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Old 16-04-2008, 09:01 AM   #1
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Hey all,

My only set of keys have been locked in the boot of my car -- no, it wasn't me . The cabin is unlocked, but due to the LPG tank in the boot I can't get an arm into the boot space to pull the manual release tag on the boot lid.

Is there any way to get into the boot with the cabin unlocked? The electronic boot release button wants the keys (I assume for accessory power..) so it doesn't work.

One idea I had was to pop the boot release switch out and trigger it with a 12v power source (spare battery) -- although I'm paranoid that the boot-release is wired through the immoboliser, and that manually powering it cause other, more expensive problems.

Advice appreciated!

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Old 16-04-2008, 09:51 AM   #2
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How about the old coat hanger, see if you can grab it that way through the back seat?

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Old 16-04-2008, 09:57 AM   #3
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I feel your pain...I spent $140 on taxi fares home & back to get the spare keys.

As said above, if the boot's reasonably empty you might be able to get the NRMA/RAC/AA to open the car doors and then snag the keys with some wire under the tank.

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Old 16-04-2008, 10:09 AM   #4
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you have 2 options.

Drill a 25mm hole in the boot under the number plate and fish the manual trigger wire out, then put a rubber grommet in the hole and refit your number plate
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with a large screw driver hold the top of the rear bar down enough to allow you access to the 2 * 10mm bolts that hold the boot striker to the body. Once you have those bolts out the boot will fly open

PS you know you can get extensions for that manual trigger wire from Ford that velcro onto the parcel tray
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Old 16-04-2008, 10:17 AM   #5
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PS you know you can get extensions for that manual trigger wire from Ford that velcro onto the parcel tray
Good idea. I'm going to follow this up!!
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Old 16-04-2008, 10:43 AM   #6
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it's actually a complete new cable to replace the shorter original one i got one for my car thell the you want the release cable off the tickford dual fuel car
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Old 16-04-2008, 10:52 AM   #7
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it's actually a complete new cable to replace the shorter original one i got one for my car thell the you want the release cable off the tickford dual fuel car
Thats excatly what i have... so maybe search some wreckers for Ex-Taxi's and buy one...
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Old 16-04-2008, 01:43 PM   #8
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you have 2 options.

Drill a 25mm hole in the boot under the number plate and fish the manual trigger wire out, then put a rubber grommet in the hole and refit your number plate
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with a large screw driver hold the top of the rear bar down enough to allow you access to the 2 * 10mm bolts that hold the boot striker to the body. Once you have those bolts out the boot will fly open

PS you know you can get extensions for that manual trigger wire from Ford that velcro onto the parcel tray
When I couldn't get into the boot on the EL because the release cable snapped (which rendered both the key and the remote useless), I had to cut into it behind the number plate, using a grinder. It's now patched and the number plate hides it perfectly, but what a PITA!
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Old 16-04-2008, 02:00 PM   #9
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yeah, we went around to all the cabs one day and put on the longer (tickford style) cables on the aftermarket dual fuel cars - very cheap insurance. every dual fuel sedan should have one!

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get a second set of keys! every AU came standard with two sets.
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Old 16-04-2008, 02:17 PM   #10
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Thanks for the suggestions guys (in particular RaceCraft) -- the boot has a couple of bulky items in it, so fishing out the keys with a coat-hangar is a no-go. Regardless, I can't actually see into the bootspace from the cabin, so it'd be a nightmare blindly stabbing around for my keys

I like the idea of unbolting striker.. didn't think of that. Regardless, I can't actually see into the bootspace from the cabin, so it'd be a nightmare blindly stabbing around for my keys

My best bet at this stage is to have the car towed to a Ford service centre (RACQ Ultra care should take care of this) and fork out the ~$125 for a new key. I need a spare anyway. I bought the car from a dealer in Melbourne about 4 years ago, and they only supplied one key. Never occurred to me at the time to ask them to supply a spare.

Again, thanks for the suggestions.
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Old 16-04-2008, 02:26 PM   #11
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Pull out the 5A fuse top second from the right in the fuse box for 3-5 secs and push the release button twice.
It worked on my AU3. Complements of the RAA.

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Pull out the 5A fuse top second from the right in the fuse box for 3-5 secs and push the release button twice.
It worked on my AU3. Complements of the RAA.

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That would have to be the best suggestion yet! well done TB2
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Pull out the 5A fuse top second from the right in the fuse box for 3-5 secs and push the release button twice.
It worked on my AU3. Complements of the RAA.

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Is that push the button after reinstalling the fuse, or while the fuse is out?

I assume that resets the BEM so it restarts the 10 minute window in which to open the boot after the ignition is switched off.
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Old 16-04-2008, 03:56 PM   #14
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I'm not sure. This is the note my wife made after the RAA undoing the boot for her. I was not there.
In the factory gas cars they have a boot release behind the back seat swab. You can get these from spare partys for about $30. my 2X AU's have both got them now.

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Old 16-04-2008, 08:17 PM   #15
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You can also remove the lower shroud on the steering column to expose the back of the ignition barrell and use a jump wire to apply power to the accessory or ignition circuit, then press the boot release button.
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Removing the fuse is the easiest option and yes it does work.
Remove fuse, put fuse in, press button.
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Old 16-04-2008, 08:32 PM   #17
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^^^^^

I think I will make a discrete note of this tip and stick it in the glove box.
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Old 17-04-2008, 10:26 PM   #18
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That's awesome work guys ... I never knew that.
You learn something new everyday I guess.
Not that I need to now it ... I have a tonneau cover over my boot ... I always have easy access to it :P
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Old 17-04-2008, 10:48 PM   #19
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there should a boot release cable behind the back seat{Left hand side fold out the 60/40 seat,and you'll see the cable.
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If it had a sub woofer in it (they take that out as it sits too low for the gas tank) then just remove the speaker grille, put arm through and feel for the boot release cable.
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Mojo,
The boot release you are talking about are in factory gas cars. Retrofit gas kits do not come with these (or air box lid springs)

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But ghia's got it though, cause both our fairlane ghia and fairmont ghia have it.
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Old 18-04-2008, 03:26 AM   #23
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my xr6 has a boot release cable just behind the left hand side rear seat. no gas in my car either
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I have taken the parcel shelf out and fished out the wire via the speaker holes once before. Boot was almost empty but. Then I put an extension on the trip wire, just used some fishing line trace wire and ran it behind the back seat. Of course I never needed it again after that.
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My cars have been Forte's and Futura's and they have not had them in. At lease the ligher level models have these fitted. The bracket looks like it will accept two cables, one from inside the boot and the other behind the back swab.
My wife took the kids to the national park which is fairly remote from anywhere to have a picnic during a school holidays and locked the keys in the boot. it took the RAA over an hour or so to respond. At lease she had the insight to write down how he opened the boot for next time.
I fitted the cables just in case anyway. I did not even know they were available until I got a second hand factory gas AU2 after this.

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Not just the Ghia with the boot release behing the seat, mine's just a fairmont and it has it.
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Thanks -- the fuse-trick worked a treat!
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Pull out the 5A fuse top second from the right in the fuse box for 3-5 secs and push the release button twice.
It worked on my AU3. Complements of the RAA.

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going to have to remember that one. thats brilliant..... how many times do you want to grab something out the boot and you left your keys inside the house......
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:59 AM   #29
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Hello everyone.I would like to post this suggestion about opening a boot when you have no keys no power (vehicle dismantled) and an LPG cylinder in the way.What a nightmare we bought a 1999 au s pack,that had the entire front dash disamantled,no key needless to say no power and of course the boot was closed..I lifted the parcel shelf just enough to try and get my arm/hand through to try and reach the release cable but couldn't find it.But I could see the boot lock and there was a round plastic part with a slot in it.If you can imagine something like a large flat head screw (well sort of)..So I got a long straight thin and very solid metal bar to the end of that I taped on a flat head screw-driver.I inserted the rod under the parcel shelf, right in the middle, (while trying to shine the torch)and when I thought it was in the right place I turned the rod..Voila I heard a click and to my amazement it opened!!!! As it turned out the boot release cable was there but had been stretched and was just hanging/dangling.Now the boot lid was not the original one it was from an au but had the fairmont ghia badges on it. I have attached 3 images.
One shows the very technical tool I made and the boot release cable.
Another is the plastic flat looking screw I tried to explain earlier.
And then an image from inside the car looking from the parcel shelf through to the boot lock.
Must say I was proud of myself as my other half and his mate had spent quite some time coming up with many ideas and scoffed at my idea.
I hope that some one finds this helpful.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:01 AM   #30
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Just noticed the heading says AUII that isn't correct.This vehicle would be one of the first in the AU series.Sorry about that!!
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