw
Factory Body Kit & 17" Tickford Rims
5 spd Manual
Lowered on King SL & SSL
KONI "Yellows" Fully Adjustable Shocks
2.5in Stainless Herrods Cat back
Black Leather Interior
BJMXR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 07:16 PM   #16
galaxy xr8
Giddy up.
 
galaxy xr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Kramerica Industries.
Posts: 15,608
Default

I must be one off the lucky one's, mine doesn't do this, finger's crossed for the future though.
galaxy xr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 08:04 PM   #17
Mechan1k
Moderator
Donating Member1
 
Mechan1k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kenthurst
Posts: 40,358
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Brings a wealth of knowledge to the forums and is frequently giving helpful advice. Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Always willing to help out with technical information. 
Default

My handbrake is near non-existant ... cos i need my rotors and pads on the rear ... handbrake cable is adjusted to it's full extent.

Next year it will be attended to when I get the 330mm slotted discs/4-pot calipers/braided lines up front and new standard-size slottted rotors on the rear.

Still figuring out what ads to use though ... I think it might be EBC Blackstuff though (I am not doing track work and the ute is underpowered as it is).
Mechan1k is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 08:20 PM   #18
Abacus
Life's a Gas
 
Abacus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,029
Default

Mine makes this sound. It's a total bastard.

The sound stopped a couple of months ago when I put the car in for its one and only service at a Ford dealer. They certainly stopped the squeaking, but they also stopped the handbrake holding the car on any incline at all.

So I took it to a local grease monkey. The handbrake works fine now - but the squeal is back.

And before people say I should have taken it back to Ford to get them to fix it properly - the truth is I just couldn't be bothered. I would have to leave the car with them all day and organise other transport, and it is just more trouble than its worth. And even then, there is no guarantee that they would fix it properly.

One day I'll get the car serviced again, or it'll need something else fixed, and I'll get whoever does the work to look at the handbrake as well. Perusal of these forums indicates that the problem is basically unfixable, unless you're fortunate enough to find one of the very few guys with just the right "touch".

In the meantime it just complements the squeaks and squeals from my Ferodo Excel brake pads. I've got a virtual symphony orchestra happening at the moment.
Abacus is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 08:29 PM   #19
HLC
Audi S3
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney.
Posts: 8,307
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stiddy
not just IRS, i have live beam and i get this same squeak...
ditto. when i first got the car i was like YES! no squeel like on my mums 'lane. a week later *squeeeeeel*
__________________
HLC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 09:08 PM   #20
Casper
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Contributing Member
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,083
Default

could be worse guys.. we could have headgasket issues :
__________________
Older, wiser, poorer.


Now in Euro-Trash. VW Coupe V6 4motion.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 10:31 PM   #21
dinga
???
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Penrith ,NSW
Posts: 36
Default

I have no handbrake, no squeak, but a hugh rattle from the back end.....

It's at the point where I think the whole drive train is going to be picked up by the car behind me.

I've had the my rear suspension replaced (new upper bushes as well) but the rattle is still there. Could this be the IRS diff on the way out or rear wheel bearing's or something else?

Please help, or the car will be traded....
dinga is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 10:39 PM   #22
Casper
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Contributing Member
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,083
Default

check the casing of the IRS where the gears are... they have been know to get a tad loose sometimes if your unlucky.
__________________
Older, wiser, poorer.


Now in Euro-Trash. VW Coupe V6 4motion.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 11:23 PM   #23
Baboon_AU
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Baboon_AU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 570
Default

mine squeaked at low speeds so i jacked the car up and spun both wheels and no squeak...i drive again at low speads and it squeaks again... so i jack car up, take both rear wheels off, take that stupid dusk protector off and take the calipers off and then handbrake drum off too.
i banged it on the ground and washed with water from house and put them back nice and clean...this seems to solve the problem for me,, its just a dust build up i think.
i have never had problems with my handbrake, it works like a dream.

if you guys really dont want the squeal you can always invest in anti squeal, not sure how long it works for but?
__________________
01 AUII XLS Regency Red Ute 4.0L Egas Auto
Mods -transcooler, tickford intake, K&N pod filter, Pacemakers, 2.5 inch exhaust, Crow Cam,

1981 XD Fairmont 351 - 351 Cleveland, ARP bolts, flat top pistons, Stage 3 Dynotec cam, ported 2V heads with 4V valves, Roller Rockers, Weiand manifold, Mighty Demon, 1/2" fuel lines with blue Holley fuel pump, Crane hi-6 ignition, B&M megashifter, C4, hi-stall, shift kit, 3.77 Ford 9" LSD.

Thanks to: EvilChief and SJW Performance
Baboon_AU is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 11:24 PM   #24
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,699
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Guys, the squealing brakes are not isolated to AUs. I have heard BAs and Holdens including Calais and Stateman. It is just the nature of the type of system used - it sucks, but until someone can find a mechanic that can cure it every single time, I'm afraid it's just something we have to put up with.
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, ShockWorks and GT335 replicas in 19 x 8.5 & 9.5 35p offset with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, FG 19” Lux packs with 245/35/19 Toyo and Pirelli tyres, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-12-2005, 10:57 AM   #25
Autocade
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 154
Default

I believe Ford won an award for the design of this handbrake system rofl
Autocade is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-12-2005, 02:46 PM   #26
aualright
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 368
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baboon_AU
mine squeaked at low speeds so i jacked the car up and spun both wheels and no squeak...i drive again at low speads and it squeaks again... so i jack car up, take both rear wheels off, take that stupid dusk protector off and take the calipers off and then handbrake drum off too.
i banged it on the ground and washed with water from house and put them back nice and clean...this seems to solve the problem for me,, its just a dust build up i think.
i have never had problems with my handbrake, it works like a dream.

if you guys really dont want the squeal you can always invest in anti squeal, not sure how long it works for but?
the anti-squal lasts about a month.....I had it applied at each and every service and even brought it back between services for them to apply it. Normally they charge $35 but never charged me. Now its just out of warranty.
aualright is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-12-2005, 12:47 PM   #27
AnthonyQLD
Boss power
 
AnthonyQLD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,046
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HP Dude
Wow, this thread has brought a tear to my eye: I thought I was the only one suffering in silence (NOT).
We are all here for you :Reverend:
AnthonyQLD is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-12-2005, 02:42 PM   #28
Group C
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 238
Default

Got the same here.
My BA XR8 ute squeals, squeaks, clicks, and doesn't hold.
Just about given up on my dealer fixing any of it.
But after all *Ford ad* 'no one knows your Ford like we do'. Shame they can't fix any of it... _

Nikk's AU XR8 sedan squeaks somtimes, but at least the handbrake works well :
Her's seems to be fine when cold. It only happens when the brakes are hot/warm. Guess it MIGHT stop when the shoes wear a bit, coz the handbrake lever only moves about 4 'clicks'.

Ohh, I tried the anti-squeak too. Was OK for a week or 2, but that stuff doesn't last.
A pain to get on the shoes too, coz you have to pull it all apart to get to them.
Group C is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-12-2005, 04:19 PM   #29
kryzak260
Brembo Lover
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Perth
Posts: 325
Default

Damn, and i thought i was the only person with this issue.

Its a great feeling to cruise through town in your new AU Fairlane and drive past all your commodore and clubsport owning mates to be followed by sqeeling and squeeking nosies.

No justification goes far enough for that :
__________________
Mine: 2007 BFII XR6 Turbo in Conquer with Sunroof, BFII Typhoon rims, CarPC, FPV Leather Wheel

Hers: 2006 BF Super Pursuit in Vixen
kryzak260 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-12-2007, 08:19 PM   #30
T3rminator
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
T3rminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,811
Default

Apologies for bringing up a very old thread.... but its been 24 months since this thread was started. Has anyone found a fix yet?
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Rides (past and present)
Current: 2004 Ford Falcon 5.4L 3v Barra 220, Manual
Past: Mitsubishi Sigma (m), Toyota Seca (m), Toyota Seca SX (m), Toyota Vienta V6 (m), Toyota Soarer 4L v8 (a), BA XR8 ute (m), T3 TE50 (m), BMW Z4 (m)

AFF motto - If contrary views trigger, please use ignore button.
T3rminator is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 02:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL