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Old 09-01-2014, 04:20 PM   #1
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Hi. I know im not the only one that is eagerly waiting the realese of the new falcon later this year. With it less than a year away now im sure there are test mules driving around the proving grounds at the You Yangs and near by areas. Surely there has to be some spy pics/leaked images of this car soon you would think. Anyone got anything at all?

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I thought about this the other day in regards to the "Last GT". If they were testing them surely someone would have spotted it by now. I came to the conclusion that because the unpinning of the vehicle are not going to change much from the current FG, its possible that the test mules are getting around with FG panels and the actual new body wont be on show for a few months yet. My theory anyway.
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It's safe to say that the FH update will be just like the BA to BF update, very minor cosmetic changes that the untrained eye would not even notice. Doors will be the same, boot will be the same, different lights at rear, different bumper and lights at front, front fenders slightly different to accomodate the new headlights.
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Even more embarrasing would be the lower spec variants of the VF in HSV's stable getting whopped by a factory XR8.
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It's safe to say that the FH update will be just like the BA to BF update, very minor cosmetic changes that the untrained eye would not even notice. Doors will be the same, boot will be the same, different lights at rear, different bumper and lights at front, front fenders slightly different to accomodate the new headlights.
Fortunately you are incorrect. A pillar forward and c pillar rearward is changing and you cannot mistake it for an FG. Not even close.

Mules have been around a few months too.

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Fortunately you are incorrect. A pillar forward and c pillar rearward is changing and you cannot mistake it for an FG. Not even close.

Mules have been around a few months too.

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You have pics/links to share with the rest of us? I've not seen or heard anything other than a AU - BA style like upgrade.
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You have pics/links to share with the rest of us? I've not seen or heard anything other than a AU - BA style like upgrade.
Considering it's all still secret, it's unlikely that there'll be any published information out there.
But yeah, think about it as the AU3-BA upgrade minus the changes to the interior or underneath.

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Essentially no. IMO the only issue with the current car ('s interior) is the quality of the materials and I'm led to believe that'll change. But otherwise expect the same shape as the FG.
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Essentially no. IMO the only issue with the current car ('s interior) is the quality of the materials and I'm led to believe that'll change. But otherwise expect the same shape as the FG.
That would be disappointing. To me, the FG interior looks dated, especially alongside the other current Ford offerings. IMO the interior is the weak link in the FG, which is otherwise quite a decent package and a good looker on the outside.
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Considering it's all still secret, it's unlikely that there'll be any published information out there.
But yeah, think about it as the AU3-BA upgrade minus the changes to the interior or underneath.


Essentially no. IMO the only issue with the current car ('s interior) is the quality of the materials and I'm led to believe that'll change. But otherwise expect the same shape as the FG.
It would be good if the brought back the snug, convenient and ergonomic BA/F Door Grab Handles...
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Fortunately you are incorrect. A pillar forward and c pillar rearward is changing and you cannot mistake it for an FG. Not even close.

Mules have been around a few months too.

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I can't think exactly what a Ford official said, but it was along the lines of "don't expect much in the next (FH) Falcon" but this could have been tech wise, not styling?

Do you know something more than we do, do you know an insider?
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Fortunately you are incorrect. A pillar forward and c pillar rearward is changing and you cannot mistake it for an FG. Not even close.

Mules have been around a few months too.

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Sounds like a much larger update than we thought if that's true.

I'm surprised that anonymous photographer of caradvice.com.au hasn't snapped anything running around You Yangs yet. They were really on the ball back in 2007, posting pics of the FG prototypes running around on both in public and the proving ground.
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Sounds like a much larger update than we thought if that's true.
I'm talking about the appearance of the car here, not the underpinnings
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I never said underpinnings. A change of A and C pillars is a much bigger change than just new front and rear bumpers like it's anticipated to be.
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Sounds like a much larger update than we thought if that's true.

I'm surprised that anonymous photographer of caradvice.com.au hasn't snapped anything running around You Yangs yet. They were really on the ball back in 2007, posting pics of the FG prototypes running around on both in public and the proving ground.
Don't expect any enthusiasm or support from Caradvice.

Ever since the appalling Jez Spinks joined Caradvice (as Editor in Chief ??), there has been a major shift to an irrational and pervasive editorial anti-Ford bias, with Spinks reveling in every opportunity to almost hysterically malign, demean and damn the Falcon - the antitheses of professional objectivity.

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Don't expect any enthusiasm or support from Caradvice.

Ever since the appalling Jez Spinks joined Caradvice (as Editor in Chief ??), there has been a major shift to an irrational and pervasive editorial anti-Ford bias, with Spinks reveling in every opportunity to almost hysterically malign, demean and damn the Falcon - the antitheses of professional objectivity.
100% spot on there. The guy is a douche.
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Caradvice lost its relevance to me years ago. The comment feed at the bottom of each page became full of trolling and flame wars. If one of their own writers is now pushing an anti-Ford agenda, their site can go disappear from the web for all I care.
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It's safe to say that the FH update will be just like the BA to BF update, very minor cosmetic changes that the untrained eye would not even notice. Doors will be the same, boot will be the same, different lights at rear, different bumper and lights at front, front fenders slightly different to accomodate the new headlights.
BA to BF was basically identical looks wise. I think you meant BA/BF to FG
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Unless they're going to start using a Carbon Fibre Chassis OR at least Aluminium Chassis thers not really much they can change apart from body styling which is really what makes most buyers buy....the looks!

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I don't think rear guards are changing as it's a single piece side pressing now but they might figure out new tailights with the new boot and rear bumper. The front won't be hard to change
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BA-BF had different front bars. I wouldn't call them identical.
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nitpicking. BF was hardly befitting of a new model series, it was more of a BAIII.
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I'd say FG to FH will be very similar to AU to BA. Same doors and roof, different front and rear styling, different interior and some suspension tweaks. Engines will be identical too I'd say.
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I'd say FG to FH will be very similar to AU to BA. Same doors and roof, different front and rear styling, different interior and some suspension tweaks. Engines will be identical too I'd say.
Not that AU-BA was anything short of fantastic though! (Reliability issues aside)
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Not that AU-BA was anything short of fantastic though! (Reliability issues aside)
Disagree but anyway.
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I'd say FG to FH will be very similar to AU to BA. Same doors and roof, different front and rear styling, different interior and some suspension tweaks. Engines will be identical too I'd say.
AU-BA was a massive change. Wheelbase lengthened 50mm, complete new rear suspension, fuel tank moved forward of axle, roof modified, front and rear glass change, new drivetrains.

I think it will be more like VX to VY.
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I just wanna see pics like 1000's of others out there and I'm just a little suprised that there hasn't been any spy pics or anything yet. Keep your phones/tablets/cameras nearby as I'm sure they are out there. Somewhere. They have to be. Right? Lol.
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I'm going to go with XE-XF :P
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I'm going to go with FG to FH and look forward to seeing the changes.
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I hope Ford start leaking spy pics and getting some test mules out there, and soon. If they don't, they may as well not bother. By late 2014, they will have bled so much market share to Commodore, people will be asking 'what's a Falcon?'
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BA to BF may not have had many cosmetic differences, and was certainly not as big as the AU to BA change, but under the hood there were some big changes. ZF Tranny. Stability control instead of just Traction and ABS. The VCT cams went dual-independent instead of always being same-phase. That stuff took some effort and was world-leading for Ford - especially the DiVCT, which is now an integral part of the Ecoboost brand.

FG to FH (I'd still prefer FU - after all, we all thought that the AV Falcon would come after the AU right up until the BA announcement - in fact some of the BA parts hard part codes that started with the letters AV) may not have many changes at all under the hood, but the skin will be quite different. Au to BA cost a cool $500M. Consider FG to FH the cosmetic bit of AU to BA, since this is only a ~$100M spend.


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So what happens if it outsells everything ? :p
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