Just had to fill my tank Aghhh... - Page 2

Maka · 27-08-2013, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4ford

I've got two responses to catch up with here . . .
1/ I've just returned from a road trip BNE-ADL-PER-ADL-BNE, and the cheapest petrol for the entire trip was in outback NSW, around Parkes and the like. Was about 25c per litre cheaper than BNE, the most expensive capitol city in Australia to buy petrol.

and 2/ My question is, "Why fill up?", I always (unless driving long distance) just fill to about half a tank. I don't want to spend a significant amount of fuel simply lugging the full tank around, all the while reducing your performance as well. Do you realize how much a full tank of fuel weighs?

Pulling in to top-up more regularly is not a problem, which I mostly do in the late evenings or early mornings, when the fuel is cool-in-the-ground, and I get more fuel for my money.
That's because the local service station pumps do not adjust the volume delivered for temperature variations, which means when the fuel slightly warms up, it expands and you don't get the correct volume of fuel you pay for.
So, don't refuel in the heat of the day (or early evening), or as/shortly after the fuel company tanker has delivered a new load of (warm) fuel.

Why do you think jet airliners calculate very carefully the amount of fuel they carry, it costs to carry to much!

Cheers,
4ford

Thanks for the tip 4ford! Remember guys, cost is nothing if your spoiling yourselves with the car of your dreams lol!

cheers, Maka

**Uncle_Ken** · 27-08-2013, 05:13 PM

I could always ask my kids to give me some petrol money for Dads taxi.
UK

**GasoLane** · 27-08-2013, 05:20 PM

Here ya go Uncle, I had a similar one on my old Nokia N95 but it was free then

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.taxi

**Uncle_Ken** · 27-08-2013, 09:15 PM

Maybe I'll get that for Fathers Day

Great find every Forum member should have it.

UK

Mr Hardware · 28-08-2013, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4ford

I don't want to spend a significant amount of fuel simply lugging the full tank around, all the while reducing your performance as well. Do you realize how much a full tank of fuel weighs?

At highway speeds, the difference between a full tank of fuel and an empty one would be so negligable it would not be able to be measured.

**GasoLane** · 28-08-2013, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

At highway speeds, the difference between a full tank of fuel and an empty one would be so negligable it would not be able to be measured.

And a full tank of Gas would weigh about as much as a Teenager but much easier to manage

**Full Noise** · 28-08-2013, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4ford

I've got two responses to catch up with here . . .
1/ I've just returned from a road trip BNE-ADL-PER-ADL-BNE, and the cheapest petrol for the entire trip was in outback NSW, around Parkes and the like. Was about 25c per litre cheaper than BNE, the most expensive capitol city in Australia to buy petrol.

and 2/ My question is, "Why fill up?", I always (unless driving long distance) just fill to about half a tank. I don't want to spend a significant amount of fuel simply lugging the full tank around, all the while reducing your performance as well. Do you realize how much a full tank of fuel weighs?

Pulling in to top-up more regularly is not a problem, which I mostly do in the late evenings or early mornings, when the fuel is cool-in-the-ground, and I get more fuel for my money.
That's because the local service station pumps do not adjust the volume delivered for temperature variations, which means when the fuel slightly warms up, it expands and you don't get the correct volume of fuel you pay for.
So, don't refuel in the heat of the day (or early evening), or as/shortly after the fuel company tanker has delivered a new load of (warm) fuel.

Why do you think jet airliners calculate very carefully the amount of fuel they carry, it costs to carry to much!

Cheers,
4ford

This is a great post. I think I might print it our and put it up inside one of the fuel terminals in Melbourne.

Keep wearing that tin foil hat, it’ll save you one day.

I don’t have time to respond to each paragraph here as I have to head out, but I will when I get a chance.

**Uncle_Ken** · 28-08-2013, 03:45 PM

Now if only Rudd or Abbott would cut fuel by half, I'd vote for that.
Vote 1 UK I promise to bring back 14c a litre.....
UK
The comment above is a party political promise and does not really count under any circumstances....

JC · 29-08-2013, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4ford

I've got two responses to catch up with here . . .
1/ I've just returned from a road trip BNE-ADL-PER-ADL-BNE, and the cheapest petrol for the entire trip was in outback NSW, around Parkes and the like. Was about 25c per litre cheaper than BNE, the most expensive capitol city in Australia to buy petrol.

and 2/ My question is, "Why fill up?", I always (unless driving long distance) just fill to about half a tank. I don't want to spend a significant amount of fuel simply lugging the full tank around, all the while reducing your performance as well. Do you realize how much a full tank of fuel weighs?

Pulling in to top-up more regularly is not a problem, which I mostly do in the late evenings or early mornings, when the fuel is cool-in-the-ground, and I get more fuel for my money.
That's because the local service station pumps do not adjust the volume delivered for temperature variations, which means when the fuel slightly warms up, it expands and you don't get the correct volume of fuel you pay for.
So, don't refuel in the heat of the day (or early evening), or as/shortly after the fuel company tanker has delivered a new load of (warm) fuel.

Why do you think jet airliners calculate very carefully the amount of fuel they carry, it costs to carry to much!

Cheers,
4ford

Are you serious? Wouldn't want to give anyone a lift then would you - too much weight. Better not buy groceries and carry them home in the car - too much weight. A full tank of fuel weighs around 80kg. Half a tank weighs about 45kg (How do I work that out - the tank has a base weight). in a 21600kg car, the difference to perfomrnace is minute. It would possibly only be in the 1/10ths L per 100km and as for performance, it might be in the 1/10000s to 100km. And comparing the fuel a car carries to the thousands of a litres an airplane carries? Seriously? WTF!

Try this on as a counter argument - every time you slow down or speed up in a V8, you use more fuel than simply cruising at a nice even 60, 80 or 100. So by filling up with fuel more regularly, you are actually wasting any perceived savings by having to accelerate to get up to speed again!

Not to mention the time factor - my time can be better spent driving a car to do the things I want to do rather than stoppong evey 100km or so to splash and dash it so I get "better" economy and performance.

OMG - I actually don't even know why I bothered replying - but I've typed it now so might as well hit "submit reply".

Maka · 29-08-2013, 08:23 PM

"Half a tank weighs about 45kg (How do I work that out - the tank has a base weight). in a 21600kg car, the difference to perfomrnace is minute."

I'm sure you would feel the difference in a car that weighs THAT much

cheers, Maka

JC · 29-08-2013, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maka

"Half a tank weighs about 45kg (How do I work that out - the tank has a base weight). in a 21600kg car, the difference to perfomrnace is minute."

I'm sure you would feel the difference in a car that weighs THAT much

cheers, Maka

Oops - fat fingers. Obviously I meant 21000000kg!

For the record - 1600kg is what I should have typed.

4ford · 30-08-2013, 01:50 PM

JC - what an absolutely extraordinary post, I'm afraid I can't, and won't take your responses remotely seriously whilst uttering that sort of misleading twaddle.

**Uncle_Ken** · 30-08-2013, 03:33 PM

Boys lets place nice, remember my main comment was the number of years since I had to pay petrol prices over LPG. It would be an interested thread if someone would like to start it on their top tips to make our petrol cars go further. In th eman time I'm getting ready for fathers day and to see what car vouchers I get, I want to go shoping!!

UK

Vincenzo · 30-08-2013, 08:52 PM

Just completed a quick drive from Darwin to Brisbane via Townsville.

Katherine $1.43 cpl with a 17 cpl discount

Barkley Homestead and Camoweel $2.05 cpl

Brisbane $1.50 cpl without a discount.

Cheers Viincenzo

revcore · 31-08-2013, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle_Ken

Now if only Rudd or Abbott would cut fuel by half, I'd vote for that.
Vote 1 UK I promise to bring back 14c a litre.....
UK
The comment above is a party political promise and does not really count under any circumstances....

14c a litre...Just imagine how many stroked V8's would be on the road as daily drivers, It would be brilliant.

**Uncle_Ken** · 31-08-2013, 02:00 PM

Then Vote 1 Uncle Ken and I will promise ...blahh, blaah blah etc.

UK