For the wheel guru's

Mr Brooksy · 21-11-2022, 01:42 PM

Hi guys,

Ive recently bought a Territory Turbo Ghia and it came with a set of wheels I would like to identify.

on Flickr

on Flickr

Anyone know what these are?

Thanks

Citroënbender · 21-11-2022, 01:57 PM

No model name on the back? Closest from MB I could find, is the Chaos five spoke. The brand is apparently discontinued.

Mr Brooksy · 21-11-2022, 08:07 PM

So I looked on the inside of the wheel. The only think l thing I could find was Bruzer 04H

Looks like they are an older wheel. I've never heard of them

**Raptor** · 21-11-2022, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Brooksy

So I looked on theinside of the wheel. The only think l thing I could find was Bruzer 04H…

Found ‘em, apparently that’s what they are called. MB Bruzer.

See this Explorer thread; https://www.explorertalk.com/threads...er-rims.37660/

Yours are chrome obviously (yuch) but they also came like this (also yuch);

BTW that tyre size 245/40/20 is at least a few sizes too small for a Territory and that load rating of 99 is a no no.

Cheers, Raptor

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**DFB FGXR6** · 21-11-2022, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr brooksy

hi guys,

ive recently bought a territory turbo ghia and it came with a set of wheels i would like to identify.

image on flickr

image on flickr

anyone know what these are?

Thanks

kill them with fire!!!

Mr Brooksy · 21-11-2022, 08:43 PM

Totally ugly as, hence why I'm trying to find out more info... Hopefully someone out on the internet loves this awful look.

Regarding the tyres... Yeah, not something I would choose to put on.

I would like a set of dark argent 19s, but I'm aware that the load rating is not high enough and they are almost impossible to find now. Otherwise a set of summons (yeah they are extremely common) would be good option, or maybe a BBS style wheel?

All that will a bridge I'll have to cross very soon.

Vesper Martini · 22-11-2022, 09:55 AM

Having that sized tyre Id suspect they are Falcon wheels, 275 40 R20 has always been to goto for 20" on a territory

saying that I was looking at a popular site for wheel & tyre packages for territory and hey only offer 245 tyres on 8.5 inch rims. something wrong there

https://mswt.com.au/search-packages....=500&u_colour=

Mr Brooksy · 22-11-2022, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

Having that sized tyre Id suspect they are Falcon wheels, 275 40 R20 has always been to goto for 20" on a territory

saying that I was looking at a popular site for wheel & tyre packages for territory and hey only offer 245 tyres on 8.5 inch rims. something wrong there

https://mswt.com.au/search-packages....=500&u_colour=

I've just gotten off the phone to a couple tyre places, they can't get 19 inch or 20 tyres with a weight rating of the minimum 104. I know there are many people here that run 19s or 20s, what weight rating are you running and what brand tyres allow the 104 rating?

Oh, and just for laughs, I picked up a nail yesterday... And the tyre place won't repair cause the inside edge is work too much.

When it rains it pours...

**Raptor** · 22-11-2022, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Brooksy

I've just gotten off the phone to a couple tyre places, they can't get 19 inch or 20 tyres with a weight rating of the minimum 104...

That doesn’t sound right.

I ran Bridgestone DUELER H/P SPORT 275/40R20 106Y.

Technically 275/40 should be fitted to minimum 9” rims, whereas 275/45 are fine on 8.5” (extra sidewall height/bulge)

Now 9” is more than +1” (25mm) on the factory 7.5” size so not strictly allowed.

The 275/40/20 tyre is no more than +15mm larger on diameter vs. std so are the ideal 20” size.

The 275/45/20 tyre that can legally be mounted to the legal 8.5” width wheel exceeds the +15mm diameter rule, and rubs as too big.

So just choose which rule you are prepared to overlook to run 20”s on your Territory.

Mine had 20x9” with slightly lower offset of 30mm, and a load rating greater than 850kgs per wheel.

Mr Brooksy · 23-11-2022, 01:14 AM

Ok so after calling maybe 6-8 tyre places and countless websites I found I can get 19's and 20's for upwards of 550+ per tyre that meets all the requirements.

So I'm buying F6X rims instead. Go back to 18's and back to respectable $ per tyre.

Vesper Martini · 23-11-2022, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Brooksy

I've just gotten off the phone to a couple tyre places, they can't get 19 inch or 20 tyres with a weight rating of the minimum 104. I know there are many people here that run 19s or 20s, what weight rating are you running and what brand tyres allow the 104 rating?

Oh, and just for laughs, I picked up a nail yesterday... And the tyre place won't repair cause the inside edge is work too much.

When it rains it pours...

I have not seen a 274/40 R20 with a rating less than 104?
my last purchases were
rapid & Aptany's which had a 106 Rating, very good tyres for the price. unfortunately I cant find the Aptany's anymore.

Punctures? I fix them myself

Vesper Martini · 23-11-2022, 10:06 AM

Just to add to raptors comment the 275/40 R20 is a size commonly made for SUVs

Range Rovers, BMW's & other Euro's have this size as standard.
40 profile on a 275 tyre has plenty of sidewall

re price? they are far more common than an 18" SUV tyre so can be found cheaper
I just paid $170 each for a pair of Rapids

Mr Brooksy · 23-11-2022, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

I have not seen a 274/40 R20 with a rating less than 104?
my last purchases were
rapid & Aptany's which had a 106 Rating, very good tyres for the price. unfortunately I cant find the Aptany's anymore.

Punctures? I fix them myself

I was being told to look for 245(or 255)/45/20 not a single tyre and wheel place suggested 275/40/20!

Geez, sometimes I wonder about tyre joints... It's not like I was saying I have wheel rim X and what can I put on it! I told each and every one that I'm after new wheels and tyres for Territory and every single one Jax, Tyrepower, Bob Jane, Purnell, Ozzy, and about 3 other independents all said the same thing....

Oh well, I'll stick with my decision to go with 18's as the deals already been made.

Vesper Martini · 23-11-2022, 10:32 AM

Yeah I while back went into a Jaxx tyres and they guy was trying to point me towards 255's I let him show me his recommendation, I then pointed out they were more expensive and didn't have the correct load rating..
I ended up getting their Nexen's I had to get a warranty replacement on one after a month.

I now do my own research.

stick with your 18's it will still look good

Bossxr8 · 23-11-2022, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Brooksy

I was being told to look for 245(or 255)/45/20 not a single tyre and wheel place suggested 275/40/20!

Geez, sometimes I wonder about tyre joints... It's not like I was saying I have wheel rim X and what can I put on it! I told each and every one that I'm after new wheels and tyres for Territory and every single one Jax, Tyrepower, Bob Jane, Purnell, Ozzy, and about 3 other independents all said the same thing....

Oh well, I'll stick with my decision to go with 18's as the deals already been made.

They just want to sell what they have in stock and easy to get. It's not what's best for you.