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Old 24-04-2014, 06:48 PM   #3031
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Not sure they can tool up until they finish production of the GT-F's (presuming GT-F is based on FGII).

I believe September is the final production month of the GT-F so October would be the earliest for FH.
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Old 24-04-2014, 07:10 PM   #3032
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Can't imagine there will be much to 'tool up'.

FG to FH will see new bumpers, head/tail lights, bonnet, boot lid and a new button on the inside to make parking easier or something.

Have I missed anything?
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Old 24-04-2014, 07:18 PM   #3033
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Can't imagine there will be much to 'tool up'.

FG to FH will see new bumpers, head/tail lights, bonnet, boot lid and a new button on the inside to make parking easier or something.

Have I missed anything?
I actually thought the same thing, but a few forum members informed me there are some significant changes. I'm guessing this wouldn't affect the production line though would it, nothing really would change in the assembly side of things?
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Even more embarrasing would be the lower spec variants of the VF in HSV's stable getting whopped by a factory XR8.
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Old 24-04-2014, 07:27 PM   #3034
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like vultures scavenging over a dead carcass.

What's more to see?

Just wait for full reveal now,anything else will not do the car justice.
Vultures? I am eagerly waiting this car, so too would be many on here, and that makes us vultures? That's nice of you.
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Old 24-04-2014, 07:55 PM   #3035
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I agree with thunder!!!!!

It's exciting seeing bits and pieces of the reveal, and AFF should be thanking spyman! The forum has never been so popular.

From that comment I'm guessing you won't be posting or viewing this thread anymore jpfs1 like us other 'vultures'

Waiting for the dash pic spyman, I'll check back later ����������
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I don't need to see spy pics, doesn't mean I don't look at this thread. I've got various reasons for being interested in this thread.

My comment was just reflective of the image in my head. I saw the funnier side.
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Old 24-04-2014, 08:04 PM   #3037
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Old 24-04-2014, 09:35 PM   #3038
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has this already been covered?

why is a car manufacturer making a car they only intent to make for about 14 months? Or have I got my facts wrong?
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Old 24-04-2014, 09:46 PM   #3039
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has this already been covered?

why is a car manufacturer making a car they only intent to make for about 14 months? Or have I got my facts wrong?
Basically cheaper for Ford to deliver the updated model than refund the Federal Gov funding subsidy they got to develop it as part of making Falcon/Territory more fuel efficient.

Oct 2016 is the hard end date due to new emissions laws that are expensive to comply with - so basically maximising the ROI on the current FG/FH model up to the end assumming sales are still there to make it worthwhile
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Old 24-04-2014, 09:48 PM   #3040
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has this already been covered?

why is a car manufacturer making a car they only intent to make for about 14 months? Or have I got my facts wrong?
This should be no surprise, coming from a company that has a record of weird and wonderful decisions, and partly what made Ford Australia so awesome over the years.
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Old 24-04-2014, 10:30 PM   #3043
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Righto so where is it
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Just be on here tomorrow night you'll prob be shocked as I was when I was shown gamma2 FH interior

Xr8 will not get the push start that this car I was shown with the new nose had.and it had the GS in the headlights where as the xr's will have that xr8 (6) and was told the base Len will have a ford badge.

The local boys were givin the hard task with all this (shut down)

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Old 24-04-2014, 11:15 PM   #3044
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Old 24-04-2014, 11:23 PM   #3045
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Fantastic Pic. Thanks for that.

Of Course International is a old proud brand, a year older than Ford, that's also gone from our shores, and the Iveco factory that is in its place these days is incredibly shaky too.
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Old 24-04-2014, 11:34 PM   #3047
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Old 24-04-2014, 11:38 PM   #3048
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hmm, i wonder where mr spyman is...i think some people are waiting for a certain something

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I hope Ford "Marketing" have finally recognised the massive FAIL in their Marketing Strategy - by exclusively targeting insipid 20 something females, who they seem to assume are only interested in two F's.........NO, not that....boring Fuel Economy and Facebook.

If they ever recognise there is a much wider market (than girls who are generally not interested in driving), and re-discover some testosterone, and emphasise outstanding Driving Dynamics, Exhileration, Sport Performance (etc) - and even Sex Appeal, they might run the risk of gaining some street Credibility - and actually sell some cars.

They could not go wrong by revisiting the old BA TV Ad.....which actually sold cars !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDaLxN5FIjE
The problem is that non-enthusiasts are a far wider market than enthusiasts. There aren't many people that decide to buy cars because of the way it drives. Falcon is no longer a car for the masses, but a car catered to a niche market. People who want the new Falcon probably already know about it and are waiting to put a deposit on one. People who don't know about it probably wouldn't have bought a Falcon anyway, regardless of the advertising dollars spent.

BA was twelve years ago. Back then, the car was equipped and priced competitively. I don't think that can be said for the FG nowadays.

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Most young people arnt interested in driving, not just women.
They did a survey and the younger people saud they'd rather take public transport as they can play with their phone/tablets etc.
And that's a damn shame.

As soon as I was 16 and 9 months, I wanted to get my learner's permit, but dad said I had to wait another six months until I had finished year 12. The very afternoon after I had finished my last year 12 exam, I went straight to the Department of Transport to get my Learner's Permit.

Kids these days don't know what they're missing.
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Old 25-04-2014, 07:41 AM   #3050
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I think that was the issue. You may recall Holden tried selling a cheaper V8 (the VY SV8) but everyone who wanted a proper V8 sedan just paid a few more thousand and bought the SS.
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Kids these days don't know what they're missing.
Ain't that the truth. There's been a noticeable trend (last 20 years?) of hotting up the stereo in a car, and leaving the motor stock!!! Whereas we (old bastards) had 'STP' 'Moon-equipped' and 'Wynns' stickers, these days it's 'Kenwood', 'Bose', 'Oakley'.......

Having said that, it IS amusing to see a bomb car at the lights with large subs shaking the plastic bits audibly Crackle Clack Doof Doof Crack Split.

When i'm cruising in the FG, always have to do something with the missus' sunnies, as they make a similar noise in the door pocket like a busted speaker.

Looking at V8SC crowds/followers (from where future rev-heads are spawned) there's a healthy groundswell of guys and gals coming up through the ranks, albeit in a minority of the whole populace - but there's hope!!
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Not sure they can tool up until they finish production of the GT-F's (presuming GT-F is based on FGII).

I believe September is the final production month of the GT-F so October would be the earliest for FH.
Start of September is when 201X will go into production. There are small batches built every so often now, and that will increase over the next 3 or 4 months when the batches will get bigger until the date that FG production finishes, then it's all 201X.
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Apart from the updated ZF is there any other noticable difference in running gear etc ?
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Ain't that the truth. There's been a noticeable trend (last 20 years?) of hotting up the stereo in a car, and leaving the motor stock!!! Whereas we (old bastards) had 'STP' 'Moon-equipped' and 'Wynns' stickers, these days it's 'Kenwood', 'Bose', 'Oakley'.......

Having said that, it IS amusing to see a bomb car at the lights with large subs shaking the plastic bits audibly Crackle Clack Doof Doof Crack Split.

When i'm cruising in the FG, always have to do something with the missus' sunnies, as they make a similar noise in the door pocket image like a busted speaker.

Looking at V8SC crowds/followers (from where future rev-heads are spawned) there's a healthy groundswell of guys and gals coming up through the ranks, albeit in a minority of the whole populace - but there's hope!!
Its because fast cars on the street are becoming pointless now. You cant speed anywhere and risk losing your license or getting a yellow sticker. Its another reason why the 4WD scene is picking up.
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Old 25-04-2014, 12:30 PM   #3056
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i wouldn't say 'these days' - people were plastering their cars with stereo stickers 15 years ago, just before the neon washer jet lights became unfortunately popular
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true - 'these days' meaning last 20 years or so - about 13 years after AccaDacca got 'the new singer' - doesn't time speed up!

So hopefully, one more holiday weekend (Queen's birthday) between now and release of FH, and the weeks should hopefully fly past...

I think they'll let M.Motor and Wheels get shots around June/July for a July or August pre-release issue....
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Hey Spyman, weren't you going to drop a couple pics for us???
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Ford security have caught him and he is being waterboarded by Ford Customer Service Centre for releasing info.
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Hey Spyman, weren't you going to drop a couple pics for us???
he will, code for put them up tom night...... is next week i don,t even really care what the new falcon looks like. but do what you say your going to do. your word is all you got and i rekon it takes more than a tail light or a dash to get creditability in my eyes . but hay it may be just me and i suck.

you have access as close as some of those pics are you have access to the whole car in every way. either post or don't. but don't string people along.

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