vFacts July 2019

Syndrome · 05-08-2019, 01:45 AM

So another down month again?

Venomous1 · 05-08-2019, 04:49 AM

Minimalist Post.

Top 5:
Toyota HiLux - 5396
Ford Ranger - 4851
Hyundai i30 - 3343
Toyota Corolla - 2911
Mazda CX-5 - 2911

Ford Overall:7155 down -4.5%

Syndrome · 05-08-2019, 01:36 PM

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...05-p52dws.html

July 2019 at 8 year low

Syndrome · 05-08-2019, 01:50 PM

https://www.exhaustnotes.com.au/coro...ket-sag-slows/

According to the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI), the industry reported 83,184 sales for the month, a 2.8 per cent decrease from July 2018.

Syndrome · 05-08-2019, 01:54 PM

https://www.news.com.au/technology/i...04cd8579bf0200

Top 10 models
Toyota HiLux 3359
Toyota Corolla 3244
Ford Ranger 3168
Toyota RAV4 2419
Hyundai i30 2252
Mazda CX-5 2160
Mazda3 1894
Toyota LandCruiser 1885
Kia Cerato 1723
Toyota Prado 1620

Top 10 brands
Toyota 17,876
Mazda 8227
Hyundai 6983
Mitsubishi 5247
Ford 4900
Kia 4506
Nissan 3804
Volkswagen 3609
Subaru 3513
Holden 3266

Source: FCAI

Syndrome · 05-08-2019, 02:53 PM

https://www.caradvice.com.au/781090/...for-july-2019/

Sprintey · 05-08-2019, 05:40 PM

Corolla had a pretty good month. 3200 is a step up from mid 2000s. Anyone know if they are offering discounts on the high initial pricing?

unkey · 05-08-2019, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprintey

Corolla had a pretty good month. 3200 is a step up from mid 2000s. Anyone know if they are offering discounts on the high initial pricing?

They are offering 2018 builds at low interest rates.
The current sedan is in runout and Ascent selling well to fleets and Uber’s .
The Camry also did well ,11 th best seller overall.

prydey · 06-08-2019, 12:04 AM

1885 LC's! That's some lucrative business for Toyota.

Dr Terry · 06-08-2019, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

1885 LC's! That's some lucrative business for Toyota.

Since the Prado is also actually badged a Landcruiser, they total 3,505 sales for the month, which puts them in 2nd place.

Dr Terry

Syndrome · 06-08-2019, 11:20 AM

Vesper Martini · 06-08-2019, 11:37 AM

A lot will argue that there are better alternatives to the 5 Toyota's cars in the top 10.
But yet there they are..
Is it reputation for reliability? they are seldom the cheapest option.

In my experience the whole dealership service experience has a got a lot to do with it.

Wretched · 06-08-2019, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

A lot will argue that there are better alternatives to the 5 Toyota's cars in the top 10.
But yet there they are..
Is it reputation for reliability? they are seldom the cheapest option.

In my experience the whole dealership service experience has a got a lot to do with it.

I think it is more better the devil you know.

Personally, I am one of those in your first sentence, most of their range is bettered by something else.

Vesper Martini · 06-08-2019, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Terry

Since the Prado is also actually badged a Landcruiser, they total 3,505 sales for the month, which puts them in 2nd place.

Dr Terry

Actually 1st place, & 10th as a brand ahead of Holden

BENT_8 · 06-08-2019, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

A lot will argue that there are better alternatives to the 5 Toyota's cars in the top 10.
But yet there they are..
Is it reputation for reliability? they are seldom the cheapest option.

In my experience the whole dealership service experience has a got a lot to do with it.

I think amongst other things it has a lot to do with longevity of the particular model, my old man had a 71 Hilux, I can still buy a Hilux in 2019, must be ok and well sorted by now.
Same with Landcruiser, been evolving in all forms for decades, Prado from 96.
Corolla, around forever, Camry since 84ish, Rav4 since mid 90's.
The only mainstream product they've been inconsistent with was the smaller stuff, Paseo, Starlet, Echo, Yaris.

Compared to Ford where you've had..
Escort, Laser/Meteor, Focus
Cortina, Telstar. Mondeo
Festiva, KA, Fiesta
Courier, Ranger
Explorer, Territory, Everest
And so on.
Falcon was the only constant and they starved it of development.

Holden aren't much different, neither are Mazda or Mitsubishi.

naddis01 · 06-08-2019, 01:29 PM

Landcruiser wagon (200 series?) - 1163
Lancruiser pu/cc (70 series?) - 722

RAM +600%. RAM 1500 Laramie alone was only a few units short of outselling Patrol.

Smoke Pursuit · 06-08-2019, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

A lot will argue that there are better alternatives to the 5 Toyota's cars in the top 10.
But yet there they are..
Is it reputation for reliability? they are seldom the cheapest option.

In my experience the whole dealership service experience has a got a lot to do with it.

Toyota is all about perception... Quality cars with decent resale and sometimes good manufacturer finance offers...

They are consistent with what they do year in and year out.

Not the best engines or tech however. I could not own a current Prado or Hilux just because of their dated ICC / lack if Apple integration, but plenty of people seem to.

Interesting to see the drop in car purchases though overall. I remember growing up as a kid in the 80's people used to keep cars a lot longer, maybe we are going back to those trends especially now with 5 year warranties etc. For myself I used to upgrade alot more often when Ford were releasing new Falcons every 18 months or so, always wanted the latest and greatest, now I have nothing that excites me or makes me want to buy...

prydey · 06-08-2019, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naddis01

Landcruiser wagon (200 series?) - 1163
Lancruiser pu/cc (70 series?) - 722
.

Thought the breakdown would be more in favour of the 70 series.

That's a lot of 200's @ $100k+

anobserver · 06-08-2019, 01:56 PM

262 mustangs sold in July.

The used lot at the local Ford place is overflowing with 2017 models....

Vesper Martini · 06-08-2019, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Landcruiser wagon (200 series?) - 1163
Lancruiser pu/cc (70 series?) - 722

All $70K + vehicles. The fully optioned 70 series is around $130K

as Prydey says That's some lucrative business for Toyota.

naddis01 · 06-08-2019, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

All $70K + vehicles. The fully optioned 70 series is around $130K

as Prydey says That's some lucrative business for Toyota.

I thought the only option on them was air conditioning?

Sprintey · 06-08-2019, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Terry

Since the Prado is also actually badged a Landcruiser, they total 3,505 sales for the month, which puts them in 2nd place.

Dr Terry

Quote:

Originally Posted by prydey

1885 LC's! That's some lucrative business for Toyota.

https://oppositelock.kinja.com/why-t...ive-1715003811

Point 4, and Point 7 especially. Notwithstanding the current diesels...

Smoke Pursuit · 06-08-2019, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anobserver

262 mustangs sold in July.

The used lot at the local Ford place is overflowing with 2017 models....

All ex Ford cars.

Vesper Martini · 06-08-2019, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naddis01

I thought the only option on them was air conditioning?

Aircon is nearly 3 grand option itself

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...17399096/?Cr=0

hayseed · 06-08-2019, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naddis01

Landcruiser wagon (200 series?) - 1163
Lancruiser pu/cc (70 series?) - 722

RAM +600%. RAM 1500 Laramie alone was only a few units short of outselling Patrol.

I can see RAM eating into Landcruiser Sales, Big Time..

prydey · 06-08-2019, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

I can see RAM eating into Landcruiser Sales, Big Time..

Not for towing... Unless buyers don't do their due diligence.

Big_Daz · 06-08-2019, 03:02 PM

Fleet/Uber or not, Toyota a little more than twice second placed Mazda's sales.. Wow... New Rav 4 is selling awesome as its a huge step up from the last one and now has hybrid. They don't make anything all that great but brand perception and loyalty is their biggest strength and is something I don't think any mainstream manufacturer can match these days....

malazn mafia · 06-08-2019, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndrome

https://www.news.com.au/technology/i...04cd8579bf0200

Top 10 models
Toyota HiLux 3359
Toyota Corolla 3244
Ford Ranger 3168
Toyota RAV4 2419
Hyundai i30 2252
Mazda CX-5 2160
Mazda3 1894
Toyota LandCruiser 1885
Kia Cerato 1723
Toyota Prado 1620

Top 10 brands
Toyota 17,876
Mazda 8227
Hyundai 6983
Mitsubishi 5247
Ford 4900
Kia 4506
Nissan 3804
Volkswagen 3609
Subaru 3513
Holden 3266

Source: FCAI

Haven’t looked at vFacts in a long time. Kia nearly outselling Ford, no Holden vehicles in the top 10 and Holden just about to fall out of the top 10. If anyone mentioned this just five years ago, most would have called them crazy

BENT_8 · 06-08-2019, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Haven’t looked at vFacts in a long time. Kia nearly outselling Ford, no Holden vehicles in the top 10 and Holden just about to fall out of the top 10. If anyone mentioned this just five years ago, most would have called them crazy

Kia topped Ford twice since Christmas.

Bossxr8 · 06-08-2019, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

A lot will argue that there are better alternatives to the 5 Toyota's cars in the top 10.
But yet there they are..
Is it reputation for reliability? they are seldom the cheapest option.

In my experience the whole dealership service experience has a got a lot to do with it.

Massive fleet sales, and a huge dealer network. Plus cars with solid reputations that have been around forever like corolla, camry, hilux, lc etc.