2018 Ranger Raptor - Page 11

Mercury Bullet · 03-01-2018, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

How many people on this forum own XR8 and XR6T? Why would you? You cannot use it's full capabilities on the road. 2/5s of f all people take high performance cars to race tracks. They should just buy a Camry hybrid and save money on fuel costs.

Some people need to get real we don't have autobahns like Germany does. Need to face the facts, fast cars on public roads in a German thing only.

But also as others have said, I doesn't need to be a V8 petrol in the Ranger Raptor. Just something that has decent power gains over the standard Ranger.

Lol.

Maybe you need to get out of the city?

Hmm now I'm not sure if this is tongue in cheek....

Bossxr8 · 03-01-2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

How many people on this forum own XR8 and XR6T? Why would you? You cannot use it's full capabilities on the road. 2/5s of f all people take high performance cars to race tracks. They should just buy a Camry hybrid and save money on fuel costs.

Some people need to get real we don't have autobahns like Germany does. Need to face the facts, fast cars on public roads in a German thing only.

But also as others have said, I doesn't need to be a V8 petrol in the Ranger Raptor. Just something that has decent power gains over the standard Ranger.

Way to totally miss my point. Hopefully that was just tongue in cheek.

Junkyard-Dog · 03-01-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

All the 'cashed up tradies' that I know buy the bog standard ute for work and have a 'proper' car for after work/weekend use.

or a van.

**Rallye Sport** · 03-01-2018, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

2/5s of f all people take high performance cars to race tracks.

Dunno about that, plenty of different people and cars turning up to our local tuning days, powercruises, roll racing and wednesday night drag racing to name a few.

nstg8a · 03-01-2018, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

Dunno about that, plenty of different people and cars turning up to our local tuning days, powercruises, roll racing and wednesday night drag racing to name a few.

As a percentage of cars sold it would be a tiny amount though...

CyberWasp · 03-01-2018, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

How many people on this forum own XR8 and XR6T? Why would you?

Because it puts a smile on your face, every time you sit in it and turn the key.

Something a Hybrid Camry certainly doesn't do.

jimt3te50 · 03-01-2018, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Because it puts a smile on your face, every time you sit in it and turn the key.

Something a Hybrid Camry certainly doesn't do.

Hybrid Camry's put a smile on MY face- I lol when I see someone driving one.

My son went through a period of asking which car brands were "cool" when he was younger- he still remembers my reply when he asked me about Toyotas... "no, son. Toyotas are for people who have given up on life"

SumoDog68 · 03-01-2018, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jimt3te50

Hybrid Camry's put a smile on MY face- I lol when I see someone driving one.

My son went through a period of asking which car brands were "cool" when he was younger- he still remembers my reply when he asked me about Toyotas... "no, son. Toyotas are for people who have given up on life"

Cars are just a product and don't determine or describe the character of their owners. Car enthusiasts might not agree with this and thats fair enough.
Car enthusiasts also pick and choose between many different brands and types of cars .My advice is go and see some JZ or UZ powered track or drag cars or try some off road tracks and discover that many Toyota owners have passion for cars.

Ben73 · 04-01-2018, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

Lol.

Maybe you need to get out of the city?

Hmm now I'm not sure if this is tongue in cheek....

It is. I think performance sedans are cool and I like them.

I know some people with performance type cars will do tack days and all the other fun stuff, but most owners won't.
I know a few people with quick cars and only one takes it to the track and uses it to its full capability.
Just like with the F150 Raptor. How many owners really drive it flat stick through the desert using all available horsepower and suspension travel? Hardly any. Now ask all F150 Raptor owners if they wish it had the same engines as the standard F150 so it was better on fuel. I bet most owners would say no way.

Mercury Bullet · 04-01-2018, 01:38 PM

My car has never been to a track, yet it gets driven harder for longer than any track day.

Just did 550km and it took 3 tanks of fuel.

Falcons, mustangs, Porsches. We are out there driving them hard, you just won't see us.

What's fuel economy...

naddis01 · 07-01-2018, 02:51 PM

Surely, if Ford are going to release the Raptor with a diesel, the 3.0 V6 Powerstroke would be a much better option than the 2.0 Ecoblue. 186kW and 596Nm.

I still feel that the 2.0 will replace the 2.2 and the 3.0 will replace the 3.2 in Australia.

http://www.tfltruck.com/2018/01/2018...oke-diesel-v6/

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FORD RELEASES POWER, TORQUE, TOWING SPECS FOR 3.0L POWERSTROKE DIESEL (NEWS)

Ford Midsize News by ZachButler - January 6, 2018 35

3.0-liter PowerStroke diesel

2018 Ford F-150 King Ranch SuperCrew. [Photo: Ford]

MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR SPRING 2018. THAT’S THE DATE YOU’LL BE ABLE TO SPEC AN F-150 WITH A NEW 3.0-LITER POWERSTROKE DIESEL.

For those wanting Ford’s PowerStroke diesel in your F-150, 2018 is the year your wait comes to an end. Ford has released specs for the diesel that, starting this spring, you’ll be able to order in a 2018 F-150. Built on the tried-and-true formula of the diesel Super Duty, this smaller engine, Ford says, is designed to deliver exceptional power in a hard-working package.

Here’s what we now know about the new PowerStroke diesel option for the F-150. According to Ford’s website, this engine will be offered as part of the company’s most advanced engine lineup to date. You’d expect the diesel engine to be a torque monster, and you’d be right. The 3.0-liter diesel puts out 250 horsepower at 3,250 RPM and 440 lb-ft of torque at 1,750 RPM. As with the EcoBoost V6s and 5.0-liter V8, the diesel will also come attached to a 10-speed automatic transmission. With that much low-down, torque, Ford has pegged towing capacity at 11,400 pounds.

Romulus · 07-01-2018, 02:57 PM

I'd expect the new 3.0L Powerstroke diesel to find it's way into the Ranger and Everest at the next model makeover.

**Polyal** · 07-01-2018, 04:35 PM

https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...d-bare-110449/

Its only carsales but if the US gets a V6 and we get a tuned 2.0 then wow...just wow. I cant see how they think 215HP is enough for this car and I bet he $$ they will ask for it.

The bloody Wildtrack is overpriced and its engine is nothing special either.

RIP FPV utes.

bretts351 · 07-01-2018, 07:32 PM

LOL.... you guys.... whatever Ford put in it, don't worry.... it'll still taste like hotcakes

78xcgxl · 08-01-2018, 05:52 PM

http://www.caradvice.com.au/612389/f...tll-look-like/ Looks pretty cool. Hopefully has the drive line to back it up.

naddis01 · 08-01-2018, 06:04 PM

From the article...

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Ford is set to take the wraps off the Ford Ranger Raptor on February 7 at a global reveal in Bangkok, Thailand, and this is how it’s LIKELY to look

While it will most likely look similar to that, it is just a rendering.

Adamz Ghia · 08-01-2018, 06:57 PM

I have no idea on the new engine line up, but how could Ford pitch a 2.0 Raptor over a 3.2 Wildtrack at around 20 grand more?

**DFB FGXR6** · 08-01-2018, 06:57 PM

Another Paul Maric "exclusive"

Sabantien · 08-01-2018, 07:24 PM

While unless I win lotto I won't be buying this (actually if I win lotto I'm buying a LandCruiser), I'd be pretty disappointed if it comes with a 2l 4 cylinder engine.

I know they're getting good power out of little motors these days, but it's a Raptor, they're advertising it as a race ready vehicle. I'd want something beefy under the bonnet to go with the other changes.

Bring on an efficient 2l engine for the rest of the range (and i'm skeptical about how efficient it would be moving such a big vehicle. The tiny engine in the sister in law's CX-5 chews through more fuel than my Falcon), but the high performance flagship variant doesn't just deserve a big, powerful engine. It needs it.

**Fordman1** · 08-01-2018, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Another Paul Maric "exclusive"

Biggest flog in the media, copies and pastes and then picks up his contract check.

Worst motoring journalist on the planet.

Nu66et · 08-01-2018, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

I have no idea on the new engine line up, but how could Ford pitch a 2.0 Raptor over a 3.2 Wildtrack at around 20 grand more?

It makes it easier if the 2l is the only option across the range.

Adamz Ghia · 08-01-2018, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nu66et

It makes it easier if the 2l is the only option across the range.

Reckon they’d go through the effort of changing the back end for the same engine as a Wildtrack?

I may have missed something concrete, but I have a hunch they’re going to prove the 2l theory wrong in the end.

Romulus · 09-01-2018, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabantien

While unless I win lotto I won't be buying this (actually if I win lotto I'm buying a LandCruiser), I'd be pretty disappointed if it comes with a 2l 4 cylinder engine.

I know they're getting good power out of little motors these days, but it's a Raptor, they're advertising it as a race ready vehicle. I'd want something beefy under the bonnet to go with the other changes.

Bring on an efficient 2l engine for the rest of the range (and i'm skeptical about how efficient it would be moving such a big vehicle. The tiny engine in the sister in law's CX-5 chews through more fuel than my Falcon), but the high performance flagship variant doesn't just deserve a big, powerful engine. It needs it.

I traded my 2012 PX XL 3.2 4x4 dual cab auto ute on a low k 2012 200 series GX Landcruiser. The twin turbo 4.5 V8 in the 200 craps all over the ranger, it's like chalk and cheese. I couldn't go back to a rattly, low powered 15 yo engine European 3.2 Transit engine.

Ford not having the V6 powerstroke diesel in the Ranger would be a big mistake imo.

chevypower · 09-01-2018, 02:59 PM

^^agreed, I think the 3.2 I5 has run its course. Ford only needs the 2.0 and 3.0 for the Ranger diesels.

Bossxr8 · 09-01-2018, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

Reckon they’d go through the effort of changing the back end for the same engine as a Wildtrack?

I may have missed something concrete, but I have a hunch they’re going to prove the 2l theory wrong in the end.

What does the engine have to do with the rear suspension? Coils ride better and have more suspension travel over rough ground. They wouldn't use them for anything other than they are better off road. Nothing to do with how much power is being pushed to them.

RANGEREST · 09-01-2018, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Romulus

I traded my 2012 PX XL 3.2 4x4 dual cab auto ute on a low k 2012 200 series GX Landcruiser. The twin turbo 4.5 V8 in the 200 craps all over the ranger, it's like chalk and cheese. I couldn't go back to a rattly, low powered 15 yo engine European 3.2 Transit engine.

Ford not having the V6 powerstroke diesel in the Ranger would be a big mistake imo.

Whilst I agree with that, for the $35000ish price difference(new), if you weren't happy with the difference-well you'd be ****ed off.

Mercury Bullet · 09-01-2018, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

Reckon they’d go through the effort of changing the back end for the same engine as a Wildtrack?

I may have missed something concrete, but I have a hunch they’re going to prove the 2l theory wrong in the end.

They may well do but the problem is the cars DNA.

10 years ago if you wanted a performance falcon, the f6 was it. You couldn't deny it.
Yet people often chose the lumpy, loud, guzzling v8 that wasn't particularly quick.
The gt has DNA.

A 2litre could be quicker than a big ecoboost, who knows. But to sell cars with a reputation like this, it must stir the emotions and the engine is the most important part in this.

Raptors are emotional, not sensible.

Give it a coyote! :p

Adamz Ghia · 09-01-2018, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

What does the engine have to do with the rear suspension? Coils ride better and have more suspension travel over rough ground. They wouldn't use them for anything other than they are better off road. Nothing to do with how much power is being pushed to them.

I read many times on here part of the reason we never got a new XR8 Ute was because the rear end couldn’t handle the power put out by the 5.0, I assumed Ranger may have been in a similar situation, perhaps not from a pure power perspective, but as a whole package.

**Polyal** · 09-01-2018, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

I read many times on here part of the reason we never got a new XR8 Ute was because the rear end couldn’t handle the power put out by the 5.0, I assumed Ranger may have been in a similar situation, perhaps not from a pure power perspective, but as a whole package.

Half accurate..remember you could get the GS in 315 (5.0). Beyond that Ford must of had issues with internal compliance.

The Stylist · 14-01-2018, 04:24 PM

Not quite the Raptor, but the standard US-spec Ranger has been leaked prior to its reveal...