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Old 13-11-2013, 09:59 AM   #61
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Anyone who is interested in going down the tune path, expect to see the introduction of minor torque steer and wheel spin when WOT. It was inevitable when trying to put this much power to the ground in such a small car, but it is for sure now present.

Torque steer isn't as bad as, say, a Focus ST, but you can feel it tugging. Wheel spin off the line, yup. It's there. For sure. Prepare for even more when it's wet outside. The wheels spin up nice and good. Even on dry they do.

In case anyone was expecting this to not happen, a word of advice......
But you don't regret it right?
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Old 13-11-2013, 10:03 AM   #62
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No don't regret it. It's manageable at least. Just have to learn to not smash it!

That said, I wouldn't look at getting any more power out of this car. I thought about an IC (which would still be a good idea) and going a stage 2 tune (although none exist at this point) but that would make it even worse than it already is.
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Old 14-11-2013, 11:55 AM   #63
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It's been raining in Melb all week and I've def noticed lots of wheel spin and tugging steering wheel even with my stock FiST if I give it a little throttle. Can't imagine what it's like on wet roads with more torque from a tune :p
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Old 21-11-2013, 01:43 AM   #64
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Anyone read this? http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257BD600124EA7
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Old 21-11-2013, 02:06 AM   #65
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Don't hold you breath
I had meetings recently with Mountune and nothing has advanced with ford australia
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Old 21-11-2013, 08:36 AM   #66
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Yeah that's from back in August, probably when Ford and Mountune were working together to boost the hype of the MP215 package coming here. The hype most likely was to gain the interest of people and boost sales, with no intent to bring it down here.

Rewind back four years ago with the XR4. It was the exact same story then as it is now. It will never happen.
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:02 AM   #67
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Just received at email saying that the mtune handset will be available for sale later this week... Too late for some I suspect
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:39 AM   #68
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Just received at email saying that the mtune handset will be available for sale later this week... Too late for some I suspect
But this would still void warranty right?
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:40 AM   #69
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Yeah, until FoA gets on board (which appears to be if, not when)
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:52 AM   #70
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If I were a betting man if say they won't.
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Old 05-12-2013, 12:33 PM   #71
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Agreed, it's looking unlikely
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:08 PM   #72
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mTune is available.

Optional mountune intake..

Hmmmm..

$1200*/$600*

http://www.mountunestore.com/Product...age/JJLLARMOUI
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:12 PM   #73
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Yup. No support from Ford though.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:21 PM   #74
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Yup. No support from Ford though.
True..

Tempting to order, but voiding the warranty doesn't inspire confidence as its my daily driver.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:21 PM   #75
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unless you only drive it on weekends, you will soon rack up 100,000km's

then let the fun begin
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Old 13-12-2013, 10:21 PM   #76
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I just noticed the SCT tuners over in the USA are now available for the Ford Festiva ST

can someone from Herrod Motorsport confirm if this will become available for the Australian Version of the Festiva ST

The SCT tuner would be much better than any mountune or bluefin as you will be able to do custom tuning like the XR6 / XR8 Falcon's rather than use some generic tune map
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Old 14-12-2013, 02:48 PM   #77
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I just noticed the SCT tuners over in the USA are now available for the Ford Festiva ST

can someone from Herrod Motorsport confirm if this will become available for the Australian Version of the Festiva
It's a FIESTA they stopped makin Festivas years ago
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Old 14-12-2013, 04:43 PM   #78
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Haha!
Took my mrs 6 months to stop calling it the Festiva.
And she drives it every day..........
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Anyone who is interested in going down the tune path, expect to see the introduction of minor torque steer and wheel spin when WOT. It was inevitable when trying to put this much power to the ground in such a small car, but it is for sure now present.

Torque steer isn't as bad as, say, a Focus ST, but you can feel it tugging. Wheel spin off the line, yup. It's there. For sure. Prepare for even more when it's wet outside. The wheels spin up nice and good. Even on dry they do.

In case anyone was expecting this to not happen, a word of advice......
Hey Con how much quicker would you say it has made it to 100km/h and do you think wheelspin could be controlled a bit more with wider good quality tyres ?

Did you have to change the air intake at all or have you left it stock atm?

The missus has a 2010 zetec atm and have put slightly bigger rubber on that and it drives so much better so wondering about going for an ST and going the whole hog as far as tunes ,wheels etc as like the look of these ST's with aftermarket wheels. http://www.revotechnik.com/type/17041/13/
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Old 19-12-2013, 09:54 PM   #80
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I'm not really a believer that wider tyres will do anything on a fwd car. Rwd yes. But not on ours. It's a waste.

I would say it is quicker. The main diff is when in gear. Second gear is the most improved. It pulls quite well.

The Bluefin is made to work on a stock car. No extra mods needed. I am running a CAI though.
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Old 20-12-2013, 06:15 PM   #81
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sorry fiesta st

just got a email back from Herrod Motorsport they now can tune the FIESTA ST with the SCT tuners like they do with the BA-FG Falcons

this would be 100 times better than a generic preformance tune from mountune or bluefin
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Old 20-12-2013, 09:27 PM   #82
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Difference between off the shelf and custom tunes is negligible
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sorry fiesta st

just got a email back from Herrod Motorsport they now can tune the FIESTA ST with the SCT tuners like they do with the BA-FG Falcons

this would be 100 times better than a generic preformance tune from mountune or bluefin
Disagree, i had a generic tune on my old XR5T it drove great and the tune was awesome IMO.

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Old 21-12-2013, 12:16 PM   #84
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Is there a definitive line in the warranty t and c that talks about tuning or modifications voiding warranty?
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wouldnt the tuning depend on what other mods are done...
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Is there a definitive line in the warranty t and c that talks about tuning or modifications voiding warranty?
Well it's pretty common knowledge any modification will void warranty for that part. Tuning would essentially void the power train warranty.
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wouldnt the tuning depend on what other mods are done...
Generic tunes cater for bolt ons like intake intercooler exhaust. If you're going further with mods like bigger turbo and fuel system a custom tune would be better.
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sorry fiesta st

just got a email back from Herrod Motorsport they now can tune the FIESTA ST with the SCT tuners like they do with the BA-FG Falcons

this would be 100 times better than a generic preformance tune from mountune or bluefin

Lol. First of all, I hope you don't believe what they say. If you do, you don't know the basics of tuning. A hundred times better is a little car fetched. Secondly, the amount of play in this small engine is already pushed to its max with the tunes available. They're all the same. Anyone claiming they are getting more is bluffing beyond belief.

There is a reason no one has a stage 2+ tune available yet. The turbo is so small it cannot be pushed any harder. This engine will not crack more than around 230 horse, even with CAI, IC and TBE. If you want more, look big turbo.

Not to be a jerk, but do some research and learn how tuning works before making claims that a custom tune is 100 times better. It's far from it. But if you want to believe it, go ahead. You'll learn the hard, expensive way.
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Old 22-12-2013, 09:24 PM   #89
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each to their own buddy
No problem dude. Let me know when you get that tune on your car. I'd love to see what 100 times better looks like. Compare it to mine.
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