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Edxr6 12-09-2023 11:24 AM

AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
Guys,

When I am under acceleration especially on the incline, the car will miss, at the same time I can hear like a squeal/screech noise from the motor. Any thoughts, I have no idea at this point in time. I will do a scan check for any fault codes, hopefully this Saturday.

Cheers

PG2 12-09-2023 12:12 PM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
Harmonic balancer.

Edxr6 12-09-2023 07:22 PM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PG2 (Post 6838694)
Harmonic balancer.

Will the Harmonic Balancer cause the miss, it’s just the one miss. Also there is no vibration what’s so ever with the motor.

aussiblue 12-09-2023 07:45 PM

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Quote:

Will the Harmonic Balancer cause the miss, it’s just the one miss. Also there is no vibration what’s so ever with the motor.
Yes, as it slips the timing goes out.

See:

https://dannysengineportal.com/harmo...warning-signs/
https://fluidampr.com/troubleshootin...nic-balancers/
https://automotiveden.com/harmonic-balancer/
https://www.techtips.ie/Gates/torsio...on-dampers.pdf
https://www.underhoodservice.com/har...ers-fail-look/

and Youtube on how to replace it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoI9Znd8m18

Etc

290GTP 13-09-2023 08:14 AM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
The fuel pump on my s3 XR8 would screech on occasion. Will also cause a miss.
Just a thought

Edxr6 13-09-2023 12:31 PM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 

Thanks Aussiblue, good bit of information. I will let you guys know of the outcome.

Edxr6 13-09-2023 12:36 PM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PG2 (Post 6838694)
Harmonic balancer.

Thanks PG2, interesting. I was more thinking of spark plug or leads. Nevertheless I am no mechanic or pretend to be one, hence this wonderful forum full of knowledge and experiences.

Cheers

Edxr6 13-09-2023 12:37 PM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 290GTP (Post 6838860)
The fuel pump on my s3 XR8 would screech on occasion. Will also cause a miss.
Just a thought

Thanks 290GT.

Edxr6 28-01-2024 11:28 AM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
OK, update. Replaced the Harmonic Balancer and the problem still exists?

Regards

mad2 28-01-2024 12:43 PM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edxr6 (Post 6870380)
OK, update. Replaced the Harmonic Balancer and the problem still exists?

Regards


as in one or both of the faults you mentioned?.


Quote:

the car will miss, at the same time I can hear like a squeal/screech noise from the motor.

T3rminator 28-01-2024 01:33 PM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
Missing when engine is under load (incline for example) could be a vac leak. If you get a lean code when scanning, then that increases the probability that its a vac leak.

As for the noise, a video can sometimes be useful to assist with internet diagnosis :)

DFB FGXR6 28-01-2024 07:00 PM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edxr6
Guys,

When I am under acceleration especially on the incline, the car will miss, at the same time I can hear like a squeal/screech noise from the motor. Any thoughts, I have no idea at this point in time. I will do a scan check for any fault codes, hopefully this Saturday.

Cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edxr6
OK, update. Replaced the Harmonic Balancer and the problem still exists?

Regards

Look into the camshaft synchronizer, which have a habit of becoming noisy like that and cause misfiring. A very common Windsor issue, but also other Ford V6 engines. You can lubricate them, but the effect is short lived and replacement is the best option.

https://automotivesuperstore.com.au/...SABEgJ79vD_BwE

https://www.autopartssupply.com.au/f...CABEgLPg_D_BwE






Peuty 28-01-2024 11:01 PM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
^^^this - the screech is a good sign that it’s the issue.

Simple enough job to do mate,

undertow 30-01-2024 12:30 AM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
Most likely the cam synchro as above, for a test or temporary workaround you can unscrew the black cap and tip a teaspoon of engine oil down there.

Back in the day people used to buy them from rock auto in the states, but there are local options now. The very last year or two of the 5.0 explorers had the same part. The Dorman one was dirt cheap but regarded as poor quality with several tales of the gear stripping or falling off and destroying the engine. I haven't keep up recently, but the genuine Motorcraft part would be the safest bet if it's still available.

Edxr6 30-01-2024 10:18 AM

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Thanks Undertow,

B.P.T Motorsport are selling the factory Camshaft Synchroniser's for a ridiculous price of $482, nevertheless there are quite a few on the market now. But I will try the oil treatment first, this will at least be a good indication it's the Camshaft Synchroniser, if the problem subsides temporarily.

Regards

raised by monkeys 30-01-2024 03:15 PM

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I ordered mine from the US years ago, delivery for under $130 i reckon

fordomatic 30-01-2024 05:15 PM

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They are still cheap, I got one recently from my parts guy for $145.

PG2 31-01-2024 12:55 AM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
Sorry Edxr6 that I lead you up the wrong path.

I should have said to check it first.

Edxr6 31-01-2024 03:01 PM

Re: AU XR8 series 3, 5 speed manual
 
All good PG2,

It would have needed to be changed in the near future I guess with 180,000klm on the clock. Most of the engine components are all factory, except the valve springs and retainers. They were only changed out because I had the common problem of a cracked valve spring and went with the heavy duty Crow set up.

I am guessing all the mechanic moving parts on these motors are coming to age and soon require replacing, it's all part of ongoing maintenance.

Cheers


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