FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 348

boss engine · 19-10-2014, 10:00 PM

I...rest...my...case

Wretched · 19-10-2014, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boss engine

I...rest...my...case

I said it when it was revealed and I'll say it again, FG X makes FG(I and II) look very old hat. Just a pity Ford had no $$ to do some upgrades to the interior.

boss engine · 19-10-2014, 10:16 PM

Trust me, you aren't the only person to say that it makes the current Falcon look dated, because it does!

b2tf · 19-10-2014, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

people who have seen them in the flesh have their opinion, doesn't make it any more right than people going off photos, it's just their opinion.

Just to comment on this point. Prior to seeing it in the flesh I thought FGX's front end was a real backward step, I really did not like it. BUT, having seen it and spent a day around it, it kinda "works". I wouldn't buy a gold one even though it's the hero colour they are pushing, but in blue or black I would be happy to have one.

**Silver Ghia** · 19-10-2014, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

I said it when it was revealed and I'll say it again, FG X makes FG(I and II) look very old hat. Just a pity Ford had no $$ to do some upgrades to the interior.

I'm wondering why Ford would make upgrades to the interior, to the same extent as Holden did with their VF. The big difference is Holden just had to modernise from the terrible VE interior design, but the 6 year old basic design of the FG interior is very functional and still appealing, and would have been hardly worthwhile for major changes to be done just for a couple of years production. Especially considering the numbers that will be built.

Dalonian · 19-10-2014, 10:34 PM

Does anyone know if the EcoLpi models of the FG X have had a re design so they have the same boot space as the petrol engines?

BrendanSM · 19-10-2014, 10:37 PM

If you guys haven't seen, links for the 100m sprint for XR8/XR6Turbo/XR6 EcoLPI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2B73vVN19I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5nHJigDjDk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPewODeliBM

**Silver Ghia** · 19-10-2014, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

I wouldn't buy a gold one even though it's the hero colour they are pushing, but in blue or black I would be happy to have one.

Unfortunately they didn't have a Smoke coloured XR8 there, but I think that colour would probably work best of the lot.

SensationFG8 · 19-10-2014, 10:48 PM

Boot is still flat in ecolpi, no change there.

Wretched · 19-10-2014, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

I'm wondering why Ford would make upgrades to the interior, to the same extent as Holden did with their VF. The big difference is Holden just had to modernise from the terrible VE interior design, but the 6 year old basic design of the FG interior is very functional and still appealing, and would have been hardly worthwhile for major changes to be done just for a couple of years production. Especially considering the numbers that will be built.

I am not sure I agree, i think it looks quite dated and as it comes out of the the FG range, the quality of the materials belie the upmarket look the exterior attempts to bring.
Secondly how many here criticised Holden for keeping the VE for so long?
In any case Ford didn't have the cash, it is what it is.

Road_Warrior · 19-10-2014, 11:15 PM

Won't stop me from getting one.

Dalonian · 19-10-2014, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

Boot is still flat in ecolpi, no change there.

Blah, I thought that might be the case.

fgpsi · 20-10-2014, 12:19 AM

Imagine what the interior would've been like if FoA had more money to play with. Really want to see the sketches of the FGX FPV range that never got the green light and what the interior would've been like had it been done properly - my guess is they have sketches for this also

I could see I few muppets trying to make a gt out of an xr8 if those images were released

Blem · 20-10-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by boss engine

Trust me, you aren't the only person to say that it makes the current Falcon look dated, because it does!

Those photos show me that the FG has the last Australian inspired Falcon appearance.
The new Falcon has the "worldwide" Ford look about it.
Perhaps the new model looks better in the flesh. It would need to

**DJM83** · 20-10-2014, 07:52 PM

Spotted a black FGX XR8 in Albury today. Gave him the thumbs up. He look at me like wtf is this idiot doing. He gave it some curry, sounded aweosme. Snapped a cpl pics aswell.

nstg8a · 20-10-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

Just to comment on this point. Prior to seeing it in the flesh I thought FGX's front end was a real backward step, I really did not like it. BUT, having seen it and spent a day around it, it kinda "works". I wouldn't buy a gold one even though it's the hero colour they are pushing, but in blue or black I would be happy to have one.

I can understand that, but is it also maybe a similar case to the HSv gts e3? In a light colour it was way ott, but in a dark or black colour a lot of the detail blended in and it actually became half decent?

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Originally Posted by Blem

Those photos show me that the FG has the last Australian inspired Falcon appearance.
The new Falcon has the "worldwide" Ford look about it.
Perhaps the new model looks better in the flesh. It would need to

Falcon has always, always had a ford worldwide appearance.

Granada, Torino, Sierra, Taurus (oh no he didnt

) now fusion... They all have similar design elements to falcons throughout the years.

HO 3 · 20-10-2014, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Blem

Those photos show me that the FG has the last Australian inspired Falcon appearance.
The new Falcon has the "worldwide" Ford look about it.
Perhaps the new model looks better in the flesh. It would need to

The entire X series range XL- XC design was all American Ford/Merury inspired!

Cheers Mick

Snowdoggydogg · 20-10-2014, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Blem

Those photos show me that the FG has the last Australian inspired Falcon appearance.
The new Falcon has the "worldwide" Ford look about it.
Perhaps the new model looks better in the flesh. It would need to

FG looks quite similar style wise to the Mondeo of that time which is definitely a Ford world vehicle.
The BF would be the last Aussie inspired in my opinion and I like the subtle power lines in the Boss version but on a whole the squared off look was dated for that time. Still BA-BF styling had it all over the AU which I found hard to love in any of its Mark releases.
The FGX will be in my stable if I can get a good trade in on my wife's SSV VE Commy. She's a Holden fan but after driving my G6Et around she didn't want to go back to the SSV. A RSpec barked past the other day and I told her it's got the same V8 in the new XR8 and she was sold.

Blem · 20-10-2014, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HO 3

The entire X series range XL- XC design was all American Ford/Merury inspired!

Cheers Mick

Yeah Sprint etc.
I owned a XP with legal 302w for 13yrs.
My point was that this new Falcon is/has taken us away from what I feel was a truely Australian designed/engineered looking vehicle into NOW just fitting into the worldwide Ford look.
Love the B series. Even the Au.
My sweet spot is the FG.
Fg x ...X just marks the spot where FOMOCO ****** us...
Generecally phucking us thatis

commodorenutt · 21-10-2014, 12:22 AM

If you look at the local Falcon model evolutions, traditionally the first one of a new body series tows the corporate appearance line, but as the local facelifts happen, they move further away from it.

XD was very similar to the Euro design, but XF facelift was all Aussie (and arguably one of the most pleasant looking fronts of any Aussie car).

EA was probably one that was the least global - except for the Sierra/Sapphire style nose, and the EF/EL moved it to another level that was away from what global Ford were doing.

AU was heavily inspired by the Taurus, but the BA was a "Bloody Amazing" refresh that didn't look like anything else in the global Ford garage, and has won a legion of fans for it's well balanced looks.

The FG/FG-X seems to be reversing this - the FG itself as a whole car didn't have any clear "global" inspiration, except for the lower front grille design in the bumper (so just 1 panel) - which followed the low Aston style from '08-11, and then the 3-bar on FG2, as they slowly lifted the grille higher & higher across the model range.

But the FG-X, rather than being a facelift that moves away, is really towing the global design line - and it has to, so it can fade out gracefully and leave us with uninspiring imported front-drive sedans to replace it, and Joe Public won't notice the change as much.....

Cobra · 21-10-2014, 10:42 AM

Does anyone know if the radio on the higher-spec models will be DAB compatible?

MAD · 21-10-2014, 10:46 AM

I didn't pay any attention to that but a friend did say he loved that fact they had digital radio. So I assume yes.

Alan D Segal · 21-10-2014, 11:04 AM

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He look at me like wtf is this idiot doing.

That's most peoples' reactions to focus drivers.

vztrt · 21-10-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobra

Does anyone know if the radio on the higher-spec models will be DAB compatible?

DAB is across the range.

HO 3 · 21-10-2014, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

I said it when it was revealed and I'll say it again, FG X makes FG(I and II) look very old hat. Just a pity Ford had no $$ to do some upgrades to the interior.

Looking at the some pics i think the money shot for the FGX XR8 is the side on front that shows that lovely full length power bulge.........i suspect a pic of the XR8 parked nose to nose with one of the previous model FG V8s would look rather awkward for the latter

Cheers Mick

SensationFG8 · 21-10-2014, 12:01 PM

The bulge on the new car doesn't quite stand out as much as the old one from side profile.

HO 3 · 21-10-2014, 12:06 PM

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The bulge on the new car doesn't quite stand out as much as the old one from side profile.

Which is a good thing in my book.

Cheers Mick

SensationFG8 · 21-10-2014, 12:09 PM

Yeah not so much in mine. Ever since the BA that bulge has been the sexy indicator of the big v8 and I love it!

responsef6 · 21-10-2014, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HO 3

Looking at the some pics i think the money shot for the FGX XR8 is the side on front that shows that lovely full length power bulge.........i suspect a pic of the XR8 parked nose to nose with one of the previous model FG V8s would look rather awkward for the latter

Cheers Mick

I reckon the Ba/f & fg power bulges are the best example of this bonnet treatment in the world and over the history of muscle cars, and is unique to Falcon. Less bulges on m3 and amg bonnets have looked ok, but not as good as our v8 falcons. Don't make me laugh at the aftermarket walkinshaw tack on crap they add to their bonnets. Calloway corvettes were full length bulges like FGX, but too skinny and proboscus looking.

New FGX full length centre bulge is great and heaps better than callaway but has been done by a few auto makers over the years. To me ford aus nailed it with size, width, placement with the b/fg bulges. I love looking out my windscreen and seeing that monster rising out of the bonnet.

Snowdoggydogg · 21-10-2014, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by responsef6

I reckon the Ba/f & fg power bulges are the best example of this bonnet treatment in the world and over the history of muscle cars, and is unique to Falcon. Less bulges on m3 and amg bonnets have looked ok, but not as good as our v8 falcons. Don't make me laugh at the aftermarket walkinshaw tack on crap they add to their bonnets. Calloway corvettes were full length bulges like FGX, but too skinny and proboscus looking.

New FGX full length centre bulge is great and heaps better than callaway but has been done by a few auto makers over the years. To me ford aus nailed it with size, width, placement with the b/fg bulges. I love looking out my windscreen and seeing that monster rising out of the bonnet.

It's very Tom Jones.