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24-07-2009, 01:34 PM
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24-07-2009, 01:36 PM
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24-07-2009, 01:36 PM
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24-07-2009, 01:38 PM
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OMG.. I have 100 & one questions to ask.. Should be good to get all the real facts & stuff when the offical announcement is made.
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24-07-2009, 01:39 PM
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maybe my comprehension skills are a little off, but i see no mention of the word 'falcon' in the article. it says 'ford' and 'territory'.
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24-07-2009, 01:39 PM
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press release very close
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24-07-2009, 01:41 PM
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The release will contain: No export program No Focus build program Diesel for Territory 4 cylinder Eco boost for Falcon and gas injection for IN6
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24-07-2009, 01:42 PM
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24-07-2009, 01:45 PM
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24-07-2009, 01:46 PM
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24-07-2009, 01:46 PM
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No contest, bring on the 4 cylinder. I hope it kills sales of the cruze. GK
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24-07-2009, 01:58 PM
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Ford Australian to build four-cylinder Falcon and diesel Territory
Jez Spinks, The Sydney Morning Herald, July 24, 2009 Blue Oval to kill off plans to build Focus small car in Australia in favour of more fuel efficient versions of its locally made vehicles. RICHARD BLACKBURN reports. Ford Falcon will gain a turbocharged four-cylinder engine in a bid to appeal to buyers looking for a more fuel efficient vehicle. Ford will abandon plans to build a new small car in Australia and instead produce a four-cylinder version of its existing Falcon range and a diesel Territory, according to sources at the company. The car maker will reveal its plans later today, but a source confirmed the announcement would centre on the introduciton of new enivronmentally-friendly engine technology for the Falcon and its locally built offroader, the Territory. Ford had planned to build the Focus small car in Australia from 2011, but is believed to have canned the project in favour of building a new turbocharged four-cylinder engine claimed to deliver six-cylinder performance with the fuel consumption and emissions of a small car. The Eco-boost engine has been developed by its US parent and Ford global product boss Derek Kuzak recently told media the company planned to have a four-cylinder engine in every car in its range. The Falcon will get the turbocharged petrol engine from early 2011, while the Territory will get a 2.7-litre turbo-diesel engine sourced from Jaguar. The Falcon is expected to have a power output almost equal to Holden's current V6 Commodore, while using about 8 litres of fuel per 100km, which is less than the automatic version of the current Focus small car. The diesel option will allow Ford to compete on level terms with the Toyota Prado and Holden Captiva offroaders, which both have diesel variants. Diesels make up more than half Prado's sales. Ford will also build a new, more technologically advanced version of its current six-cylinder LPG engine. The engine will use the latest liquid injection technology, which provides significantly more power while delivering better fuel efficiency. Ford planned to build 40,000 Focuses a year in Australia, with 15,000 earmarked for export. It is believed the car will now be imported from Thailand, which has a free trade agreement with Australia. Senator Kim Carr, Federal Minister for Innovation, Industry Science and Research, will attend the announcement at Ford's Broadmeadows headquarters. The new engine program is likely to receive funding under the Government's Green Car Innovation Fund, which has already spawned similar programs from Holden and Toyota. Holden has received $149 million in funding to develop a new small car, the Cruze, at its Elizabeth Plant in South Australia from 2010, while early next year Toyota will begin selling a hybrid version of its locally-built Camry sedan with $30 million funding. The Ford source said the new engine program would not affect the company's existing six-cylinder engine operations in Geelong. Ford had planned to close the Geelong engine plant in 2010 and import a V6 engine from the United States, but reversed the decision after receiving assistance from the Government late last year. All three local manufacturers are reshaping their operations in an attempt to come to terms with the shift away from locally-produced large family cars to offroaders and small, fuel efficient vehicles. Holden is believed to be working on a smaller 3.0-litre version of its V6 engine. |
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24-07-2009, 02:02 PM
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it's 1:01...where is the Official statement :voldar02:
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24-07-2009, 02:04 PM
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24-07-2009, 02:09 PM
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24-07-2009, 02:10 PM
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As a valued customer of Ford Australia, I wanted you to be among the first people to hear the exciting news contained in the following press announcement being published to the Australian media today.
FORD AUSTRALIA INVESTS $230 MILLION IN NEW FUEL-EFFICIENT ENGINES FOR LOCALLY PRODUCED VEHICLES • Ford Australia builds on its fuel economy leadership by adding three new, fuel-efficient engines as part of $230 million investment in sustainability initiatives. These initiatives add to Ford’s previously announced investment in engineering its I6 engine for Euro IV by mid-2010. • Ford continues global roll-out of EcoBoost by adding an all-new 2.0-litre, 4-cylinder EcoBoost engine to the Falcon range in 2011, the biggest environmental transformation in Falcon’s fifty-year history. • Ford is also introducing an advanced liquid injection LPG system for the Falcon and a clean diesel 2.7L turbocharged V6 engine for Territory. • Ford ends plans to build Focus in Australia due to changing global economic conditions. No job losses are expected as a result of the decision. MELBOURNE, Australia, July 24, 2009 – Ford Australia announced today it is investing $230 million to improve the fuel efficiency and environmental impact of its Australian-made models, including the first global application of Ford’s advanced 2.0-litre 4-cylinder EcoBoost engine in a rear-wheel drive vehicle, the Ford Falcon. This continues the global roll-out of EcoBoost, the new technology from Ford that provides consumers with an affordable engine that delivers up to 20 per cent better fuel economy and 15 per cent fewer CO2 emissions. Ford Australia is taking two other steps, in addition to EcoBoost, to offer consumers more choices for vehicles with better fuel economy and lower CO2 emissions: • In 2010, Ford will introduce an advanced liquid-injection LPG system for the Ford Falcon, providing customers with the most advanced LPG technology on the market and making the Falcon even more attractive to private, taxi and fleet markets. • The Ford Territory, the only Australian-made SUV, will receive a clean diesel version of Ford’s 2.7-litre turbocharged V6 engine, giving buyers the choice of an engine which improves fuel economy and reduces greenhouse gases. Today’s announcement is supported by assistance from the Australian Government’s Green Car Innovation Fund and the Victorian State Government. It is in addition to Ford's previous investment to engineer the company's locally manufactured I6 engine for compliance with Euro IV emission standards. Starting in 2011, the iconic Falcon, one of the largest-selling brands in automotive history and the first Australian-made car to be awarded a 5-star ANCAP rating, will become one of the greenest family cars in Australia with EcoBoost. Slated for a range of global vehicles – from small cars to large trucks – EcoBoost uses petrol turbocharged direct-injection technology to deliver improved fuel efficiency, emissions and driving performance versus larger displacement engines. As the first rear-wheel drive car from Ford to receive the 2.0-litre, 4-cylinder EcoBoost, Falcon is benefiting from the One Ford strategy of accelerating products that customers want and value – and then making those products available on a global basis. “Today’s announcements put Ford Australia in a strong position for profitable growth in today’s auto industry,” said Marin Burela, President & CEO of Ford Australia. “We are ensuring our core Falcon and Territory vehicles will have the most advanced, high-tech and cleanest engines possible. At the same time, this represents the biggest environmental transformation in the fifty-year history of Ford Falcon by giving buyers the newest engine in the Ford Motor Company stable. "Falcon customers will now have the choice of either the continually popular I6 engine, which will be Euro IV compliant, or one of the first global applications of Ford's EcoBoost, 2.0-litre 4-cylinder engines, while in a similar timeframe Territory customers will be able to access Ford's world-class clean diesel engine technology," Burela continued. Ford Australia also announced that as a result of changing global economic conditions, the company has ended plans to manufacture the Ford Focus in Australia. After assessing the global requirements and costs of producing the next Focus in Australia, Ford determined that the changing economic conditions meant it could not make a business case for profitably manufacturing the car at its operations outside of Melbourne. Ford’s new strategy allows the company to economically source small cars for the Australian market from overseas locations, while investing in leading-edge technologies to serve its core Falcon and Territory customers. The decision to not make the Focus in Australia will not result in any job losses. “Although difficult, this is the right decision for Ford Australia,” said Burela. “Ford Australia has a strong commitment to manufacturing in this country built on ongoing support from employees, customers, dealers, suppliers and government. Our investments today demonstrate not only our commitment to address climate change – but to bringing leading edge technologies to the Australian market." "Ford is fully committed to working towards fuel economy leadership in every segment in which we compete, across local and imported vehicles. In fact, later this year we will introduce the most fuel-efficient vehicle in Australia when we launch the Fiesta ECOnetic, which will be more economical than hybrids at only 3.7L/100km," said Burela. These significant projects add to a continued program of ongoing investment by Ford in the Australian market, including: • More than $500 million investment in the current FG Falcon range of vehicles. • Leading design and engineering work on Ford’s next generation compact pickup truck, which will eventually be sold in more than 100 countries. • More than $80 million invested at the Lara Proving Ground, including building the largest environmental wind tunnel in the Southern Hemisphere. • $21 million investment in ongoing production of the company's iconic I6 engine, which will become Euro IV compliant in mid-2010. “Ford is the only local manufacturer to increase market share in Australia over the past year. Last month, we reinstated two non-production days back into the production schedule as a result of rising demands. In June, Falcon Ute sales were their best since June 2006, the Falcon XR had its best monthly sales on record, and demand for the new-look Territory has exceeded our expectations” said Burela. About EcoBoost The EcoBoost program is part of Ford’s ongoing and wide-ranging global initiative to deliver fuel-efficient powertrain systems with the power and performance found in larger-displacement engines. EcoBoost will be offered on Ford vehicles throughout the world. On sale now in select Ford vehicles in North America, more than 90 per cent of Ford’s North American nameplates will be available with EcoBoost by 2013. The key to the EcoBoost system is the harmony between the turbochargers and direct-injection fuel system. The turbochargers recover energy from the exhaust that otherwise would have been wasted and put it back in the engine to gain efficiency. Simply, the turbocharging system puts more air into the engine for more power. A compressor increases or “boosts” the pressure of the air entering the engine. An intercooler reduces the air temperature before it enters the engine. About LPG The liquid injection LPG engine for Falcon is the most advanced LPG technology on the market. By injecting liquid LPG directly into each intake track, the system delivers better fuel economy, reduced CO2 and improved performance through a more precise metering of fuel to the engine. Initial analysis indicates liquid injection LPG technology can reduce CO2 levels 12 per cent or more compared to current LPG technology. About Clean Diesel Technology advancements are reducing the tailpipe emissions that diesel engines traditionally produce. Buyers of Ford's Australian-made Territory SUV will be able to get a clean diesel option that generates fewer greenhouse gasses, while at the same time giving them better fuel economy performance than comparable petrol-driven engines. Clean diesel variants of a new 2.7-litre V6 engine will reduce CO2 by up to 25 per cent from six cylinder petrol engines. Ford Motor Company, a global automotive industry leader based in Dearborn, Mich., manufactures or distributes automobiles across six continents. With about 205,000 employees and about 90 plants worldwide, the company's automotive brands include Ford, Lincoln, Mercury and Volvo. The company provides financial services through Ford Motor Credit Company. For more information regarding Ford's products, please visit www.ford.com. Best Regards, Graham Barrie signature Graham Barrie - National Manager, Ford Business Centre |
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24-07-2009, 02:10 PM
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24-07-2009, 02:13 PM
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(Take no offence). http://www.nbntv.com.au/index.php/20...adside-safety/
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24-07-2009, 02:16 PM
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So is the new diesel the same as the one in this review of the Jaguar 2.7 XF V6 Diesel as noted in this review of that car last year? So it would actually be a Peugeot/Citroen design already six years old? At least that means the bugs should have been well and truly ironed out of it.
-- This uses the twin-turbo 60-degree V6 engine carried over from the S-type. It's actually a Peugeot/Citroen design, now five years old and built in Dagenham, Essex at a plant belonging to Jaguar's former owner, Ford. The compacted graphite iron block/aluminium-alloy head engine has twin camshafts per bank, four valves per cylinder and weighs just 445lb. In other words it's modern, clever and lightweight. It's also powerful, delivering 204bhp and 320lb ft of torque, enough to give a top speed of 143mph, 0-60mph in 7.7sec and an EU Urban cycle economy of 27.1mpg, although we averaged a very creditable 35.3mpg in our tenure of mixed driving, including a couple of 100-mile journeys. The V6 fires quickly, idling with an almost industrial whirring, like a huge air-conditioning plant. The gear selector smoothly turns to Drive and the big cat pulls away with a polished alacrity. What the XF's V6 doesn't have in wheel-spinning urgency, it makes up for in refinement and mid-range pulling power. There's a slight band of vibration at 1,800rpm, but everywhere else the engine never betrays its turbocharged compression ignition origins. --
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24-07-2009, 02:17 PM
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IMO all good news. I've never understood why Ford Australia would even contemplate building the Focus locally when it is already being produced significantly cheaper elsewhere.
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24-07-2009, 02:18 PM
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Anyone got any links/details on the V6 TD or the I4 ecoboost?
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24-07-2009, 02:26 PM
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Hearing around 170kw and 320nm for the 2L ecoboost engine on other car websites.
http://jalopnik.com/5319439/ford-con...0-lb+ft-torque |
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24-07-2009, 02:26 PM
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This could be very interesting.
Current choice of medium-large RWD 4 cylinder cars in Australia BMW Mercedes Can anyone think of anything else? I can see where the potential export market is..... |
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24-07-2009, 02:29 PM
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Nothing in that release about an export program?
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24-07-2009, 02:29 PM
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The introduction of a Inline 4 Turbo would be a curious decision. Note the following comparison....
2009 Ford Falcon XT 6sp Auto 2009 Mazda 3 MPS 6sp Manual 2009 Ford Mondeo TDCi 6sp Auto 2010 Ford Fusion (EcoBoost claims from Ford US) Engine: 4.0L 6 cylinder petrol 2.3L 4 cylinder turbocharged petrol 2.0L 4 cylinder turbocharged diesel 2.0L 4 cylinder turbocharged petrol Power: 195kW at 6000rpm (91RON) 190kW at 5500rpm (95RON) 96kW at 4000rpm 171kW Torque: 391Nm at 3250rpm (91RON) 380Nm at 3000rpm (95RON) 320Nm at 1700-2240rpm 325Nm ADR Fuel Economy: 9.9L/100km 9.9L/100km 7.3L/100km Ford US Estimates...7L/100km Highway...10.5L/100km Urban Kerb Weight: 1704kg 1456kg 1604kg 1508kg (2009 AWD 3.0L V6) As far as performance goes, this doesn't present much of a case for a switch to a petrol turbocharged inline 4 cylinder for the Falcon unless they will get EcoBoost technology from Ford US. A four cylinder turbo diesel makes a little more sense. The results of this will be curious. All that said, Liquid Injection LPG will be an absolute winner!!!!!!
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Hmmm interesting news.
The LPG and diesel is certainly a winner. The I4T is going to be different. I think the power should be ok but the weight Ford put on the Falcon is a worry. If it is to be exported then the budget should allow for a large weight loss program. Ideally around 1550 - 1600kg at max.
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