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Old 17-04-2018, 11:55 AM   #31
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Bring over the BTTC Focus RS and clean up, Just like the did with the Cosworths

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Old 17-04-2018, 12:31 PM   #32
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Cheer up boys , it's the V8 for the forseeable future.
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It's official.....

Ford announces Mustang Supercars program

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Pretty simple really, its just a custom body shell over the existing Super car chassis.
more about getting permission from the US.

I see the Ranger Raptor is going to be the official recovery vehicle
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The chassis won't be exactly the same as it will need to be modified for the Mustang shape, much like the Crumpledore chassis was altered for the Peugeot.
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Pretty simple really, its just a custom body shell over the existing Super car chassis.
more about getting permission from the US.

I see the Ranger Raptor is going to be the official recovery vehicle


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The chassis won't be exactly the same as it will need to be modified for the Mustang shape, much like the Crumpledore chassis was altered for the Peugeot.
Control chassis, pretty sure the body will be modified to fit.

"Mustang’s return to the championship is also made possible through Supercars’ Gen2 rules platform, which opens up the championship to two-door cars and non-V8 engines, although significant work will be needed to allow the Mustang’s body shape to fit over the mandated control chassis."
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By the time they get through changing it to conform to COF rules, it'll look like a two door Commodore..
If Mustang get the TTV6, it will probably be the version used in the Ford GT, I wonder how they intend to nobble it...
and would Ford need to restart V6 sales to justify some form of homoligation?

Maybe just stick with the 5.0 V8 and give the competition a lesson in DOHC.
Why is it called COF anyway? The drive lines are ancient and so are the engines. Should be more accurately named COP (Cars of the past)
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I see Paul Gover showed his ignorance of the rules again when he asked when the 2 door body was going to ratified. Somethings never change.
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The chassis won't be exactly the same as it will need to be modified for the Mustang shape, much like the Crumpledore chassis was altered for the Peugeot.
Nah, they modify the body to suit, even the current super cars are a different dimensions for the Falcons, commodores, Nissans etc they represent.

The Mustang will be no different other than appearance and possible aerodynamics to the current setup.
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Possibly but they would have needed permissions first.

for instance they use a fusion body on the NASCARs not the Mustang - but that may be changing
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Possibly but they would have needed permissions first.

for instance they use a fusion body on the NASCARs not the Mustang - but that may be changing
Mustang is used in NASCAR, the Xfinity series.
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Is there a chance the V6TT will replace the 5.0? What is happening with the Ecoboost 2.3?
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Nah, they modify the body to suit, even the current super cars are a different dimensions for the Falcons, commodores, Nissans etc they represent.

The Mustang will be no different other than appearance and possible aerodynamics to the current setup.
I thought I read a while back that they will need to change the controlled chassis for suit coupes like Mustang & GTR. So we'd basically have 2 control chassis depending on the type of car..


But I could be wrong.
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Mustang is not used in Nascar main game but yes the Xfinity known as the minor league with mustang ala Development series here.
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I thought I read a while back that they will need to change the controlled chassis for suit coupes like Mustang & GTR. So we'd basically have 2 control chassis depending on the type of car..


But I could be wrong.
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Tim Edwards confirmed that Mustang body fits controlled chassis, so they can race as is.
Ranger Raptor is official recovery vehicle for V8 Supercars....

Looks like Ford is on the up elevator...

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Sound like they are going to run with the Euro/US "Ford Performance" moniker.............tantalisingly close to our home grown retired FPV brand but no cigar again I guess.

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I saw elsewhere that,
Tim Edwards confirmed that Mustang body fits controlled chassis, so they can race as is.
Ranger Raptor is official recovery vehicle for V8 Supercars....

Looks like Ford is on the up elevator...
The writing is on the wall for Commodore and maybe even Holden.
Supercars know what their next meal ticket is and the tides will start turning.
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ZB has a V6TT for 2019.. where does it say a V8?

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Here's an idea . Scrap the control chassis and engines altogether and base the Australian series on actual production cars . Nah , what was I thinking !!!!!.
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Here's an idea . Scrap the control chassis and engines altogether and base the Australian series on actual production cars . Nah , what was I thinking !!!!!.
production cars are slow and boring. there has been a production car series running for many years, but there is very little interest, certainly not enough for a tv rights deal.

http://australianproductioncars.com.au/
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Mustang is not used in Nascar main game but yes the Xfinity known as the minor league with mustang ala Development series here.
Mustang has been confirmed as running in the main game next year to replace the Fusion.
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production cars are slow and boring. there has been a production car series running for many years, but there is very little interest, certainly not enough for a tv rights deal.

http://australianproductioncars.com.au/
I was watching the Bathurst 6 hour a few weeks ago . Definitely slower but certainly not as boring as you might think . The finish was fascinating and just as intriguing as many Supercar races for me at least.

It'll never happen and I agree no hope of TV rights but in the early days of the ATCC in the mid to late sixties and early seventies the racing cars , Falcons , Monaro's , Torana's, Chargers and even Mustangs were raced a lot closer to showroom spec than later on. Some were even driven to and from racetracks . Different times and totally different sport to now .
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production cars are slow and boring. there has been a production car series running for many years, but there is very little interest, certainly not enough for a tv rights deal.

http://australianproductioncars.com.au/
Maybe more problematic, theres always a chance someones going to run away and become untouchable. Most series that arent a prototype or single make formula have some form of parity or BOP in place.
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Anyone remember the Gemini racing series?
Went to lakeside in the 1980s, fair dinkum thought it was a parade lap.
Old mate the Holden supporter next to me was not impressed with what I said.
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Mustang has been confirmed as running in the main game next year to replace the Fusion.
Correct, that is not now hence my quote.
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