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Old 05-09-2023, 03:42 PM   #1
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https://www.drive.com.au/news/vfacts...new-car-sales/

1 Toyota…………….22,321……….up 8.3 per cent
2 Mazda……………….8458………..down 4.1 per cent
3 Ford………….………7898…………..up 35.3 per cent
4 Hyundai……………6513………….down 2 per cent
5 Kia…………………….6510………..down 4 per cent
6 MG……………………5368………….up 74.6 per cent
7 Mitsubishi…………4961…………down 22.2 per cent
8 Isuzu Ute…………4712………….up 68.3 per cent
9 Subaru…………….4706………….up 59 per cent
10 Nissan……………..4233………….up 154.1 per cent





1 Toyota HiLux………….…..5762……….down 7.3 per cent
2 Ford Ranger………….…….5760……….up 28 per cent
3 Toyota RAV4………….……3317……….up 34 per cent
4 Isuzu D-Max……………..…3281………..up 70 per cent
5 MG ZS………….……………..3193….……up 118 per cent
6 Toyota Corolla…….………2808……….up 33 per cent
7 Tesla Model Y…………..….2314……….up 128 per cent
8 Hyundai Tucson………....2084………..up 21 per cent
9 Mitsubishi Outlander…..2030………up 30 per cent
10 Toyota Prado……………….1969……..up 3.5 per cent

Ford Everest………………….1502
Ford Transit Custom……….199

4x2 Utes………………….Toyota HiLux (1201)……..Isuzu D-Max (653)…….Ford Ranger (379)
4x4 Utes < $100k……Ford Ranger (5381)……..Toyota HiLux (4561)…..Isuzu D-Max (2628)
Utes > $100k……..……Ram 1500 (457)………Chevrolet Silverado HD (130)…………Chevrolet Silverado 1500 (121)

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Old 05-09-2023, 05:37 PM   #2
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With the two so close imagine the different headline if say two customers at Toyota couldn't make it by Thursday 31/8 to pick up their Hilux's or conversely if two more Rangers were handed over by the EOM, it would have been a draw.

Another thought, it would be very interesting if the car companies could list how many deliveries for the month were for orders 3, 6 or 12+ months old just to see where things stand for the auto industry in general.
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With the two so close imagine the different headline if say two customers at Toyota couldn't make it by Thursday 31/8 to pick up their Hilux's or conversely if two more Rangers were handed over by the EOM, it would have been a draw.

Another thought, it would be very interesting if the car companies could list how many deliveries for the month were for orders 3, 6 or 12+ months old just to see where things stand for the auto industry in general.
Well we know that Ford has secured another ship to bring more Rangers and Everests to Australia
so we should expect those combined deliveries/sales to remain over 7,000 per month - good for Ford.
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15% market surge, Australia laughs at RBA's measly interest rates
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Very interesting that in the medium passenger and medium SUV >60K it's the electric (Tesla) that's selling the best. Change is here, all other numbers should follow as price points get hit.
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And some SUV goals for JLR: win in the upper large >120K, win in the large >70K and a 3rd in upper large <120K.
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Old 05-09-2023, 07:12 PM   #7
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Well we know that Ford has secured another ship to bring more Rangers and Everests to Australia
so we should expect those combined deliveries/sales to remain over 7,000 per month - good for Ford.
Puma at 110 units.
Sort of the same as last month.
Supply deficit out of FOE?
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Puma at 110 units.
Sort of the same as last month.
Supply deficit out of FOE?
Until Ford Europe gets its house in order, we will struggle to see any meaningful supply.
Oddly enough, there’s over 20,000 Mach Es in US Inventory so looks like buyers have deserted them,
Cuautitlan makes RHD for Europe, maybe stick 3,000 on a boat to Australia……must be coming surely


Just on Ranger sales,
The 4x4 Ranger keeps outselling 4x4 Hilux, the new Ranger is turning the tide finally but I’m wondering
what Toyota has planned in the next Hilux evolution, there will be a fight back and Ford must be ready.
The best thing Ford could do is up deliveries even more so that the time lag is down to say, a month but
yeah I know, Thai production allocation and engine supply is probably the limiting factor.

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Until Ford Europe gets its house in order, we will struggle to see any meaningful supply.
Oddly enough, there’s over 20,000 Mach Es in US Inventory so looks like buyers have deserted them,
Cuautitlan makes RHD for Europe, maybe stick 3,000 on a boat to Australia……must be coming surely


Just on Ranger sales,
The 4x4 Ranger keeps outselling 4x4 Hilux, the new Ranger is turning the tide finally but I’m wondering
what Toyota has planned in the next Hilux evolution, there will be a fight back and Ford must be ready.
The best thing Ford could do is up deliveries even more so that the time lag is down to say, a month but
yeah I know, Thai production allocation and engine supply is probably the limiting factor.
I dont think Toyota care too much about what others are doing, they'll happily let Ford fill the private Ranger market whilst they continue selling everything of everything else they can get.
14k sales in the top 10 as is, why invest to appease 7-800 buyers that may or may not be swayed anyway.
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I dont think Toyota care too much about what others are doing, they'll happily let Ford fill the private Ranger market whilst they continue selling everything of everything else they can get.
14k sales in the top 10 as is, why invest to appease 7-800 buyers that may or may not be swayed anyway.
Honestly, I don’t care what Toyota does but Ford must not get complacent with Ranger and what buyers want.
The next big effort should be to keep improving Everest sales, something still limited by shipping
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Some quick mathematics tells me that even if those four models in the top 10 weren't included, Toyota would still have come first for the month.
Gotta hand it to 'em.
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Auto 70 series landcruiser to be released with 4cyl 2.8D

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...ch-with-a-four

Reckon the wheel track has been changed?
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Small victories.
Not long ago, Ford was hanging by its fingernails in 5th place with barely 5,000 sales,
now they are knocking on 8,000 sales, Ford needs to secure that and keep reaching with
more products like Mach E, Maverick and maybe Bronco Sport, FOA needs to lobby hard.
Those are the kinds of vehicles that could make a difference….not just copy others.
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Just noticed this

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The Tesla Model Y electric SUV (2314 deliveries) finished seventh last month, down from fourth in July 2023 and second in June 2023.

When the 995 deliveries reported for the Tesla Model 3 sedan are added, the US electric-car maker reported 3309 sales – but it dropped out of the Top 10, finishing 12th.
What’s going on with Tesla? I thought that they would be pressing on with higher sales but
it looks like buyers have mostly switched to Y with 3 now making up about a third of total sales
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What’s going on with Tesla? I thought that they would be pressing on with higher sales but
it looks like buyers have mostly switched to Y with 3 now making up about a third of total sales
Technically, v facts aren't sales, they are registrations. It's a minor difference. Some manufacturers don't get regular shipments so analysing monthly figures will always show spikes and troughs.

Year to date figures are more accurate in showing where the manufacturer sits in the rankings.
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Technically, v facts aren't sales, they are registrations. It's a minor difference. Some manufacturers don't get regular shipments so analysing monthly figures will always show spikes and troughs.

Year to date figures are more accurate in showing where the manufacturer sits in the rankings.
Tesla could be a little bit behind but, I followed your advice:

Year to date, Tesla deliveries are at 32,820 or average of 4,102 per months
sales were a quarter of that last year so things are improving for Tesla locally.
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