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Old 26-06-2019, 08:52 AM   #1
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Old 26-06-2019, 09:30 AM   #2
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Hopefully its not true, would be a damn shame.
The segment needs good competition.
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Old 26-06-2019, 01:30 PM   #4
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Yep way to go GM, instead of making it more available by designing it to also be RHD, just kill it instead.
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Old 26-06-2019, 06:21 PM   #5
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Typical GM short sighted decision making

I really hope this encourages Ford to make sure Mustang is in a great position going forward to take advantage of this.
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Old 26-06-2019, 06:41 PM   #6
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If they follow the lead of Bentley or Maserati, Mini, the next Mustang and Camaro will probably be bloated four door SUVs.
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If they follow the lead of Bentley or Maserati, Mini, the next Mustang and Camaro will probably be bloated four door SUVs.
...except the next nustsng isn't going to be a 4 door SUV.
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The big companies keep driving their loyal fans mad I think with announcements like these .. Lately it's more about dropping vehicles and mergers or joint ventures with other mobs .

I get it that rationilization is always an issue in car manufacturing but they are forgetting many of the loyal buyers who have made names like Camaro in GM's case iconic .

Even though I may never own a Mustang , the day Ford drops that nameplate will be the day I really consider my loyalty to Ford that's for sure especially now that Falcon has gone , never to return .

I suppose the Corvette is safe for the minute is it or are they going to hack that out too ?
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The big companies keep driving their loyal fans mad I think with announcements like these .. Lately it's more about dropping vehicles and mergers or joint ventures with other mobs .
In Fairness Roddy, GM has said nothing, the reports of non-development of gen 7 Camaro was a rumor form several sources, later qualified as GM possibly changing course to a BEV camaro in 2023.

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I get it that rationilization is always an issue in car manufacturing but they are forgetting many of the loyal buyers who have made names like Camaro in GM's case iconic .

Even though I may never own a Mustang , the day Ford drops that nameplate will be the day I really consider my loyalty to Ford that's for sure especially now that Falcon has gone , never to return .
Change away from cars has hit GM hard, they spent up big on both FWD and RWD cars only to see sales virtually collapse.

In comparison, Ford basically rode its One Ford cars into the ground and switched car plant production to more SUVs. GM on the other hand kills four car plants in US and imports SUVs from mexico - doesn't play well there.

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I suppose the Corvette is safe for the minute is it or are they going to hack that out too ?
C8 Corvette is now mid engine vehicle, completely different formula to what traditional Corvette is. I bet you the C8's price goes up through the roof and it sits like a wall flower because GM so bent on beating Ford GT fails to give its Corvette buyers what they expect or want.

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Old 26-06-2019, 06:44 PM   #10
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why not just send them over with Commodore on the boot,gotta be better than whats currently on offer.
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Old 26-06-2019, 06:41 PM   #11
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Old 26-06-2019, 08:24 PM   #12
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Maybe, the public - i mean - Trump, didn't want to give them anymore money!
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Sales in the USA are down in this segment and last time I checked Camaro was third behind the Mustang and Challenger

I wonder if this is the reason why the Camaro Supercar project never got off the ground?
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Old 26-06-2019, 08:47 PM   #14
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Do they ever think that sales may be down because they got the look wrong.
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Do they ever think that sales may be down because they got the look wrong.
They screwed it up by giving it the outward visibility of a shoebox. It drove away a lot of potential buyers. Why they don’t try to fix that on the next gen is beyond me. But then again, they are hot and cold on camaro, having killed it before.
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What’s HSV going to do - geld a mustang and sell a brumby?
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Movement at the station?
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Come on GM, give people a new look Camaro based on the second generation, now those look good.
Well the pre 1975 cars.
RS/SS and Z28.
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One of these is a muscle car. The other 2 look like fried rice....

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Indeed, the Challenger looks tops
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The same one is also an outdated 2 tonne land yacht.
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The same one is also an outdated 2 tonne land yacht.
The only reason Challenger sells in decent numbers is roomier rear seat and lower cost trim level with Hem V8.
If Ford sold an LX Mustang with 400 hp F150 V8, it would literally street the other two by miles, does so now.
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One of them is a Pony car ....the other 2 are not
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One of these is a muscle car. The other 2 look like fried rice....

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lol open up your other eye all 3 look awesome...

As for OP... Typical GM short sightedness.. Ford made the call to make the Mustang a "Global Car" by making in RHD and selling them all over the shop which make the model more viable in the long term...

GM?? Well they just kept heads in the sand and stuck to LHD only... A factory RHD Camaro sold here for similar coin to the Mustang would do bloody well..
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Internal sources suggest a delay of approx. 18 months. No other details yet.
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There were other styling directions that could have been taken
and you could almost squeeze a Monaro out of that...

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I can see a day when the Mustang might be gone also. Never say never and Ford is going out of cars. The market is changing and let's face it is an electric Mustang worth buying. People laugh at the ecoboost and I would rather that then an electric one.
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I can see a day when the Mustang might be gone also. Never say never and Ford is going out of cars. The market is changing and let's face it is an electric Mustang worth buying. People laugh at the ecoboost and I would rather that then an electric one.
Huh?
They're about to turn it and Bronco into sub-brands....
Next year Ford will be revealing a Hybrid coyote 5.0 in the Mustang...

Chebby can't be F'ed going with Ford...
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