"R-Spec" FPVs

Ives · 04-01-2007, 07:57 PM

I read an article on MOTOR magazine February 2007 issue about how Jost Capito (director of Ford Team RS) is impressed with the F6 and the GT. And in the article, MOTOR mentioned :-

"FPV and Team RS could also share resources to assist FPV in developing its own range of Focus and Fiesta-based high-po small cars.

Before then, FPV is preparing an optional 'R-spec' suspension and handling kit for the Typhoon and GT, with stiffer springs, tuned dampers and unique cosmetic features."

-MOTOR Magazine, February 2007, p.14

I thought some people here might want to know that.

**Polyal** · 04-01-2007, 08:03 PM

Ive heard the same, no idea on timing though.

Its a good diea to boost interest into an ageing car, not that its really lacking, but more options dont hurt.

AUIII XR8 MAN · 04-01-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperKid

MOTOR Magazine, February 2007, p.14

It's only the 4 day of January & they have released the February issuse? Getting a bit a head of then self.

I like the idea of having more drifferent option to choose from. Also i think Focus & Fiesta-based FPV models are a good idea & help company attract new types of custmors.

FPV8U · 04-01-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperKid

Before then, FPV is preparing an optional 'R-spec' suspension and handling kit for the Typhoon and GT, with stiffer springs, tuned dampers and unique cosmetic features."

Sounds good to me, wonder if you will be able to buy these kits for your older FPV's and say XR's to avoid warrenty issues?

**Polyal** · 04-01-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

Sounds good to me, wonder if you will be able to buy these kits for your older FPV's and say XR's to avoid warrenty issues?

Id say that would be a big yes.

parawolf · 04-01-2007, 09:24 PM

Cosmetic Features? you mean another chrome badge?

**Polyal** · 04-01-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by parawolf

Cosmetic Features? you mean another chrome badge?

Or even a really tacky "R" badge, and just to be original it will be just like the skyline GTR one!

**Bluehoon** · 04-01-2007, 10:16 PM

awww god, performance rice.... See what happens....

This R spec, had the opportunity ti discus this with prodrive last year, as they were looking into diversifying the options......

"Track Pack" as it seems, looks to have made it, unless this is just more usual motor BS....

**Polyal** · 04-01-2007, 10:20 PM

I think there is some truth to this one...its overdue, from what Ive heard the 6SA likes to hibernate once track work gets a bit to much.

Sledgehammer · 04-01-2007, 10:25 PM

R spec, stiffer springs, tuned dampers, sound like the mods that we make, LOL.

**Polyal** · 04-01-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer

R spec, stiffer springs, tuned dampers, sound like the mods that we make, LOL.

Thats about it really.

Why the heck should the after market guys make all the money!

And if you can keep your warranty (not sue if this is true or not, you would think it would be), then thats a huge advantage for Ford/FPV.

Would be good if you could option it on whatever car you wanted too, not just FPV's.

Jayden · 05-01-2007, 02:48 AM

Wonder what the cosmetics will be? hopefully they do a little body-work on the kit to set it apart from a GT. or else the lineup of FPVs that all look the same will be quite high.

Tles · 05-01-2007, 03:21 AM

When they finally get around to doing a Territory, maybe they can use FPRV

Orbit · 05-01-2007, 10:32 AM

rofl at fprv!!!!

flappist · 05-01-2007, 10:36 AM

If it truly is going to be a "track pack" then some method of cooling the diff is mandatory otherwise it would be a "short track with very few corners pack".

**Polyal** · 05-01-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by flappist

If it truly is going to be a "track pack" then some method of cooling the diff is mandatory otherwise it would be a "short track with very few corners pack".

LOL

At the end of the day it will be interesting to see how far the pack will go, I know transmission was a key area, other than that I have no idea.

Either way I dont see a pack thats going to please everyone, they have to have their limitations, as most of the components on the car are compromised in some way.

Still its a good, easy idea to make some cash..better than the Force idea anyway.

HSE2 · 05-01-2007, 12:12 PM

I believe the same edition of motor contains details on Walkinshaws Performance version of the GTS. 370kws and 740 nm at a cost of 130k.

**Polyal** · 05-01-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HSE2

I believe the same edition of motor contains details on Walkinshaws Performance version of the GTS. 370kws and 740 nm at a cost of 130k.

HAHAHAHAHHAHHA

Are they serious? They have their heads so far up there backsides its ridiculous!

Anyone paying over $100k for a new aussie built sedan are seriously on something.

You could get a M3 for that.

HSE2 · 05-01-2007, 12:25 PM

Ah I dont know if I am or not. Got a text message saying "Walkin back as kermit see motor- cost 130 -370 & 740."

Can't find anything about it here or on LS1

sbutler · 05-01-2007, 12:31 PM

Well if its true? its only taken 4 years for FPV to listen to the punters.
After the arrival of the BAGT in 02, the first thing that people were saying, is that the GTs were to soft, & I dont mean in the suspenion.

There is a flurishing aftermarket trade going now because the GTs were just not hitting the spot.
A hell of a lot of people were just dissapointed in there performance [or lack of it]
So aftermarket enterprise's spung up overnight. Delivering every bolt on known to man, to help people get what they wanted performance & handling wise.

FPV need to market this [track pac] or whatever there going to call, just right, & call it a GT.

They need the GTP as the cruiser as it is now.
But the GT as a bit more hard edge'd [track pac]which it should have been in the first place.

I see the GTP as not one or the other. Its got the big Brembos, big wheels, but chock full of luxury stuff.

The GT need to have the big Brembos, wheels, better suspenion & more KWs, less fruit, manual only, for less money than the GTP. Thats my 2c worth.

XRQTOR · 05-01-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

If it truly is going to be a "track pack" then some method of cooling the diff is mandatory otherwise it would be a "short track with very few corners pack".

I have never heard of anyone cooking their diff, but i did notice the cover plate on the BF diff has flutes for cooling where the ba diff doesn't.

DDXR6T · 05-01-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

You could get a M3 for that.

And I WOULD get an M3 for that. Not to mention about another 100-150 car's i could also find in that 130k bracket.

**Bluehoon** · 05-01-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by XRQTOR

I have never heard of anyone cooking their diff, but i did notice the cover plate on the BF diff has flutes for cooling where the ba diff doesn't.

Being a few threads around of this happening....

XRQTOR · 05-01-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sbutler

Well if its true? its only taken 4 years for FPV to listen to the punters.
After the arrival of the BAGT in 02, the first thing that people were saying, is that the GTs were to soft, & I dont mean in the suspenion.

There is a flurishing aftermarket trade going now because the GTs were just not hitting the spot.
A hell of a lot of people were just dissapointed in there performance [or lack of it]
So aftermarket enterprise's spung up overnight. Delivering every bolt on known to man, to help people get what they wanted performance & handling wise.

FPV need to market this [track pac] or whatever there going to call, just right, & call it a GT.

They need the GTP as the cruiser as it is now.
But the GT as a bit more hard edge'd [track pac]which it should have been in the first place.

I see the GTP as not one or the other. Its got the big Brembos, big wheels, but chock full of luxury stuff.

The GT need to have the big Brembos, wheels, better suspenion & more KWs, less fruit, manual only, for less money than the GTP. Thats my 2c worth.

I dont think the Ba gt's were lacking at all, they hit the spot when they were first released but now are starting to fall behind. A power jump and some suspension tweaks would be nice.

I do agree with you on the GT vs GT-P thing, The GT should be the bare version, 18's with good rubber, big brakes & GT-P style seats. The GT-P should get leather, 19's, climate controll & premo sound.

XRQTOR · 05-01-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan635

And I WOULD get an M3 for that. Not to mention about another 100-150 car's i could also find in that 130k bracket.

I thought M3's were $15o,ooo

**Polyal** · 05-01-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XRQTOR

I thought M3's were $15o,ooo

Pretty much dead on 130k IIRC. Im sure you could "haggle" a little bit anyway.

edit: http://www.carsales.com.au/car-valua...36118&search=1

Close enough when you are talking that much cash

sbutler · 05-01-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by XRQTOR

I dont think the Ba gt's were lacking at all, they hit the spot when they were first released but now are starting to fall behind. A power jump and some suspension tweaks would be nice.

I do agree with you on the GT vs GT-P thing, The GT should be the bare version, 18's with good rubber, big brakes & GT-P style seats. The GT-P should get leather, 19's, climate controll & premo sound.

Yeah thats were Im coming from as far as models lineup should sit. Your spot on!

But I dont think the GT hit the spot at all. Everyone got star'y eyed when they first came out & didnt look beond the badge. After a short time there were places popping up everywere offering power [bolt on] upgrade's everywere for them, that tells me they [owners] were expecting more & the GTs just wasn't delivering the rush..

Well thats what I found when I drove them, & by the looks of it I was right.

If FPV do this new model, I think being priced in the right spot, they'll sell well.
But they need to be a faster,lighter, better handling & cheaper car than the current GT.. Then HSV better look out!!!!

**Polyal** · 05-01-2007, 01:00 PM

I dont want to start a poo fight in this thread, but the T3 was not exactly a power house either.

And guys its not a new model, its an add on pack AFAIK.

MRJUCY · 05-01-2007, 01:05 PM

Oh this will be good. :P

HSE2 · 05-01-2007, 01:07 PM

I don't think it’s a new model but rather an extension of the option list which has been rumoured before. Could be wrong though.

As far as the GT not hitting the spot removing features isn't what is required or expected, in fact it’s the opposite. GT buyers are and would be asking why they have to pay more for less to get the equivalent amount of performance from a car wearing the blue oval.

Once donor cars get to a certain spec level the cost in removing features to save what essentially will be a minute amount of weight would end up adding thousands to the list price of the car, simply because the task would be labour intensive.

The number one issue with the GT is a lack of low down response which a tune will fix.
A retuned front end will solve much of the handling drama. Address those two issues and 99.9% of consumers will be satisfied.