0-100 kmph AU 6 & V8 - Page 3

Casper · 28-01-2005, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCXR8

If that's from the calculator on the web site, then all the people calculating 0-100 based on that need to add 0.something to their times. 60 mph is 96 km/h, not 100 km/h. I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but that extra 4km/h may take a few tenths to reach (especially if a gear change is involved).

True, but its consistant with the GTech which also does a 0-60 time so still valid.

JC · 28-01-2005, 06:25 PM

My G-Tech does 0-100 km/h, not 0-60mph. You can get mph and km/h versions of G-tech - mine is the km/h version, so all 0-100 & 0-400m terminal velocity is given in km/h, not mph.

jonbays · 30-01-2005, 03:50 PM

consulting my library of magazine road tests here are some numbers the magazine road testers got on a few different AU Models. The different mags test in different ways but you get the general picture. Interesting how the manual s beat a manual XR6?

4.0 Forte wagon Auto 0-100 9.8 400m 17.0
4.0 Futura Auto 0-100 8.8 400m 16.3
4.0 Fairmont Auto 0-100 9.3 400m 16.8
4.0 Fairmont Ghia VCT Auto 0-100 8.2 400m 16.1
4.0 Falcon S 5-Speed 0-100 7.9 400m 15.8
4.0 XR6 S 5-Speed 0-100 8.3 400m 15.9
4.0 XR6 VCT 5-Speed 0-100 8.2 400m 15.7
4.0 XR6 VCT Auto 0-100 8.0 400m 15.9
5.0 V8 Fairlane Auto 0-100 7.9 400m 15.8
5.0 V8 185KW XR8 Auto 0-100 7.8 400m 15.7
5.0 V8 185KW XR8 5-Speed 0-100 7.2 400m 15.2
5.0 V8 220KW XR8 5-Speed 0-100 6.6 400m 14.8
5.0 V8 TE50 5-Speed 0-100 7.1 400m 14.9
5.0 V8 TL50 Auto 0-100 8.1 400m 15.9
5.0 V8 TS50 5-Speed 0-100 7.2 400m 15.2
5.0 V8 5.6L TE50 5-Speed 0-100 6.0 400m 14.1

**Stav** · 30-01-2005, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbays

consulting my library of magazine road tests here are some numbers the magazine road testers got on a few different AU Models. The different mags test in different ways but you get the general picture. Interesting how the manual s beat a manual XR6?

4.0 Forte wagon Auto 0-100 9.8 400m 17.0
4.0 Futura Auto 0-100 8.8 400m 16.3
4.0 Fairmont Auto 0-100 9.3 400m 16.8
4.0 Fairmont Ghia VCT Auto 0-100 8.2 400m 16.1
4.0 Falcon S 5-Speed 0-100 7.9 400m 15.8
4.0 XR6 S 5-Speed 0-100 8.3 400m 15.9
4.0 XR6 VCT 5-Speed 0-100 8.2 400m 15.7
4.0 XR6 VCT Auto 0-100 8.0 400m 15.9
5.0 V8 Fairlane Auto 0-100 7.9 400m 15.8
5.0 V8 185KW XR8 Auto 0-100 7.8 400m 15.7
5.0 V8 185KW XR8 5-Speed 0-100 7.2 400m 15.2
5.0 V8 220KW XR8 5-Speed 0-100 6.6 400m 14.8
5.0 V8 TE50 5-Speed 0-100 7.1 400m 14.9
5.0 V8 TL50 Auto 0-100 8.1 400m 15.9
5.0 V8 TS50 5-Speed 0-100 7.2 400m 15.2
5.0 V8 5.6L TE50 5-Speed 0-100 6.0 400m 14.1

JonBays ...based on these figures with a manual falcon s and the same motors out of our wagons..0-100 in 5.8 seconds!!!We have shaved off 2.2 seconds off the wagons times.

Has anyone got a standard AU fords times in real life without mods?

jonbays · 30-01-2005, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by useless

JonBays ...based on these figures with a manual falcon s and the same motors out of our wagons..0-100 in 5.8 seconds!!!We have shaved off 2.2 seconds off the wagons times.

Has anyone got a standard AU fords times in real life without mods?

take 200kg out of our wagons throw in a manual and yes you would have an XR8 beater. XR8 auto's don't bother me much now anyway. On the street in roll ons there is very little in it.

Casper · 30-01-2005, 05:33 PM

Just got to find 200kgs out of the wagon (unloaded) and then hope that the car mags are right (yeah...RIGHT!

: )

**Stav** · 30-01-2005, 05:37 PM

Thats it!!!Out goes the towbar,cargo barrier matts,and yeh time to take a jog!!! :evilking:

but wait!!!wheres the angle grinder!!!

Casper · 30-01-2005, 05:42 PM

Mate, time for CF bonnet, panels and the works

au-steve · 30-01-2005, 10:23 PM

or buy yourself a 6 litre HSV.

The Mighty Red · 31-01-2005, 01:53 AM

Well i did a 0 - 100kph run tonight with the video camera and worked it out to 7.6 secs, although i have to say i got a fair bit of wheel spin to about 35kmh and 34c with 100% humidity would not help. So i could comfortably say that with a good launch it would do a 7.2 or better. If anyone can tell me how to post the video i will , mucked around for 2 hours trying to work out how to do it but i'm just a Dumb bricklayer.

**Stav** · 31-01-2005, 08:41 AM

AU2XLSV8 5.96 seconds (ute)
loxxr6 6.31 seconds (XR6)
Casper 6.37 seconds (XR6)
Jonbays 7.12 seconds (wagon)
Useless 7.50 seconds (wagon)
Our blue xr6 7.60 seconds(for now)
Cheahman 7.60 seconds (XR6)
Dauphin 8.1 seconds (pimp mobile)
JCXR8 8.5 seconds (wagon)

I wonder how accurate that calculator is?

Casper · 31-01-2005, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by useless

I wonder how accurate that calculator is?

I guess I'll find out soon enough

**Stav** · 31-01-2005, 09:23 AM

probably by tommorow

Dauphin · 31-01-2005, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbays

consulting my library of magazine road tests here are some numbers the magazine road testers got on a few different AU Models. The different mags test in different ways but you get the general picture. Interesting how the manual s beat a manual XR6?

4.0 Fairmont Auto 0-100 9.3 400m 16.8
4.0 Fairmont Ghia VCT Auto 0-100 8.2 400m 16.1

Amazing how the VCT can shave off over a whole second.

Andrew.

**Stav** · 31-01-2005, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dauphin

Amazing how the VCT can shave off over a whole second.

Andrew.

Its even funnier how 1 sec 0-100 equated to .7 second difference over the 1/4 mile in the same run...

Using that estimate 2 seconds quicker from 0-100 = 1.4 seconds quicker on quarter mile .3 seconds would equal 2.1 on the quarter. Using this formula which I just came up with then I am pretty sure that 3 seconds less than stock 0-100 would see JonBays and myself run a flat 15 or 14.9 quarter mile with the wagons.
If you look at the first 4 sixes onJonBays list there is consistency that 1 sec ond equates to .7

Casper · 31-01-2005, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by useless

Its even funnier how 1 sec 0-100 equated to .7 second difference over the 1/4 mile in the same run...

nah, I'd expect that as the weight started to take its toll and the cars power couldnt compensate.
I also suspect the 0-100 difference is purely because the ghia would have the 3.45 diff gears where the Monty wouldnt.

**Stav** · 31-01-2005, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbays

4.0 Forte wagon Auto 0-100 9.8 400m 17.0
4.0 Futura Auto 0-100 8.8 400m 16.3

differrence of 1 second and .7 second 1/4

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbays

4.0 Fairmont Auto 0-100 9.3 400m 16.8
4.0 Fairmont Ghia VCT Auto 0-100 8.2 400m 16.1

1 second again and .7 second 1/4..
Diff ratios are a good point but it is wierd....I am strictly looking at the times..it does appear very coincidental.

Casper · 31-01-2005, 03:15 PM

Could just be that the mags are full of crap too. I'd assume this first.

**Stav** · 31-01-2005, 03:25 PM

ehehe.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbays

4.0 Forte wagon Auto 0-100 9.8 400m 17.0
5.0 V8 185KW XR8 Auto 0-100 7.8 400m 15.7

2 second difference 15.6 1/4 mile..

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbays

5.0 V8 TE50 5-Speed 0-100 7.1 400m 14.9

5.0 V8 5.6L TE50 5-Speed 0-100 6.0 400m 14.1

1.1 seconds *.7=.77 difference 1/4 mile. 14.9-.77 second=14.13

You probably right mate ,the mags are full of crap ,but applying "the useless formula"(tm) it seems pretty good food for thought.

Cheahman · 31-01-2005, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casper

Could just be that the mags are full of crap too. I'd assume this first.

I second that, mags are only good as a guide. And just for the record, since everyone wants to get technical with their times, I had 1 passenger and a full tank of fuel when I got my time.

**Stav** · 31-01-2005, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbays

4.0 XR6 S 5-Speed 0-100 8.3 400m 15.9

Ok using a real live example then ..
Loxxr6 0-100 6.31 seconds 1/4 14.680 (real life)4.0 xr6 manual.

2seconds quicker 0-100
2* .7=1.4
15.9 -
1.4= 14.5 1/4 mile...now thats close!!!

Casper · 31-01-2005, 03:50 PM

ok, try mine Useless, I'm curious.

**Stav** · 31-01-2005, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbays

4.0 XR6 VCT Auto 0-100 8.0 400m 15.9

8-6.37=1.63
1.63*.7=1.141
15.9-1.63=14.759 your actual 1/4 mile is 15.082?

With yours the formula is about.3 out.It appears wrong.

However if my calculations are correct you are running a 7 second 0-100 casper not 6.37. Gtech it and let us know? I am probably wrong...

Casper · 31-01-2005, 04:56 PM

I'll be happy with any sub 7 0-100 personally. I know the car comes on at 3000rpm so I'm betting the formula for 0-60 based on 1/8 time will be a bit out.

The Mighty Red · 31-01-2005, 07:18 PM

ok i did another 2 runs this afteroon and i changed the way i launched the car big difference in times . first run 0-100 was a 7.32 and the second was a 7.2 with hardly no wheel spin and today is a much cooler afternoon up here on the coast.last nite was really humid . The missus told me to hold of posting last nite but i was a bit keen to post. Think i could have another 50 goes and would be pushin to do any better
our blue xr6 0-100 = 7.2secs

The Mighty Red · 31-01-2005, 07:24 PM

AU2XLSV8 5.96 seconds (ute)
loxxr6 6.31 seconds (XR6)
Casper 6.37 seconds (XR6)
Jonbays 7.12 seconds (wagon)
Our blue xr6 7.20 seconds (XR6)
Useless 7.50 seconds (wagon)
Cheahman 7.60 seconds (XR6)
Dauphin 8.1 seconds (pimp mobile)
JCXR8 8.5 seconds (wagon)

Casper · 31-01-2005, 07:40 PM

I'll take mine out tomorrow night to try and get a real number, I suspect 6.37 is a little optimistic to be honest.

The Mighty Red · 31-01-2005, 08:01 PM

Think with your mods and the jmm team working on your car a 6?? is a definate.
Amazing what a bit of traction will do. Just got to find a buyer for the kids and i can get my dev 3hl real soon :nutsycuck

Casper · 31-01-2005, 08:45 PM

I'm thinking a high 6 is most possible. 6.8 or 6.9, still good numbers in my books. Considering its an auto that is looking suspiciously like another torque reduction victim I guess I cant complain.

The Mighty Red · 31-01-2005, 09:04 PM

err ,whats torque reduction , i read about you and few of the other guys talkin about it and Lachlan was/is workin on a fix. Does this affect my auto or is it just a VCT thing .
If this sounds like a dumb question sorry but if I dont ask i wont know.

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