Top 10 Lost Prototypes of Ford Australia

FalconXV · 07-04-2018, 01:22 PM

http://www.top10cars.com.au/top-10-l...ord-australia/

chevypower · 07-04-2018, 01:53 PM

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http://www.top10cars.com.au/top-10-l...ord-australia/

There was definitely a lot of potential there, I would have liked to have seen the 4.0 get an alloy block, and maybe even an aluminum body on the Falcon with a 10 speed. I rememembr pushing those GT-HO rumours around back in 2003 with the 6.8L V10. I guess Ford Australia never seriously considered that engine option.

ipn · 07-04-2018, 04:16 PM

Hey remember that 4x4 xy or xw ute ? , i still see one getting around in this area sometimes .

Bossxr8 · 07-04-2018, 04:23 PM

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Hey remember that 4x4 xy or xw ute ? , i still see one getting around in this area sometimes .

That went into production though, they made like 200 of them.

ipn · 07-04-2018, 05:28 PM

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That went into production though, they made like 200 of them.

Well i never knew that , thanks .

Must be as rare as now these days imo .

Paul

xxx000 · 07-04-2018, 08:41 PM

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That went into production though, they made like 200 of them.

432 of them were made

Bossxr8 · 07-04-2018, 04:22 PM

The GT-H was apparently close to production. The engine had already been developed alongside the Miami, and added an intercooler. Rumour was Vermillion Fire was going to a GT-H only paint colour. Stress along the firewall killed it off though, cause FPV and Ford apparently argued over who should pay for the solution to fix it.

They were the rumours at the time anyway. The only thing FPV officially owned up to was the intercooled miami version was developed alongside the non cooled Miami, cause they said they developed 2 versions. Was ready to go.

jimt3te50 · 13-04-2018, 07:55 PM

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The GT-H was apparently close to production. The engine had already been developed alongside the Miami, and added an intercooler. Rumour was Vermillion Fire was going to a GT-H only paint colour. Stress along the firewall killed it off though, cause FPV and Ford apparently argued over who should pay for the solution to fix it.

They were the rumours at the time anyway. The only thing FPV officially owned up to was the intercooled miami version was developed alongside the non cooled Miami, cause they said they developed 2 versions. Was ready to go.

The GT Black bar I got had was used on the development car and still had a hose in it running left to right- there were intercoolers in either side of the bumper cavities of the prototype car that wore this bumper.

malazn mafia · 13-04-2018, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The GT-H was apparently close to production. The engine had already been developed alongside the Miami, and added an intercooler. Rumour was Vermillion Fire was going to a GT-H only paint colour. Stress along the firewall killed it off though, cause FPV and Ford apparently argued over who should pay for the solution to fix it.

They were the rumours at the time anyway. The only thing FPV officially owned up to was the intercooled miami version was developed alongside the non cooled Miami, cause they said they developed 2 versions. Was ready to go.

What was the actual problem with 'stress along the firewall'. Would aftermarket tuned FG's putting out double the amount of power exhibit this trait??

au2000 · 13-04-2018, 11:32 PM

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What was the actual problem with 'stress along the firewall'. Would aftermarket tuned FG's putting out double the amount of power exhibit this trait??

In short, over time yes indeed,
, the fg firewall would needed to have been strengthened.

Speaking to a fpv engine guy a few years back, commented you'd kill a fg shell before the motor

malazn mafia · 15-04-2018, 05:45 PM

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In short, over time yes indeed,
, the fg firewall would needed to have been strengthened.

Speaking to a fpv engine guy a few years back, commented you'd kill a fg shell before the motor

Damn, that's a little bit disappointing. Is that because the Falcon from EA to FG-X was basically an evolution with a few basic underpinnings carried over, with the firewall being one of them

Bossxr8 · 16-04-2018, 04:10 PM

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The GT Black bar I got had was used on the development car and still had a hose in it running left to right- there were intercoolers in either side of the bumper cavities of the prototype car that wore this bumper.

I remember the spy shots of the development car in sweden, and you could see the heat exchangers in the holes the foglights would go in in normal GT's.

baboon · 07-04-2018, 04:51 PM

An FG wagon would have been my next car if that were to come through! But the article draws a very poor example of what an FG wagon could be.

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While no images or descriptions of the FG wagon have emerged, we’ve pieced together a design using carry-over floorpan and doors of the BF MkIII, but added a Mondeo-inspired curved roofline and integrated the C-pillar into the window line.

Im sure I've seen much better examples on this forum!

roKWiz · 07-04-2018, 05:19 PM

A late model performance panel van would have been nice, maybe even a 4x4 panel van, Holden "Overlander" concept comes to mind.

**Fordman1** · 07-04-2018, 08:49 PM

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An FG wagon would have been my next car if that were to come through! But the article draws a very poor example of what an FG wagon could be.

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Im sure I've seen much better examples on this forum!

And they honestly believe that that “pre school” attempt at a picture is what it was going to look like ?

The media is just rubbish and should be fined for rubbish they “put out there”.

It’s there own fault the phrase “Fake news” has been owned by Trump.

FalconXV · 07-04-2018, 10:19 PM

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And they honestly believe that that “pre school” attempt at a picture is what it was going to look like ?

The media is just rubbish and should be fined for rubbish they “put out there”.

It’s there own fault the phrase “Fake news” has been owned by Trump.

I wrote the article and did the photoshops. My first ever attempt.I accept I need more practise but I’ll get there and did my best. If you don’t like it and think it’s not up to scratch, I’ll take that on board and do my best to improve but if you wanna get downright nasty about it then that’s really more of a reflection of you than my work.

I’m not part of the big media establishment I just do this as a personal hobby because I love cars and I love fords and wanted to put something interesting together.

Also I don’t get your last sentence- trump just calls anything that doesn’t paint him in a favourable light ‘fake news.’

baboon · 07-04-2018, 11:17 PM

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I wrote the article and did the photoshops. My first ever attempt.I accept I need more practise but I’ll get there and did my best. If you don’t like it and think it’s not up to scratch, I’ll take that on board and do my best to improve

Respect the work and effort you've gone through putting together the article FalconXV. Its a great attempt and is appreciated, well done. We're a bit passionate here so always demand greater then the best! I loved the BA wagon when I owned it and always wanted Ford to continue with it. Did not mean any disrespect with the drawing attempt, but constructive criticism is it could have been better, however I could not even come close to that effort, so good job.

Im sure if you asked nicely there maybe some photoshop guru's here on this forum that may lend you their attempts at the FG wagon.

FalconXV · 07-04-2018, 11:24 PM

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Respect the work and effort you've gone through putting together the article FalconXV. Its a great attempt and is appreciated, well done. We're a bit passionate here so always demand greater then the best! I loved the BA wagon when I owned it and always wanted Ford to continue with it. Did not mean any disrespect with the drawing attempt, but constructive criticism is it could have been better, however I could not even come close to that effort, so good job.

Im sure if you asked nicely there maybe some photoshop guru's here on this forum that may lend you their attempts at the FG wagon.

Thanks. I expected and welcome any criticism, as it improves the breed.

wodahs · 07-04-2018, 05:21 PM

for me I would have been interested in a V8 FG Fairlane/LTD

suppose now all I could hope is for them to bring a RWD V8 Lincoln ltd town car or some thing of the sort over

hackney · 07-04-2018, 07:25 PM

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for me I would have been interested in a V8 FG Fairlane/LTD
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suppose now all I could hope is for them to bring a RWD V8 Lincoln ltd town car or some thing of the sort over

Hell,that is one ugly butt!

wodahs · 07-04-2018, 08:18 PM

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Hell,that is one ugly butt!

people have often said that about the rear of fairlanes ltd's and galaxies
but its always been the type if ford I have preferred over the falcon

and yet id prefer it to

Syndrome · 07-04-2018, 07:06 PM

There were three versions of the Miami V8 developed but the most powerful version was never released into production.

Sprintey · 07-04-2018, 07:20 PM

A diesel I6 would have been an absolute weapon.
Heck, Toyota could have bought units of it when the 4.5V8 diesel began giving troubles and LC owners back traded to the 1HD-FTE

FalconXV · 07-04-2018, 07:37 PM

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There were three versions of the Miami V8 developed but the most powerful version was never released into production.

How much power was it making?

Syndrome · 07-04-2018, 07:39 PM

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How much power was it making?

Unofficial figures were 315, 335 and 375. Our calibration engineers said it went like stink.

FalconXV · 07-04-2018, 11:01 PM

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Unofficial figures were 315, 335 and 375. Our calibration engineers said it went like stink.

Did it have an overboost like GTF? Someone should build a Vermillion Fire replica.

Bossxr8 · 09-04-2018, 03:17 PM

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There were three versions of the Miami V8 developed but the most powerful version was never released into production.

The first 2 were the same engine though, just the tune was different. Mechanically identical, and went on the market as the GS 315 and GT 335.

commodorenutt · 07-04-2018, 11:06 PM

The photoshops needed to start with an FG to get the side swage lines correct - carrying over the AU-BA-BF door pressings visually kills any thought of it being an FG based vehicle, and with an FG nose, and updated rear 1/4 pressings, they would have spent the money to reskin doors - that's cheap compared to other sheetmetal changes.

290GTP · 09-04-2018, 03:50 PM

I reckon they would have sold heaps of these.

Adamz Ghia · 09-04-2018, 06:30 PM

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I reckon they would have sold heaps of these.

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Holden’s Sportswagon never really added volume, it mostly took away sales from the sedan.