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View Poll Results: Should the Falcon Wagons die?
Yes, Territory should replace the wagon lineup 42 21.76%
No, The wagon lineup should stay 79 40.93%
Only get rid of the wagons if there is a (factory) E-Gas Territory 24 12.44%
Only keep the wagons if they have a full lineup range (XT, G6, G6E, XR8, FPV?, Diesel?, etc) 48 24.87%
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Old 19-08-2009, 02:06 PM   #1
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Agree entirely on the wagon, they're great cars.

As for the RTV, weren't ford contemplating bringing them back at some stage?

No idea. Never heard anything about them. But I still say it would have been fine as a BFIII fleet hack.
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Old 19-08-2009, 02:30 PM   #2
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Falcon wagon was canned in 06 and has survived. I wouldn't underestimate it.

I just wonder if the RTV had have stayed on like the BFIII would Ford have been able to just get the euro 4 engine in both vehicles and soldier on.
Thing is this time, there is a statutory deadline which cannot be bypassed without re-investment in the platform by Ford. Will ford spend that money on the wagon? Keep an old platform running on the production line next to the new one with the sequencing difficulties that goes along with such an arrangement? Who knows.

As for the RTV, I've said it before and I'll say it again, they were fools to can it. It was the only vehicle available on the market with a modest off road capability, 1 tonne payload and dedicated gas.
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Old 19-08-2009, 06:43 PM   #3
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Territory needs a vertical rear end if it is to replace the Falcon wagon for practical cargo-carrying purposes. It has internal height but the sloping rear seriously compromises optimal loading. And it needs a gas version.
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Old 23-08-2009, 03:39 PM   #4
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The BFIII wagon is holding its own. Very large and practical vehicle. Sure it does not have IRS or a sports version like the Commodore but in Fords eyes and more importantly the consumer, that is not the point of a wagon. It is the ability to carry a load securely otherwise people would by a ute.

Even the Mondeo wagon has more boot space versus a Commodore wagon.

Mondeo has a luggage capacity of 1005 litres with the rear passangers seats upright and 2163 litres with the seats folded flat.

Commodore has 895 / 2000 litres respectively.

BFIII Falcon 1260 / 2584 litres respectively.

That extra boot space is a very large (pun intended) selling point for Ford. Plus they do not need to advertise the wagon as everyone knows its capabilities saving Ford money.
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