MD diesel: Dual mass flywheel?

[AlanM]

Couple of questions...

Does the diesel in Australia have a DMF, being an automatic? I kind of think probably not, most automatics don't really have any flywheel at all... although it IS a DCT...

But if it does, has anyone had to replace theirs? How many km can one be expected to last?

[russellw]

The MD Mondeo Diesel when fitted with the MPS6/6DCT450 transmission (and perhaps other transmissions as well) does have a DMF. In terms of their life expectancy, it can be anything from 160-300k and sometimes more and the DMF alone is likely to set you back $700+.

[AlanM]

Thanks, although not what I was hoping to hear!

With their water pumps, thermostat housings, EGR housings, rear shock absorbers, electric handbrakes, electric steering racks and now this, it seems the MD is just loaded with expensive time bombs!

Starting to wonder if it's worth keeping it. We have a really nice MC...

[manchu]

Originally Posted by AlanM

Couple of questions...

Does the diesel in Australia have a DMF,
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But if it does, has anyone had to replace theirs?

MC diesel has DMF so I assume MD with DCT does too.

Mine was making some awful sounds recently but magically cleared up the next day. ~170,000km

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11499506

[AlanM]

On a bit more research, (and correct me if I'm wrong, information seems to be very thin on the ground) it seems that the MD has a DMF to replace the function of the damper springs in the DCT450.
The MD transmission is designated DCT451, and doesn't have the damper springs and plastic retainers that cause all the problems with the DCT450..

So eventually there will be a DMF to replace, but hopefully you avoid many of the transmission problems.

This might even be a positive trade-off!

[AlCan]

Hi Guys,

I'm new here - this is my first post (even though I joined a while back, but haven't had to ask much so far). Looks like that's gonna change...

I have a 2011 TDCi DCT Wagon, 259,000k's. Has had the dreaded (#1) clutch judder problem for a long time, but been living with it. Love the car despite this, and just bought a neglected 2013 Titanium TDCi DCT Hatchback cheap. It needs TLC, but the clutches & gearbox seem okay - what I focussed on when testing it...

Noticed that it (the whole car) vibrated a bit, but put it down to the RH engine mount being completely toast - "popped", cap half off, spitting oil everywhere, so didn't worry too much.

Later found that the vibrations varied a lot, depending on what side of bed it got out on. The next day, it vibrated like Hell! For a while I thought it might be a DMF issue but changing the mount fixed that.

Before I got hold of a used mount, did some research on the DMF question and found a heap of confusion out there, hence my question here. I got the new mount from a "Pull-it-yourself" wreckers yard, so got to see a lot more than just the Parts Counter. Found another 2013 (Auto of some sort), the engine was out, the trans gone, so got a good look at the flywheel. Definitely not a DMF, but quite thin to what I'd expect for a diesel. Have photo if anyone can tell me the best way to post it. It has an 8-position "dog" at the centre, that the DCT clutch pack (or Torque Converter?) obviously mates with, and this eliminated a lot of my concerns. Thought others would be interested to see it.

Anyway, my question - I can't figure out the MA, MB, MC etc marques. Nor can I figure out the engine designations but I'll ask that separately if necessary.

Can anyone tell me what the Mx designations mean, and when they change? My research seems to say year and/or body style, but if someone could clarify for me, that would be great. The Titanium seems to be a BA7 (if you believe our MV Registry data, a lot of which is wrong), and this just adds to my confusion.

All further comments welcome.


Cheers,
Al