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Bossxr8 10-10-2018 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by XByoot (Post 6201479)
Is there any standard communication protocols between these vehicles? For example in aviation if a reduction in seperation may occur and a solution is required It will involve the system communicating with both aircraft. It will typically involve one climbing and one descending but variances in solutions may occur. It’s a real simple system and current tech only involves creating vertical seperation, ie it doesn’t tell you to turn, it’s that basic, that’s the current bread and butter system.

Are these autonomous vehicles able to communicate with each other with some standard system protocols or are the manufacturers all just doing their own thing? It could look like a bunch of creepy crawly pool vacs all in one pool otherwise:yelrotflm
I know Ford are working on vehicle to vehicle communacation, and have been for a few years. I'm sure the others are too.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/f...n-at-ces-2018/

XByoot 10-10-2018 12:52 PM
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Yeah, I was referring to a standard protocol for ALL manufacturers, as in an industry standard. Having each manufacturer trying to come up with the best system may be all well and good, but they will need some standards to be able to communicate to all other vehicles or it’s just a sales gimmick as far as I’m concerned. People will expect a car to respond in a certain way...oh but wait...that’s a XYZ and my car doesn’t communicate with that. End result is no intruder prevention logic, just avoidance. Now that’s poorly lacking.

Then there will be the ongoing updates as unforseen incidents happen. Then who is responsible for keeping their vehicles updated? There will be a new breed of automation dependant muppets who will be even more dumbed down than now if that’s possible. Will it all happen? Yeah probably. Will it solve present issues? Maybe. Will it introduce new issues? Definately.

Bossxr8 10-10-2018 02:01 PM
Re: "Autonomous" Cars - here now?
 
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Originally Posted by XByoot (Post 6201565)
Yeah, I was referring to a standard protocol for ALL manufacturers, as in an industry standard. Having each manufacturer trying to come up with the best system may be all well and good, but they will need some standards to be able to communicate to all other vehicles or it’s just a sales gimmick as far as I’m concerned. People will expect a car to respond in a certain way...oh but wait...that’s a XYZ and my car doesn’t communicate with that. End result is no intruder prevention logic, just avoidance. Now that’s poorly lacking.

Then there will be the ongoing updates as unforseen incidents happen. Then who is responsible for keeping their vehicles updated? There will be a new breed of automation dependant muppets who will be even more dumbed down than now if that’s possible. Will it all happen? Yeah probably. Will it solve present issues? Maybe. Will it introduce new issues? Definately.
They would all have to be on the same system. Otherwise whats the point?

Crazy Dazz 21-06-2019 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bathurst77 (Post 6200750)
As someone whos daily commute is more than an hour each way on Freeway, can I ask, Please dont sit in the right hand lane of the freeway, and travel at the prevailing speed. Move the hell over to the left!
So you want me to travel slower?
Why?

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Originally Posted by bathurst77 (Post 6200750)
An hour isnt long just drive it and if you find the drive very stressful, maybe get there another way
Sorry, my flying DeLorean is out for repairs.

This was mostly a "thinking aloud" exercise.
Still contemplating adding a Mondeo to the stable.
I think the MD has these systems on most models. IIRC the MC might have had something on the Titanium. But either way, I guess its just a "nice to have" feature.

Sabantien 22-06-2019 08:26 AM
Re: "Autonomous" Cars - here now?
 
I would suggest that if you are interested in these driver aids so you can have a nap or zone out on your commute, a bus or train is a better option for you.

While I reckon adaptive cruise control would be the bees knees, surely lane assist would be more of a hazard in traffic. Even resisting your sharp turn before letting you make it, or forcing you to hit the blinker or the disengage button can reduce reaction times in a potential collision.

Guzz226 26-06-2019 12:06 AM
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Years and years away.

Even tightly designed hardware and software solutions like an iPhone have issues and crash and need reboots etc

I work in IT and I’ll be the last to trust a Jetsons mobile, no way would I even think about it for years.

True Level 5 automation is way way way away from the tech of today.

Sure progress is being made rapidly, but also consider the time of transition....Will the roads ever really have 100% level 5 cars all networked etc? No.


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