rego check failure and possible compensation, reprisal?

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

i,m supersized about the comments "what do you expect of thirty dollars?" Answer; I expect a safety inspection.

But that's not what she paid for. She paid for a pink-slip, she got a pink slip.

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

cause that is what the inspection is about.

No, no its not.
This is not an inspection to tell you what may need fixing. The primary purpose is to answer a simple yes/no question. "Is the vehicle roadworthy at the time of inspection."

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

to me it deosn,t make sense, i got pick up on one of my number plate lights not working, and the oil catch tray (just under oil filter on landcrusier 6cyl ) had spilled oil down the block, "oh its leaking oil he says", wtf (the 1hd fte engine is bullet proof, how dare you say that). then my friends machanic passes a dangerous ball joint, go figger. they just pick the easy, stupid faults.

It's hilarious that you apparently don't recognise your own double standards? You whinge because your car was failed for an actual defect, but you think your friend's car should have been failed for something that apparently wasn't defective at the time.

And here's the real rub. Had the mechanic said "I'm passing your vehicle, but one of the bj's is rattling and may need replacing before too long," would she have done anything about it?

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

I think I know which tool you're talking about.

Mirror mirror on the wall who etc etc

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

there are many people that expect and believe that its a proper safety inspection, non car people. charge $50, but do the job properly.

The $42 Fee Is the MAXIMUM that can be Charged for a Pink Slip..

https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/reg...andinspections


I don't know the actual Vehicles or people involved here, So am in no position to pass judgement..

But as has been mentioned a lot can happen between October & now(Almost Feb) If you really think that an Injustice has been inflicted on your Friend ?

Have a Crack at Ol Mate, I'd be curious as to the Outcome..!!

[Pis-ton broke]

i,m not going to add any further. its clear to me that there is little concern for this situation . that my friend has no repercussion for a bad rego check. i will to add , in all my years (and im gettin old), i,ve never know anybody to have a separated ball joint. and that "what do you expect for thirty dollars" . cause people don,t care.
i will advise her to get a proper safety check from pedders.

thanks for the input guys

[Pis-ton broke]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

But that's not what she paid for. She paid for a pink-slip, she got a pink slip.

No, no its not.
This is not an inspection to tell you what may need fixing. The primary purpose is to answer a simple yes/no question. "Is the vehicle roadworthy at the time of inspection."

It's hilarious that you apparently don't recognise your own double standards? You whinge because your car was failed for an actual defect, but you think your friend's car should have been failed for something that apparently wasn't defective at the time.

And here's the real rub. Had the mechanic said "I'm passing your vehicle, but one of the bj's is rattling and may need replacing before too long," would she have done anything about it?

ive taken my landcrusier to the same shop for years, the number plate light has always been blinky, it depends who the machinic is, last year the light didn,t work, it was a young girl that was watching the light, she walked to the tailgate and gave it a bash and it turn on, ok she yells, i laughed inside, cause uptight blokes have picked on the light for years, and ive never changed it.

she needed a road worth.

"that apparently wasn't defective at the time". are you shore about that, did you inspect the car?

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

ive taken my landcrusier to the same shop for years, the number plate light has always been blinky, it depends who the machinic is, last year the light didn,t work, it was a young girl that was watching the light, she walked to the tailgate and gave it a bash and it turn on, ok she yells, i laughed inside, cause uptight blokes have picked on the light for years, and ive never changed it.

she needed a road worth.

"that apparently wasn't defective at the time". are you shore about that, did you inspect the car?

[Pis-ton broke]

Originally Posted by hayseed

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ha,ha thats anal, get a life. i mean , one guy says yes and one guy says no for a double light number plate light. who gives a f anyway?

[xxx000]

When was the car last serviced?

The problem you describe should probably have been picked up then?

A service is when a mechanic typically has the car on a hoist and spends a deal of time visually checking under it for worn or damaged items that need attention.

[russellw]

I'm sorry but I wouldn't expect anything other than a badly worn ball joint to be picked up at an e-Safety check and even then I wouldn't be troubled if it failed months later given (1) the check certificate is only valid for 42 days anyway for exactly the reason that things do change; (2) I'm not a whining baby who believes the world owes me something and (3) a ball joint would need to be very badly worn to get picked up in a check that is supposed to ...

Check tyre quality and tread depth, working electrics such as headlights, indicators, interior lights and dash lights, vehicle body condition; engine/suspension/driveline assembly integrity, seatbelt condition, engine / driveline oil leaks and operation plus a brake efficiency test.

At the going dealership labour rate, the dealer retained portion of the e-Safety check represents about 15 minutes of technician time to complete the above with the brake test taking about 5 minutes of that.

The Victorian RWC check is no more comprehensive in terms of what it checks although it does include a windscreen test (about 3 minutes) and it costs between $100-150.

[Nu66et]

RMS eSafety checks are valid for 6 months

[ozpacman]

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[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by russellw

The Victorian RWC check is no more comprehensive in terms of what it checks although it does include a windscreen test (about 3 minutes) and it costs between $100-150.

I thought the Victorian RWC requires a full check when selling a car. ie complete underside inspection on hoist, wheels off, brake drums and or callipers removed and photos taken of everything. No yearly checks but when its time to sell it's tough.

[Pis-ton broke]

my friend has just told me that she paid the machanic $1000 cash for repairs to the car , repairs to the steering i,m told , plus other stuff. so as to pass the car for rego, i think she got ripped off on workmanship, an lack of care.

[lra]

^^^^ just like feeding Christians to the lions.
$1K cash, no invoice ? Detailed list of repairs ? GST. ?
Seen it happen all the time to people who don't know any better. My family is full of them, and then they whinge about it after it is done, rather than take a deep breath and think about what is required or not..

[ratter]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

my friend has just told me that she paid the machanic $1000 cash for repairs to the car , repairs to the steering i,m told , plus other stuff. so as to pass the car for rego, i think she got ripped off on workmanship, an lack of care.

I’m assuming she has no invoice if it was a cashie, or you mean she has an invoice just paid with cash money rather than card etc?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

my friend has just told me that she paid the machanic $1000 cash for repairs to the car , repairs to the steering i,m told , plus other stuff. so as to pass the car for rego, i think she got ripped off on workmanship, an lack of care.

There's a lesson here to not take up cashies because you have no recourse.

If you're going to insist on cashies then the discount better be more than the GST component because you're assuming all the risk.

[Pis-ton broke]

Originally Posted by ratter

I’m assuming she has no invoice if it was a cashie, or you mean she has an invoice just paid with cash money rather than card etc?

there was a receipt. i was just repeating her words, "paid with cash"

i only mentioned it to show that she is a genuine customer that is seeking the services of a machanic for car repairs to pass rego.

as opposed to "here's $30, i need a pink slip"

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

. who gives a f anyway?

You clearly Don't.. Otherwise you would've fixed the Light years ago..

Anyway happy Australia Day.


I'm done here..

[ratter]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

there was a receipt. i was just repeating her words, "paid with cash"

i only mentioned it to show that she is a genuine customer that is seeking the services of a machanic for car repairs to pass rego.

as opposed to "here's $30, i need a pink slip"

Ok so was not a cashie so goes part way of proving it was not a dodgy job.
What was actually done according to the invoice?

[Pis-ton broke]

Originally Posted by ratter

Ok so was not a cashie so goes part way of proving it was not a dodgy job.
What was actually done according to the invoice?

thats a good question, i asked and sounds like a steering bush , replaced steering wheel and possible other stuff, the receipt has been filed, somewhere.

[Dr Terry]

Originally Posted by russellw

The Victorian RWC check is no more comprehensive in terms of what it checks although it does include a windscreen test (about 3 minutes) and it costs between $100-150.

I think you've over-simplified that. The NSW Pink Slip is basically a brief safety check, but does include a windscreen tint test & brake test printout.

It is the NSW Blue Slip which is the equivalent of the Victorian RWC. The Blue Slip is required for a car that is not currently registered, i.e. it has been off the road for a while or has come from interstate. It is a full mechanical check & identity check & costs around $62 currently. To do properly it takes the best part of an hour, which is why many mechanics are not interested in performing them.

I am an accredited RMS Pink Slip inspector & often quote the fact that I can do a full check as per the book & pass a car for a Pink Slip, then the owner can drive out of my workshop & say do a burnout or something that will attract the attention of the local copper & he can then defect the car off the road, citing items that don't even appear on my check list.

Can you believe that a Pink Slip inspection does not include reversing lights or windscreen washers ?

Dr Terry

[happy1]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

thats a good question, i asked and sounds like a steering bush , replaced steering wheel and possible other stuff, the receipt has been filed, somewhere.

This thread is going nowhere, and suddenly we are discussing an unknown scope of work that was done to the same vehicle, also 3 months ago.

Suggest that this thread is stopped / locked. If the invoice is found and shows 'replaced lower ball joints' then a new thread could be started.

[fiestaz]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

"It’s a safety inspection that says on the day it met the criteria to be deemed roadworthy" on that day it was rooted. a flogged out ball joint will show.

the ute is basicly an a to b daliy, @about 185km round trip per day, high way travel, mature woman driver.

i cant argue that the worn ball joint didn,t show signs of bad road manners, i will be telling my friend to be aware of poor road travel/handling. and waving my finger at her.
i,m point the finger at the "road worthy inspection" as she did rely on this to have her car checked for road safety.

i think i will tell her about this post and she will see that a rego check is not worth the paper its written on.

So at 185kms a day, 5 days a week over 10 weeks the car would have nearly done 10,000kms? That’s plenty of kms for something to wear out, or go wrong

[AngryBfXR6]

I work in automotive spare parts, when mechanics call to order ball joints for different vehicles sometimes we get told why or what happened or maybe it's a warranty. Ball joints can fail without warning. Territory's, falcons, rodeo's, Navara's and hilux's all go through ball joints. We even sell oversized ball joints for taxis, cos the control arms fatigue or have too much play and the ball joints fall out.

Has the vehicle been lifted? Or big tyres? That can strain the ball joints and tie rod ends.

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[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

i,ve never know anybody to have a separated ball joint.

Seriously? have a quick squizz in the Territory forums