Cops Keep Pulling Me Over In Front Of My House!!!!!!!!!!

sleekism · 02-12-2008, 10:47 AM

For the past month cops have been sitting down the road from my house and when me or my mrs drives past they flick on their lights with the result being I'm always pulled over in front of my home. Same story every time they check our licence RBT us and go on their way.

It was just annoying until the other day my mrs was driving and I was in the passnger seat coming back from up the road getting KFC and got pulled up. Unfortunately one of the p-plates had fallen off and so she copped a $200 fine. I tried to talk to the copper but he ignored me and walked off. It wasn't until I yelled out asking for his badge number that he angrily came back and gave me his name.

Now I'm eating 2-minute noodles for the next fortnight because of the cops taking my shopping budget. I know I'm not a model citizen but I believe I'm a good citizen. Both me and my mrs work hard have rented our own home since 17 and after 3 years of driving have collected only one driving offence each. Me 2.5 years ago for overtaking on double lines and my mrs 2.5 years ago for 15 kays over the limit.

The only variable is two months ago when my car was stolen and flogged around town receiving numerous reports. Surely I am not being punished for having my car stolen?

Hunter · 02-12-2008, 10:52 AM

Sounds like you p****d off cop somewhere?

ch33z1l · 02-12-2008, 11:00 AM

P Plate fines are ridiculous...my mrs got pulled over the other night, and becase it was a magnetic one, for whatever reason it wouldn't stick to the car, so she displayed it in the window. $190 fine and 2 points thanks very much.

Fev · 02-12-2008, 11:11 AM

god i hate that law.. sorry to hear about the losses sustained by it.. luckily i've only been warned because of it.. I gotta go back to the RTA and get some more damn plates..

FGII-XR6 · 02-12-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ch33z1l

P Plate fines are ridiculous...my mrs got pulled over the other night, and becase it was a magnetic one, for whatever reason it wouldn't stick to the car, so she displayed it in the window. $190 fine and 2 points thanks very much.

If there was no fine for not having P plates no one would display them the cops would not know you are exceding the P plate speed limit or driving a prohibited car so that would leave us with un enforcable restrictions . learner drivers ( yes P platers are still learning to drive thats why you are restricted) need to stop whinging and accept the restrictions till you are experienced drivers these restrictions are for publice safety not to annoy you so build a bridge

sleekism · 02-12-2008, 11:22 AM

Can I contest it??

I have wondered how if police targeted people because of race or religion it would be discrimination but it is okay to target someone because of age??

We often hear about "oppressed minorities" but at the risk of sounding melodramatic in our ageing country the young minority is often targeted.

Clint Eastwood · 02-12-2008, 11:22 AM

You have started numerous threads over the years about being "picked" on by cops,maybe you are doing something that attracts police attention?

gtxb67 · 02-12-2008, 11:24 AM

i am unsure as to how the p plates could fall off with such monotonous regularity. it is law they have to be displayed, so wouldn't it be a good idea to make sure they are on. we still have the suction cups attached to our window, almost a year since the plates were last used. it is not like they fall off if attached properly - we were regularly taking the plates on and off, but the suction cups never moved

Fev · 02-12-2008, 11:29 AM

we cannot have them inside the car now.. they must be displayed outside the car which is the crap thing. i never had a problem when i had the sticky rubber type ones on the inside of the windscreen(except on a really hot day they wouldnt stick sometimes) and now they are stolen or fall off all the time

and they were completely visible - i dont even have window tint..

sleekism · 02-12-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

If there was no fine for not having P plates no one would display them the cops would not know you are exceding the P plate speed limit or driving a prohibited car so that would leave us with un enforcable restrictions . learner drivers ( yes P platers are still learning to drive thats why you are restricted) need to stop whinging and accept the restrictions till you are experienced drivers these restrictions are for publice safety not to annoy you so build a bridge

So when the p-plates come off I instantly become a better driver??? After doing a computer test red p-platers can suddenly handle the exponential increase in danger from increasing your speed from 90km/h to 100km/h?? I have my full motorbike licence which took 15 months but a car takes 4 years?? After driving a FWD Kia for 4 years removing p-plates instantly enables me to handle a twin turbo V8? This is all about taxing a minority thus why 'S' plates for seniors is dead in the water!

Fev · 02-12-2008, 11:32 AM

lets not open up that can-o-worms

sleekism · 02-12-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fev

lets not open up that can-o-worms

True dont want to get this thread closed. I just want to know if I can write to the comissioner or something?

FGII-XR6 · 02-12-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sleekism

So when the p-plates come off I instantly become a better driver??? After doing a computer test red p-platers can suddenly handle the exponential increase in danger from increasing your speed from 90km/h to 100km/h?? I have my full motorbike licence which took 15 months but a car takes 4 years?? After driving a FWD Kia for 4 years removing p-plates instantly enables me to handle a twin turbo V8? This is all about taxing a minority thus why 'S' plates for seniors is dead in the water!

no I am saying P platers are still learning to drive and should stop whinging about restrictions imposed to improve public safety. P platers on here are the biggest bunch of whingers I have come accross you are still learners accept that . when you are a big boy you can drive faster and drive a big boys car but you have to grow up first ( with the restrictions in place you might even get the chance )

King Nothing · 02-12-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gtxb67

i am unsure as to how the p plates could fall off with such monotonous regularity. it is law they have to be displayed, so wouldn't it be a good idea to make sure they are on. we still have the suction cups attached to our window, almost a year since the plates were last used. it is not like they fall off if attached properly - we were regularly taking the plates on and off, but the suction cups never moved

As Fev has said, we have to display them on the outside here in NSW. Not a problem for me anymore, on my full licence now. But my fiancee is still on hers and they are always stolen off of her car, even when zip tied on. I travelled on the freeway a lot and I often lost them as well. It's open to, well not what I'd call abuse, maybe more unfair targetting purely because your p-plate fell off 100m back down the road.

ltd_on20s · 02-12-2008, 11:55 AM

get a camera. take photos of where they sit, dates, times and log it all down. every time they pull you over record the conversation. advise them that you are recording the conversation as you are legally obliged to. dont tell them you are taking photos tho. then walk into a solicitors office and take legal action over police harrasment. im pretty sure once they know you are recording everything they will back off. if what your saying is correct thats a pretty big waste of police resources.....

gtxb67 · 02-12-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fev

we cannot have them inside the car now.. they must be displayed outside the car which is the crap thing. i never had a problem when i had the sticky rubber type ones on the inside of the windscreen(except on a really hot day they wouldnt stick sometimes) and now they are stolen or fall off all the time

and they were completely visible - i dont even have window tint..

sorry, i am ignorant of the nsw law (and maybe others too). it was always a common trick here and no doubt, the other states to pretend it fell off when they were not displayed. i never used the magnetic ones because of the potential of theft. if the car is only driven by a p plater, can you not tape them to the windscreens. it would not harm the paintwork and would make sure that even if they come off - you would know about it

BlackLS · 02-12-2008, 11:59 AM

Part of having P's.

I haven't been pulled over once since I got off my P's. On my reds I was pulled over almost weekly.

Fev · 02-12-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxb67

sorry, i am ignorant of the nsw law (and maybe others too). it was always a common trick here and no doubt, the other states to pretend it fell off when they were not displayed. i never used the magnetic ones because of the potential of theft. if the car is only driven by a p plater, can you not tape them to the windscreens. it would not harm the paintwork and would make sure that even if they come off - you would know about it

would you sticky tape things to your car? heh

sleekism · 02-12-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxb67

sorry, i am ignorant of the nsw law (and maybe others too). it was always a common trick here and no doubt, the other states to pretend it fell off when they were not displayed. i never used the magnetic ones because of the potential of theft. if the car is only driven by a p plater, can you not tape them to the windscreens. it would not harm the paintwork and would make sure that even if they come off - you would know about it

That's another problem. I'm off my P's soon but my mrs isn't for another 6 months so there is going to be a lot of p-plates coming on and off and if one day the mrs forgets to put them back on.................

**Peuty** · 02-12-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

when you are a big boy you can drive faster and drive a big boys car but you have to grow up first ( with the restrictions in place you might even get the chance )

Somehow I don't think that's how it works.

I had a guy doing the defensive driver course the other day in a Porsche, couldn't drive for peanuts.

Sleekisim, if your partner can't remember that it is her responsibility to put the plates on when she is driving, then that is her problem.

vztrt · 02-12-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxb67

i am unsure as to how the p plates could fall off with such monotonous regularity. it is law they have to be displayed, so wouldn't it be a good idea to make sure they are on. we still have the suction cups attached to our window, almost a year since the plates were last used. it is not like they fall off if attached properly - we were regularly taking the plates on and off, but the suction cups never moved

When I was on my P's on a hot day (i was working) my rear p-plat fell off. I didn't notice as I was driving. But the cops did intentionally pulled over (as they were in front of me) then pulled me over as I only had one p-plate "displayed". But I got let off after I explained the heat in the car (they could also see I was working) made the plate fall off, I also think they noticed the heat coming form the car as I had no a/c in it.
So plates can fall off. Stupid law to have to lose points over it.

gtxb67 · 02-12-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fev

would you sticky tape things to your car? heh

yes i would stick something to my windscreen (read my post) because it is glass and the tape residue would clean off and not mark it like it would mark the paint. i would certainly do it if it would save me money from getting fines, but then i am not a rebel so i play within the law and stay relatively happy and do not have the need to go on about how unfair life is

sleekism · 02-12-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

Sleekisim, if your partner can't remember that it is her responsibility to put the plates on when she is driving, then that is her problem.

My problem as it comes out of my wallet lol

They should at least make fines relative to your income like in some countries (Finland?) $190 isn't a lot for some people but with rent and bills to pay $190 is practically taking the food out of my mouth.

I'm off my p-plates soon but I pity people just getting their P's now. I have no sympathy for all the pretty boys in riceburners whos mummy will happily pay their fines and who discredit my arguments.

gtxb67 · 02-12-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sleekism

My problem as it comes out of my wallet lol

They should at least make fines relative to your income like in some countries (Finland?) $190 isn't a lot for some people but with rent and bills to pay $190 is practically taking the food out of my mouth.

I'm off my p-plates soon but I pity people just getting their P's now. I have no sympathy for all the pretty boys in riceburners whos mummy will happily pay their fines and who discredit my arguments.

the fine should be a good reminder to display the plates

if she gets caught and you get the bill - don't give her sex for a week, she will come around soon enough

ch33z1l · 02-12-2008, 12:41 PM

I never opposed the law, it was the fine and 2 demerit points I was opposing, even when there was a P plate on the front...just the one in the window, ur copped with the same amount and points as someone not showing any!

FPV GT · 02-12-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sleekism

The only variable is two months ago when my car was stolen and flogged around town receiving numerous reports. Surely I am not being punished for having my car stolen?

There may lie your problem. The car will have intel associated with it. Even if / when you sell the car the intel will remain, bad luck for the next owner.
If at the time of runnig a check on your car, if the officer dosent correlate the time when the car was stolen to the time when the intel was generated.....bad luck....the target has landed on you.

Do do the current affair trick and video / audio tape the officer.
That is unless you want more hassles. SERIOUSLY DO NOT DO THIS.

Approach your Local Area Command and talk with the liason officer and mention, all be it in a polite and friendly manner, the attention you seem to be grabbing, and how the recent theft of your car may have something to do with this.

Not wanting to stero-type or annoy anyone, but when you make contact make sure you are suitably dressed. Thongs, boardies, hoodies...nope, no way!

A mates daughter was always being pulled over because the car's previous owner had drug dealers for mates.
She made contact, and guess what, dosent get pulled over....
She is a P plater in a loud, lowered falcon with mags.

Regards
Paul

sleekism · 02-12-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxb67

the fine should be a good reminder to display the plates

if she gets caught and you get the bill - don't give her sex for a week, she will come around soon enough

I think I will crumple first. No man can go a day without sex.

fiery · 02-12-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

no I am saying P platers are still learning to drive and should stop whinging about restrictions imposed to improve public safety. P platers on here are the biggest bunch of whingers I have come accross you are still learners accept that . when you are a big boy you can drive faster and drive a big boys car but you have to grow up first ( with the restrictions in place you might even get the chance )

Interestingly enough Learner Drivers seem to have less restrictions than P platers. I realise that whilst on learners they have a licenced driver next to them and once on P's on their own if wish. Most of the laws are ok I guess but the one that irritates me the most is the fact that on Learners they can do 100 or 110 (as is sign posted on highways) but once on Ps they are to do 90 in the 100 or 110.. I honestly don't quite get that.

**Peuty** · 02-12-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sleekism

I think I will crumple first. No man can go a day without sex.

She must be half decent if you are willing footing the bill for her discrepancies.

Stuff that if you ask me.

Laminge · 02-12-2008, 12:54 PM

Geesh 2 cop threads in the pub on one day, 200% chance of more than one person being banned, awesome!

Sleekism, FPV GT makes some excellent points, contest it in court or write to the police station, No sympathy for those that can afford the fines but when you living on the edge then you need to explore all options.

NB. Liquid Nails, or screw the bastard into the panel!