Where are all the Falcon/ Fairlane Prototype pics - Page 2

FalconXV · 16-08-2018, 05:37 PM

Moar pls. Someone needs to get a book together with all these, does anyone know what happened to the archives? Also the wagon and Fairlane prototypes were apparently shown when they were giving tours of the design studio in 2010. This history needs to be preserved, as much as Dearborn wants it erased.

Syndrome · 16-08-2018, 06:24 PM

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I imagine they'd be buried in the documents about to be sent to Dearborn. If that happens, we will never see them.

Correct. All of Ford Australia's plans will be hidden from us so that we won't be able to see how Dearborn undermined the Australian operation.

Trevor 57 · 17-08-2018, 07:52 AM

A company I used to work for used to be given prototypes by Ford, and in the early days Holden and Nissan as well

We used them on a skid pan for driver training, when I look back it was such a shame, 'very special cars' trashed then sent to Sims Metal, if you Google hard enough you might find some pictures of some of them

XRFutura · 18-08-2018, 08:09 PM

Does anyone have pictures of the other AU falcon, the design that lost out to the new edge that we know and love (sometimes hate)

Sprint XR8 · 19-08-2018, 02:17 AM

davenl5l · 19-08-2018, 09:00 AM

Well looking at that the AU was mucm,much better

Syndrome · 19-08-2018, 11:27 AM

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They should have gone with the left side.

Nikked · 19-08-2018, 04:27 PM

Thing i love about that image is the date, 1994. Alot of people don't realise how long the design process is..

bathurst77 · 19-08-2018, 06:30 PM

Look how tiny the back door is.

Bolly47 · 19-08-2018, 07:23 PM

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where are employee now ? and who are they ? so hopefully they might able tell us something about building project .

Brazen · 19-08-2018, 09:25 PM

Man the AU looked so much better without those dicky wheel arches.

Syndrome · 19-08-2018, 10:18 PM

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Thing i love about that image is the date, 1994. Alot of people don't realise how long the design process is..

1994 and the EF was just about to be released when this picture was taken.

MethodX · 22-08-2018, 01:14 AM

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VE never felt like a Billion Dollars worth of development. Always wondered how much of that money went toward the stupid HOLDEN Blimp. The ED to EF makeover looked a Billion bucks, and so did the AU to BA Facelift

Do you always have to be so negative about anything GM? ffs.

malazn mafia · 22-08-2018, 02:38 AM

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Do you always have to be so negative about anything GM? ffs.

Don’t have anything against GM products. I admire the current range of Cadillac Escalades, Camaro’s and Corvettes. And my pick is VF over FGX, Holden won the last round and i’ll begrudgingly admit that. But the 2006 VE was a complete disappointment for $1bn of development. For the same amount of money, Ford Australia turned the AU into the BA, and also created the Territory from scratch.

mike_nofx · 22-08-2018, 10:11 AM

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Is that the team that designed it? Even without seeing their design, I can tell by looking at their clothes and haircuts that there’s no way they could design a good looking car.

Bossxr8 · 22-08-2018, 03:13 PM

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Do you always have to be so negative about anything GM? ffs.

Do you always have to trash Ford and praise GM on a Ford site ffs.

MethodX · 23-08-2018, 12:09 AM

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Do you always have to trash Ford and praise GM on a Ford site ffs.

I dont, thats the thing.
Its general automotive forum.

jpd80 · 23-08-2018, 10:14 AM

Early EA Ford Falcon Proposal
This was a stretched mid 1980s Mazda 626 that had been rebodied.
It was a reaction to the expectation of higher fuel prices.

The ill fated Capricorn project.......

Ford17 · 23-08-2018, 10:24 AM

Could I suggest a possible merge with this thread:
https://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11390802

It would keep all these things together.

malazn mafia · 24-08-2018, 01:37 AM

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Early EA Ford Falcon Proposal
This was a stretched mid 1980s Mazda 626 that had been rebodied.
It was a reaction to the expectation of higher fuel prices.

The ill fated Capricorn project.......

Thank ford, that this never saw the light of day. What even possessed them to design such an abomination? The current Opel Commodore actually sort of resembles a 21 century version of this, with its tailgate and 4 door body..

Bossxr8 · 24-08-2018, 03:35 PM

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Thank ford, that this never saw the light of day. What even possessed them to design such an abomination? The current Opel Commodore actually sort of resembles a 21 century version of this, with its tailgate and 4 door body..

I was thinking the same thing. A 4 door FWD liftback.

Holden always following.

jpd80 · 24-08-2018, 04:31 PM

The scary part about Capricon is that they wasted nearly two years on it in the
early 1980s and when they finally started EA, it was roughly two years late.

That's why we got XF MK II (ULP version) and form then on, Ford lagged Holden by two years

Syndrome · 24-08-2018, 07:48 PM

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The scary part about Capricon is that they wasted nearly two years on it in the
early 1980s and when they finally started EA, it was roughly two years late.

That's why we got XF MK II (ULP version) and form then on, Ford lagged Holden by two years

And never caught up.

GTP534 · 24-08-2018, 08:49 PM

.... but they did beat them to shut up shop (manufacturing), become profitable and make a much bigger commitment to engineering resources here ......

Syndrome · 24-08-2018, 09:14 PM

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.... but they did beat them to shut up shop (manufacturing), become profitable and make a much bigger commitment to engineering resources here ......

And how does that benefit Australia?

**Raptor** · 24-08-2018, 09:23 PM

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And how does that benefit Australia?

Did you miss this bit?

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...bigger commitment to engineering resources here ...

That's jobs and skills that are still here.

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Syndrome · 24-08-2018, 11:56 PM

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Did you miss this bit?

That's jobs and skills that are still here.

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At a loss of manufacturing and all the Tier 1 suppliers etc. wiped out.

Vormund · 25-08-2018, 01:56 AM

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That's why we got XF MK II (ULP version) and form then on, Ford lagged Holden by two years

Yeah it did feel like the XF went on for a bit long. Could have done with a facelift around 86.

You had both the VK and VL during that time.

roKWiz · 25-08-2018, 08:43 AM

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Yeah it did feel like the XF went on for a bit long. Could have done with a facelift around 86.

You had both the VK and VL during that time.

Probably one the reasons I get blank stares when ordering parts and tell them my car is a 93 XF.

jpd80 · 25-08-2018, 09:47 AM

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Yeah it did feel like the XF went on for a bit long. Could have done with a facelift around 86.

You had both the VK and VL during that time.

Yeah, VL was the ULP model for Commodore, that friggin Nissan engine almost sent them broke.
From memory, it was a $700 million Foul Up for two years resulting in VN with a push rod Buick V6...
How Ironic that Ford developed its own OHC I-6 for EA allbeit with some steam lock and head gasket
issues that were squared away with EA II and 4.0 EB.