No Bronco for Oz ???

[ozrunner]

Seems we may not get the new Bronco.

If it looks like the pics in this link I can only say thank Christ

https://www.caradvice.com.au/819777/...edium=Referral

[naddis01]

Those pictures are almost 20 years old. I doubt it will look like that.

World premiere, spring 2020 at the end of the video suggests it may be sold outside the US. Although they think the world revolves around them.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by naddis01

end of the video suggests it may be sold outside the US.

as long as its in to a left hand drive compatible environment

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by ozrunner

Seems we may not get the new Bronco.

If it looks like the pics in this link I can only say thank Christ

https://www.caradvice.com.au/819777/...edium=Referral

Nothing like those.
The front will remind you of a MK2 Escort (round lights)
the rear canopy is a bloody clever bit of kit.

[jpd80]

[QUOTE=jpd80;6390297]Nothing like those.
The front will remind you of a MK2 Escort (round lights)
the rear canopy is a bloody clever bit of kit.

[naddis01]

[QUOTE=jpd80;6390301]

Originally Posted by jpd80

The front will remind you of a MK2 Escort (round lights)

Like this?...

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by eaglem

Still looking clean

Nice ....

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by roddy1960

Nice ....

yer but its not a Bronco !
tbh it does little for me , if i was to go a mustang it be one of the older ones (60's~70's)

[jpd80]

[QUOTE=naddis01;6390310]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Like this?...

image

Yeah it looks great, wait till you see the rest of it.

[CoupeKing]

Rather than start a new thread:

[Sioso]

https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...sguise-123242/



Reborn SUV icon leaked ahead of official reveal later this year, will battle Jeep Renegade

Fresh pics of a completely undisguised Ford Bronco Sport have been leaked online ahead of its launch later this year.

Not to be confused with the body-on-frame Ford Ranger-based big Bronco, that's also under development, the Bronco Sport has been created to rival small SUVs like the Mazda CX-3 and Jeep Renegade and the pics, posted by BroncoSportForum, suggest the car captured is production-ready.

Featuring circular LED headlamps, that pay tribute to the first-gen Bronco, the small Ford SUV gets rugged looks and an imposing 'BRONCO'-branded grille.

Towards the rear of the car the Ford Bronco Sport features a clamshell bonnet, a slab-sided body and heavy use of black protective plastic on the arches and sills.

A steeply raked screen, large roof rack and stepped belt line suggest that Ford might be out to steal some of the hype surrounding the recently launched Land Rover Defender.

At the rear, there's a military-spec stamped boot lid, large D-shaped tail lamps and split-screen tailgate and yet more huge 'Bronco Sport' badging.

Ford has yet to release any formal information regarding the Bronco Sport but it's thought it will share engine and transmissionswith the bigger Escape.

That means the Bronco Sport engine range is set to kick-off with the car-maker's turbocharged 1.5-litre three-cylinder Ecoboost engine that should produce around 134kW and 240Nm.

An even more powerful 2.0-litre turbo could also be offered while some Euro markets might get an entry 1.0-litre turbo triple petrol.

There's no word when the Bronco Sport will be revealed, but it could be as soon as next month say some reports.

[Sioso]

https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...xposed-123249/



The baby Bronco was leaked, and now big daddy full-size Bronco has busted out

The Bronco has gone berko. First images of the 'small' Ford Bronco Sport were leaked and now it seems that the full-sized big Bronco has been exposed as well.

The single low-resolution image of what is claimed to be the 2021 Ford Bronco was posted by FullSizeBronco.com and shows off a butch, somewhat retro design, not unlike arch-rival, the Jeep Wrangler.

Blocky, square shoulders and upright pillars designed to big provide good outward vision will be useful when off-roading, as will pumped wheel arches covering chunky mud-plugging tyres.

The new 2021 Ford Bronco windscreen appears more upright than its baby brother's, the Bronco Sport compact SUV, but they both share similar circular LED headlamps that are a tip of a hat to the classic Bronco that first appeared in the mid-1960s.

Bold 'Bronco' lettering knit the headlights together but the open bonnet means the complete picture will have to wait.

While the tailgate is open, it is difficult to see the smaller details given the low resolution.

Unlike the baby Bronco, this full-size machine is based on the same ladder chassis architecture as the Aussie-developed Ford Ranger.
FullSizeBronco forum's render of the new Bronco

Alas, the Aussie roots do not mean that the 2021 Ford Bronco will come Down Under. Ford Australia says it's not interested in the Bronco because the Ranger ute is selling so strongly.

Ford Australia also already offers the Ford Ranger-based Everest 4x4 SUV in Australia. In any event, with no plans for right-hand drive versions of the Bronco, any wishing or speculation is, at least for the time being, moot points.

“There are currently no plans in place for right-hand drive Bronco," Ford Australia president Kay Hart previously told carsales.com.au, without completely ruling out the US-built Bronco.

"We’re happy with the [local SUV] line-up as it stands, but that’s not to say we wouldn’t look to add to the range in future."

Like the Jeep Wrangler, one of the drawcard features of the Ford Bronco will include a removable roof – and possibly removable doors.

Engine options for the US-built, full-size Ford Bronco will be petrol only and are expected to include similar fare to US-spec Ford Ranger utes, which means a 2.3-litre turbo-petrol inline four-cylinder powerplant is a certainty.

Petrol-electric hybrid versions of the Bronco are tipped to join the fray in due course and there's scope for a more potent 2.7-litre turbo-petrol V6. Transmissions are expected to be a seven-speed manual along with Ford’s established 10-speed automatic transmission

Most exciting of all, is talk of a Ford Mustang-powered V8 Bronco Raptor, not unlike the proposed Ford Ranger Raptor V8 that is said to be in developed for Australia.

[jpd80]

Unfortunately we’ll never see them here because Ford can’t or won’t develop RHD
they honestly think we’d prefer sh’box Everest and Escape over these.

[Bossxr8]

I'd hate to be in the location these photos were taken. The heat would be at boiling point.

Official release was rumoured to be sometime this month.

[Sioso]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I'd hate to be in the location these photos were taken. The heat would be at boiling point.

Official release was rumoured to be sometime this month.

On the lookout for someone with a crap camera............

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Unfortunately we’ll never see them here because Ford can’t or won’t develop RHD
they honestly think we’d prefer sh’box Everest and Escape over these.

I don't understand why. The Bronco is clearly smaller than Everest, especially the 3 door, and more hardcore off-road. Wouldn't think there would be much buyer crossover between the 2.

The Everest is a Prado competitor, while the Bronco is a Wrangler rival.

Typical US "we are the whole world, and we are all that matters" mentality.

[FlipXW]

Once again we get screwed over. I’d take that 4 door Bronco in a heartbeat.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Unfortunately we’ll never see them here because Ford can’t or won’t develop RHD
they honestly think we’d prefer sh’box Everest and Escape over these.

Everest is Not a **** box mate it’s a really nice off-road SUV 👎

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Everest is Not a **** box mate it’s a really nice off-road SUV 👎

Ok, I overstepped the mark in hopes of drawing out someone like you.
Apologies for taking a shot at Everest. I know that you have a big soft
spot for it and in fact, I extend apology to all Everest owners.

Please, for a moment imagine you’re the program director for Ranger/Everest/ Bronco
Given the benefit of hindsight, Is there something that you would do differently with Everest to give it a better chance of sales in our market. Ford told us it was benchmarked against Prado but sales have obviously been disappointing for Ford.

Is this just marketing’s fault or are ther certain deficiencies that were let through that now hold it back from being truly great?

I’m asking because Ford has made certain admissions about the time lag from concept to new product being too long and I suspect that’s what happened with Everest, the market research was out of date before the project finished.

I’ll start it off by saying that the body is too rounded
And the Ranger nose is something that detracts from
a product that should have its own identity, not just
aRanger S/W

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Ok, I overstepped the mark in hopes of drawing out someone like you.
Apologies for taking a shot at Everest. I know that you have a big soft
spot for it and in fact, I extend apology to all Everest owners.

Please, for a moment imagine you’re the program director for Ranger/Everest/ Bronco
Given the benefit of hindsight, Is there something that you would do differently with Everest to give it a better chance of sales in our market. Ford told us it was benchmarked against Prado but sales have obviously been disappointing for Ford.

Is this just marketing’s fault or are ther certain deficiencies that were let through that now hold it back from being truly great?

I’m asking because Ford has made certain admissions about the time lag from concept to new product being too long and I suspect that’s what happened with Everest, the market research was out of date before the project finished.

I’ll start it off by saying that the body is too rounded
And the Ranger nose is something that detracts from
a product that should have its own identity, not just
aRanger S/W

I remember when I very first looked at the inside of an Everest (having owned 3 Territory's) I thought it's not as good inside, narrower and costs a lot more, the Terry V6 diesel is rediculously smooth while the 5cyl Everest isn't...and that external Ranger station wagon comparison again makes the $$'s hard to accept. Yes i know Everest isn't aimed at Territory owners but if you ask more you expect more...

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by wodahs

as long as its in to a left hand drive compatible environment

When can we change to LHD?

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Ford told us it was benchmarked against Prado but sales have obviously been disappointing for Ford.

that is certainly not the message we were given last week.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

I remember when I very first looked at the inside of an Everest (having owned 3 Territory's) I thought it's not as good inside, narrower and costs a lot more, the Terry V6 diesel is rediculously smooth while the 5cyl Everest isn't...and that external Ranger station wagon comparison again makes the $$'s hard to accept. Yes i know Everest isn't aimed at Territory owners but if you ask more you expect more...

If you could somehow graft Territory’s top hat, space and (3.0 V6) diesel
into Everest, I think it would again be a worthy alternative to Explorer.
The interior hip, shoulder and rear legroom of Ranger crew cab is closer
to a Focus than a mid sized vehicle. Yes, Everest has more rear legroom
but really we were spoiled by Territory.

[xr8territory]

Originally Posted by Sioso

https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...sguise-123242/

image

Reborn SUV icon leaked ahead of official reveal later this year, will battle Jeep Renegade

Fresh pics of a completely undisguised Ford Bronco Sport have been leaked online ahead of its launch later this year.

Not to be confused with the body-on-frame Ford Ranger-based big Bronco, that's also under development, the Bronco Sport has been created to rival small SUVs like the Mazda CX-3 and Jeep Renegade and the pics, posted by BroncoSportForum, suggest the car captured is production-ready.

Featuring circular LED headlamps, that pay tribute to the first-gen Bronco, the small Ford SUV gets rugged looks and an imposing 'BRONCO'-branded grille.

Towards the rear of the car the Ford Bronco Sport features a clamshell bonnet, a slab-sided body and heavy use of black protective plastic on the arches and sills.

A steeply raked screen, large roof rack and stepped belt line suggest that Ford might be out to steal some of the hype surrounding the recently launched Land Rover Defender.

At the rear, there's a military-spec stamped boot lid, large D-shaped tail lamps and split-screen tailgate and yet more huge 'Bronco Sport' badging.

Ford has yet to release any formal information regarding the Bronco Sport but it's thought it will share engine and transmissionswith the bigger Escape.

That means the Bronco Sport engine range is set to kick-off with the car-maker's turbocharged 1.5-litre three-cylinder Ecoboost engine that should produce around 134kW and 240Nm.

An even more powerful 2.0-litre turbo could also be offered while some Euro markets might get an entry 1.0-litre turbo triple petrol.

There's no word when the Bronco Sport will be revealed, but it could be as soon as next month say some reports.

That is as ugly as sin. looks like a 2002 Freelander only cheaper.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by simon varley

that is certainly not the message we were given last week.

Which, benchmarking or dissapointment...as I clearly remember reading Prado was one of the benchmarks...

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by jpd80

If you could somehow graft Territory’s top hat, space and (3.0 V6) diesel
into Everest, I think it would again be a worthy alternative to Explorer.
The interior hip, shoulder and rear legroom of Ranger crew cab is closer
to a Focus than a mid sized vehicle. Yes, Everest has more rear legroom
but really we were spoiled by Territory.

I don't think at the time of setting the Ranger plans they envisaged it would end up being bought both as a work vehicle and one that covers some former Falcon and Terry buyers.
On a side note, I still don't understand how an Australian designed Ranger can't fit a standard Aust pallet between the wheel arches whereas only the VW Amarok can?
I still keep thinking they should have not bothered with FG-X and spent everything on one more Terry update...3.0L V6, 8speed ZF, upcoming safety tech from OS Ford divisions, Sync3,

Reading the latest GoAuto News, (on another side note) I didn't realise the Jeep Compass sold here is built in India and is claimed to be as good if not better offline quality to any other Jeep plant. Any chance the Indians suddenly can take a liking to a Bronco or three or an F-150 or a Lincoln Aviator???

[Nu66et]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Ok, I overstepped the mark in hopes of drawing out someone like you.
Apologies for taking a shot at Everest. I know that you have a big soft
spot for it and in fact, I extend apology to all Everest owners.

Please, for a moment imagine you’re the program director for Ranger/Everest/ Bronco
Given the benefit of hindsight, Is there something that you would do differently with Everest to give it a better chance of sales in our market. Ford told us it was benchmarked against Prado but sales have obviously been disappointing for Ford.

Is this just marketing’s fault or are ther certain deficiencies that were let through that now hold it back from being truly great?

I’m asking because Ford has made certain admissions about the time lag from concept to new product being too long and I suspect that’s what happened with Everest, the market research was out of date before the project finished.

I’ll start it off by saying that the body is too rounded
And the Ranger nose is something that detracts from
a product that should have its own identity, not just
aRanger S/W

Ford should've just concentrated on being a competitor to the Fortuner, Pajero Sport/Challenger, MU-X etc.

[Rastas]

No to Bronco

Yes to GV80

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

I don't think at the time of setting the Ranger plans they envisaged it would end up being bought both as a work vehicle and one that covers some former Falcon and Terry buyers.
On a side note, I still don't understand how an Australian designed Ranger can't fit a standard Aust pallet between the wheel arches whereas only the VW Amarok can?
I still keep thinking they should have not bothered with FG-X and spent everything on one more Terry update...3.0L V6, 8speed ZF, upcoming safety tech from OS Ford divisions, Sync3,

Reading the latest GoAuto News, (on another side note) I didn't realise the Jeep Compass sold here is built in India and is claimed to be as good if not better offline quality to any other Jeep plant. Any chance the Indians suddenly can take a liking to a Bronco or three or an F-150 or a Lincoln Aviator???

Originally the Territory’ came about as a local replacement for the Explorer
and as with Falcon, it’s major feature was space efficiency, Everest never
stood a chance because the body was made too narrow with too much
tumble home curvature that stole precious hip and shoulder room.

This is the perception problem Ford has with Everest and Endura,
neither has the space efficiency of Territory and they both suffer
badly in comparison and that’s the reason both fail miserably.

Jeep are notorious for dreadful build quality and reliability, so saying
the quality of an Indian built Compass is just as good as an American
built one is not a glowing endorsement.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

I don't think at the time of setting the Ranger plans they envisaged it would end up being bought both as a work vehicle and one that covers some former Falcon and Terry buyers.
On a side note, I still don't understand how an Australian designed Ranger can't fit a standard Aust pallet between the wheel arches whereas only the VW Amarok can?
I still keep thinking they should have not bothered with FG-X and spent everything on one more Terry update...3.0L V6, 8speed ZF, upcoming safety tech from OS Ford divisions, Sync3,

Reading the latest GoAuto News, (on another side note) I didn't realise the Jeep Compass sold here is built in India and is claimed to be as good if not better offline quality to any other Jeep plant. Any chance the Indians suddenly can take a liking to a Bronco or three or an F-150 or a Lincoln Aviator???

Originally the Territory’ came about as a local replacement for the Explorer
and as with Falcon, it’s major feature was space efficiency, Everest never
stood a chance because the body was made too narrow with too much
tumble home curvature that stole precious hip and shoulder room.
T6 Everest project wasn’t started until 2011, they would have had
a pretty good idea that Territory was in its final run as the local
production ending announcement came in 2012 a year before
design lock in for Everest. I don’t think ford adapted to that
unfolding situation.

This is the perception problem Ford has with Everest and Endura,
neither has the space efficiency of Territory and they both suffer
badly in comparison and that’s the reason both fail miserably.

Jeep are notorious for dreadful build quality and reliability, so saying
the quality of an Indian built Compass is just as good as an American
built one is not a glowing endorsement.