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Old 10-02-2006, 07:26 PM   #1
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Default AU6 Flash Tune by G&D - every KW counts

With the advent of Fash Tune, G&D have been tuning an increasing number of Falcons.

Those of you with an AU will be well aware of the effort required for each KW gain. In the context of V8s and turbo sixes picking up 28 rwkw after a tune and mods may not seem a big deal. When you start at 119 rwkw and gain close to 28 rwkw you are approaching a 25% increase in rear wheel power.






G&D started with a stock AU six.

All modifcations were bolt on - the engine internals were not touched.

First the exhaust went to be replaced by Pacemaker competition spec extractors and a G&D spec mandrel bent 2.5 exhaust system fitted with a high flow metal substrate catalytic convertor.





The air inlet was replaced with the G&D Air Box and Intake Kit.




Using Flash Tune and G&D’s tuning expertise healthy gains were made in both power and torque throughout the rpm range.







If you want to book your AU in for a tune or simply want to know more about what G&D can do for your AU give Glenn or Matt a call on 5996 1813.












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Old 10-02-2006, 07:36 PM   #2
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im curious as to how much it would cost for what you have written above,

or just the flash tuner. with tuning (if needed. not sure of all the details on how they work)

and if you guys know about what sort of stuff happens with warranties if those mod's are done (or would i be ebst off ringing ford- my car is under extended warranty)
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Old 10-02-2006, 07:57 PM   #3
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Very good numbers from an XR6. Auto or manual?

Also, would have been nice to see what each mod actually did.


Oh, and its coming to Heathcote next time right?
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Very good numbers from an XR6. Auto or manual?

Also, would have been nice to see what each mod actually did.


Oh, and its coming to Heathcote next time right?
looks like a manual, according to the Dyno graph...





and im not to sure on how to read them, but it looks like the car has lost some down low... is that the case or am i jsut retarded :P
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and im not to sure on how to read them, but it looks like the car has lost some down low... is that the case or am i jsut retarded :P
It hasnt lost any down low , it just hasnt gained asmuch as it has up top.

Congrats and enjoy your new power....
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Very good numbers from an XR6. Auto or manual?

Also, would have been nice to see what each mod actually did.


Oh, and its coming to Heathcote next time right?
: Jobs right mate its on the truck with or with out the owner :the_finge lol.........
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: Jobs right mate its on the truck with or with out the owner :the_finge lol.........
Thats what I like to hear.

Competition is good, spurs me on!
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Thats what I like to hear.

Competition is good, spurs me on!
maybe I could just borrow it + put it back later if mine fails next time :
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maybe I could just borrow it + put it back later if mine fails next time :
well, you have this year to play with it.. I'm not in a position to change my car too much in 06 so your XR8 might have a chance... at least for this year :

(I know. it will kill me)
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:03 PM   #10
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thats impressive for headers/exhaust, intake and tune..

my car has made 136.7rwkw with just cat/back system and intake..
what gains do you think there are to be had with headers and custome edit tune?
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Has to be a manual, I agree.
Hasnt lost anything down low though, its an overall increase and the real low part of the graph is irrelevant anyhow, thats major low rpms no on would drive at anyhow. The real gains are there to see up high.

Mind you, at 119rwkw stock it's a hell of an engine to start with anyhow.. most XR6's dont run that stock.
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It's a manual,all testing was started from a low 1500rpm.Next step will be a camshaft upgrade.Unfortunately the owner isn't a drag racer but maybe we can pursuade him _2: Looking forward to applying this formula to some BA I6's.
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Mind you, at 119rwkw stock it's a hell of an engine to start with anyhow.. most XR6's dont run that stock.
Isn't that the truth, a freak engine!l
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mind you, at 119rwkw stock it's a hell of an engine to start with anyhow.. most XR6's dont run that stock.
Albeit mine is an Auto VCT but with just exhaust , mine managed 127rwkw.
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Albeit , mine is an Auto VCT but with just exhaust , mine managed 127rwkw.
VCT's run about 115 stock and with a full JMM exhaust thats not suprising at all. Mine was similar.
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VCT's run about 115 stock and with a full JMM exhaust thats not suprising at all. Mine was similar.
Damn , heres me thinking i have a factory freak :
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Damn , heres me thinking i have a factory freak :
afraid not :(
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Albeit mine is an Auto VCT but with just exhaust , mine managed 127rwkw.
Mine was dynoed with everything factory and I got 127. I think different dyno's tell a different story. You should have to do the before and after to guage how much of a % increase in power. This one tested did 25% increase at the wheels. I think that would give a more accurate figure to see the before and after on the same dyno. Would give an accurate account then.
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Mine was dynoed with everything factory and I got 127. I think different dyno's tell a different story. You should have to do the before and after to guage how much of a % increase in power. This one tested did 25% increase at the wheels. I think that would give a more accurate figure to see the before and after on the same dyno. Would give an accurate account then.
Thats exactly right. In the end though we can clearly see a 25% increase, regardless of the numbers. All in all an excellent result
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Albeit mine is an Auto VCT but with just exhaust , mine managed 127rwkw.
My VCT is near the same at 125rwk with just exhaust so in total stock form most should be 110-115rwk
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My VCT is near the same at 125rwk with just exhaust so in total stock form most should be 110-115rwk
Thats correct.
Its all "guesstimation" but its commonly accepted for the AU's that the Stock VCT will run 110-115rwkw and the stock HP's 105-110rwkw. Of course there is always variances to this but thats the generally accepted figures I have come to see more times then not.
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Regardless of the nit picking a 25 % increase in power is not too bad.
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Looks like I'll have to up the power or change the diff in mine. Too many manual XR6's with good power numbers getting around at the moment.
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Big numbers for a stockish AU (more than my ef anyway)
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i need headers and a custom edit tune after seeing that..
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Well done Glenn and the boys at G & D for getting behind other Ford models, it's another string to the bow and going by the interest generated there's no shortage of potential customers wanting their AU's going quicker
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can you run a turbo off a flash tune ? or would an aftermarket unit still be needed
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can you run a turbo off a flash tune ? or would an aftermarket unit still be needed
the factory MAP sensor only has a range of 1-bar, and most of that range is used to measure vacuum but you can replace it with a 3-bar MAP sensor and then re-scale the load tables to suit.. with the SCT-based edit, you can change the data in the tables as well as the values on the tables X and Y axis... just need a 2 or 3-bar map sensor and the edit.. so yes you can use the edit for forced induction...

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get something like the JMM interceptor that has its own MAP sensor....
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Waiting to see some T3's get tickled if the XR6's are anything to go by it should be good!!
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Thats a really good improvement for a stock internal engine. Just two question though if you could ..What would be the differences between manual and auto's power? Also the head on the test car appears to be a hp motor...would these results be similar with a standard AU six head?

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