NSW mobile phone detection cameras

[hackney]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Surprise surprise the Government is trying to avoid people contesting their fines because people are doing it in large numbers so they'll just change legislation so it's guilty unless proven innocent and it's on them to prove its not a phone.

Who saw that coming?

They don't seem too confident in their new fancy camera system if it's coming down to this.

I have to wonder,whether they were holding “something else”? Quite frankly I am behind the Gov’t 100%.Do not like it ? Do not pick anything up! How simple is that?,why would you have anything else in your hands while driving anyway?(again that is dangerous as well) do you have an issue with that@? It seems you do?I cannot stress enough,keep “BOTH” hands on the steering wheel.Simple isn’t it?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by hackney

I have to wonder,whether they were holding “something else”? Quite frankly I am behind the Gov’t 100%.Do not like it ? Do not pick anything up! How simple is that?(again that is dangerous as well) do you have an issue with that@? It seems you do?

I don't have an issue with the fine for using your phone while driving.

My issue is around watering down the court system to reverse proof to be on the accused, reeks of revenue raising operations.

Maybe if you love draconian governments then go move to China and you can live in your Communist utopia - just don't mention Taiwan... I mean Chinese Taipei.

[hackney]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I don't have an issue with the fine for using your phone while driving.

My issue is around watering down the court system to reverse proof to be on the accused, reeks of revenue raising operations.

Again,easy way around that.Do NOT pick anything up whilst driving(you shouldn’t anyway)then,you have nothing to fear.Both hands on the wheel.A lot of drivers obviously cannot comprehend that.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by hackney

Again,easy way around that.Do NOT pick anything up whilst driving(you shouldn’t anyway)then,you have nothing to fear.Both hands on the wheel.A lot of drivers obviously cannot comprehend that.

Don't talk about Taiwan being an independent nation or Hong Kong's one nation two systems model either.

[hackney]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Don't talk about Taiwan being an independent nation or Hong Kong's one nation two systems model either.

What an earth are you going on about? Stay on subject.Not interested in “Taiwan OR HongKong”(or the politics involved) or trying to make parallels.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by hackney

What an earth are you going on about? Stay on subject.Not interested in “Taiwan OR HongKong”(or the politics involved) or trying to make parallels.

Shhh or it's off to the gulag - just don't talk about it, easy

[marty351]

Originally Posted by hackney

Again,easy way around that.Do NOT pick anything up whilst driving(you shouldn’t anyway)then,you have nothing to fear.Both hands on the wheel.A lot of drivers obviously cannot comprehend that.

So how do I jot down your numberplate when I see you pick your nose or take a sip of your soy latté?

[hackney]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Shhh or it's off to the gulag - just don't talk about it, easy

No,you need to go to “Siberia”! (Comrade)

[hackney]

Originally Posted by marty351

So how do I jot down your numberplate when I see you pick your nose or take a sip of your soy latté?

Should not pick your nose(& let’s face it,that is pretty obvious) “Latte”? You should not have that in your hands,period! Again,don’t pick it up!Very,very simple,isn’t it?

[hackney]

You gotta love this subject! Stirred up the juices!!

[marty351]

That Beyoncé CD looked like a phone device. Off to jail.

What would happen if your windscreen mounted phone fell off, and you picked it up, (without digitally exciting any device it holds), and safely replaced it?

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by hackney

I have to wonder,whether they were holding “something else”? Quite frankly I am behind the Gov’t 100%.Do not like it ? Do not pick anything up! How simple is that?,why would you have anything else in your hands while driving anyway?(again that is dangerous as well) do you have an issue with that@? It seems you do?I cannot stress enough,keep “BOTH” hands on the steering wheel.Simple isn’t it?

I don’t think anyone on here is arguing that you should be able to pick something up.The debate is over the reversal of proof that is being suggested.If you are guilty,cop it,but it is not the drivers responsibility to prove innocence,it is the Govt,s duty to prove guilt

[roKWiz]

But officer I was reaching for my coffee.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by hackney

I have to wonder,whether they were holding “something else”? Quite frankly I am behind the Gov’t 100%.Do not like it ? Do not pick anything up! How simple is that?,why would you have anything else in your hands while driving anyway?(again that is dangerous as well) do you have an issue with that@? It seems you do?I cannot stress enough,keep “BOTH” hands on the steering wheel.Simple isn’t it?

Just imagine how far the government would push the boundaries of civil liberties if everyone was a spineless sheep. What do you think they would stop at if everyone just accepted what they were given?

There is no rule that says you can't pick anything up in your car while driving. Sunglasses case, cassette, pack of ciggies etc. All perfectly legal to hold.

[lra]

Originally Posted by marty351

What would happen if your windscreen mounted phone fell off, and you picked it up, (without digitally exciting any device it holds), and safely replaced it?

I am sure that your phone would be quite OK on the floor/seat/ whatever until such time as you could safely pull over and stop to retrieve it.
Same goes for anything else that you may drop.

This could be an exception ......... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...00kph/12430514

[ute83]

Originally Posted by hackney

Both hands on the wheel.A lot of drivers obviously cannot comprehend that.

Wow. You remind me of another member who has never done anything wrong... ever. Explain to me how I am supposed to change gears with both hands on the wheel.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by ute83

Wow. You remind me of another member who has never done anything wrong... ever. Explain to me how I am supposed to change gears with both hands on the wheel.

idk paddle shifters maybe
and remember some only drive autos

[Mechan1k]

Originally Posted by wodahs

idk paddle shifters maybe
and remember some only drive steer autos

Fixed for you

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by hackney

Again,easy way around that.Do NOT pick anything up whilst driving(you shouldn’t anyway)then,you have nothing to fear.Both hands on the wheel.A lot of drivers obviously cannot comprehend that.

I'm scared to scratch my face when the revenue patrol is nearby.
I had to break the habit of touching the side of my face when stopped at red lights.

[xxx000]

Pretty funny the terrified people with their "what if" scenarios.

Frankly I'm surprised they have the courage to drive at all.

[hackney]

Originally Posted by Ben73

I'm scared to scratch my face when the revenue patrol is nearby.
I had to break the habit of touching the side of my face when stopped at red lights.

Xclnt!

[hackney]

Originally Posted by ute83

Wow. You remind me of another member who has never done anything wrong... ever. Explain to me how I am supposed to change gears with both hands on the wheel.

You will have to “retrofit” an auto box into the thing!

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by hackney

You will have to “retrofit” an auto box into the thing!

Don’t know how your suggestion will go with a lot of the trucking companies.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Don’t know how your suggestion will go with a lot of the trucking companies.

A lot of companies are getting Prime Movers with Autos.


Probably because Driving School graduates don't know how to use a Roadranger.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

A lot of companies are getting Prime Movers with Autos.


Probably because Driving School graduates import 476 visa hat wear's don't know how to use a Roadranger.

fixed that for you

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by xxx000

Pretty funny the terrified people with their "what if" scenarios.

Frankly I'm surprised they have the courage to drive at all.

Driving is easy.

Paying $400 and getting 5 points for no reason at all is the hard part.

[hayseed]

Interesting Article......

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/....html#comments

[Mowdit]

Anyone seen what appear's to be a portable mobile phone detection unit ?

Looks like a roadside works yellow lighting tower trailer, retrofitted with two large black boxes/camera's (one very high hanging over the road, and a second mid way up)

Definantly wasn't there for any roadworks (between Heathcote rd and Lucus heights tip about 6 weeks ago)

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Mowdit

Anyone seen what appear's to be a portable mobile phone detection unit ?

Looks like a roadside works yellow lighting tower trailer, retrofitted with two large black boxes/camera's (one very high hanging over the road, and a second mid way up)

Definantly wasn't there for any roadworks (between Heathcote rd and Lucus heights tip about 6 weeks ago)

I think they stand out, but if you're distracted by a phone I can see how you will miss them pretty easy. Also some people are not very observant and probably have no idea what they are

[five 7]

How would this fly..
https://youtu.be/51U6G2bwb5k