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Old 06-07-09, 01:16 PM   #1
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The Queensland Fatal Four....

It will be interesting to see how a reduction in overtime of our Police road patrols, and a change of color scheme for four of the patrol cars, will impact on our spiraling road toll....

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The State Government yesterday unveiled its latest "Fatal Four" campaign aimed at lowering the road toll.

Four highly visible police cars - painted blue, red, purple and green and emblazoned with the words "speed", "seat belts", "drink driving" and "driving tired" - will patrol the southeast corner of the state to remind motorists of the most common reasons for road death.

Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson said the vehicles would operate in a group to help boost awareness of driving safely and if successful could be rolled out around the state."(This year's toll) still comes back to the fatal four and that's why we've done this," Mr Atkinson said
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Suppose they have to be seen doing something, but at the end of the day it's down to us, the driver, oh and the other idiots on the road you have to factor in.
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What has actually happened here is a HUGE increase in the number of unmarked traffic vehicles wandering up and down the highway.

Anna is broke and needs money, rego up, fuel up, speeding fines up, number of speed cameras and traffic cars up.....

But she will get re-elected again and again, stupid is as stupid does.......

I do soooo miss QLD before the mass migration of southerners.......
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Would it be an acknowledgement that unmarked cars are simply there to "catch" people speeding as compared to "trying to stop" people from speeding by having police in highly visible patrol cars????
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What has actually happened here is a HUGE increase in the number of unmarked traffic vehicles wandering up and down the highway.

Anna is broke and needs money, rego up, fuel up, speeding fines up, number of speed cameras and traffic cars up.....

But she will get re-elected again and again, stupid is as stupid does.......

I do soooo miss QLD before the mass migration of southerners.......



i came to QLD from the NT, it took me a long time to get used to the revenue raisers, oops i mean highway patrol. i think the socialists are doing their best to trash the NT as well, no more open speed limit was just the start :evil3: life used to be sooo simple :
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This might help though......

Loved to have seen the guy shout "no way copper" then floor it.....



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"ANYTIME, anywhere" goes the police RBT mantra. To this, they could add "and in any vehicle". On Hamilton Island, not even those driving golf buggies can escape the long arm of the law wielding an alcometer.

In one of the state's more unusual drink-driving blitzes, Whitsunday police hit Hamilton Island at the weekend with their sights set on boozing buggy drivers.
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"ANYTIME, anywhere" goes the police RBT mantra. To this, they could add "and in any vehicle". On Hamilton Island, not even those driving golf buggies can escape the long arm of the law wielding an alcometer.

In one of the state's more unusual drink-driving blitzes, Whitsunday police hit Hamilton Island at the weekend with their sights set on boozing buggy drivers.





i'd love to know if the police officer is REALLY thinking that his job is fair dinkum :MrT_anim:
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Agree 100% with flappist on this. What an absolute scam we have gotten ourselves into. Not only do we end up with nothing in terms of progress from our governments, but we end up paying extra for these idiots to give us nothing. Not better roads, schools, hospitals or infrastructure and we pay more for nothing every year. When will the citizenry realise that socialist governments are nothing but under-achieving evasive twats with Oedipul syndrome and a plethora of awards for mediocrity?
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- painted blue, red, purple and green and emblazoned with the words "speed", "seat belts", "drink driving" and "driving tired"


They are doing the same thing in SA, except they are calling them, Tinky Winky, Dipsy, LaLa & Po.
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DAMMIT!!! :

And here i was thinking the chosen state was leading the way....
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What has actually happened here is a HUGE increase in the number of unmarked traffic vehicles wandering up and down the highway.

Anna is broke and needs money, rego up, fuel up, speeding fines up, number of speed cameras and traffic cars up.....

But she will get re-elected again and again, stupid is as stupid does.......

I do soooo miss QLD before the mass migration of southerners.......

Harden up flappy i moved here aswell and love it
But your right she is broke so anyway they can make some money they will, as you said fuel and rego up power is up aswell. Selling off assets, anything to make some quick money to get them closer to being out of the red. Whats the state of the QLD economy atm, how much in debt are we....
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Atleast thats 4 XR's sold by Ford, unfortunately we the tax paper are paying for them. But oh well, we pay for everything else.

I have a gripe, and this seems the time/place to do it.

Why the bloody hell do road works cost money? If road crews are paid anyway? How can it be billions of $$$$$ For the bloody things? Seriously i don't get it, your paying the men in orange, none of the equiptment their using is new, so whats the go? I no tar and what not cost money.....but if people are on the payroll anyway, there should be no (or next to none) cost increases over the usual. I call BS.
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Why the bloody hell do road works cost money? If road crews are paid anyway? How can it be billions of $$$$$ For the bloody things? Seriously i don't get it, your paying the men in orange, none of the equiptment their using is new, so whats the go? I no tar and what not cost money.....but if people are on the payroll anyway, there should be no (or next to none) cost increases over the usual. I call BS.


the govt don't do the road works or own the equipment. it is all outsourced and the equipment is hired. depending on what is being done, their is a lot of materials being consumed as well. also fuel costs etc etc
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if they were serious about fixing the road toll in Qld they should start looking at making the highway 2 lanes both ways from brissy right through to cairns and from townsville to the nt border and also the main highway from brissy way through longreach to the nt border.
yes it will cost money but what price can they put on a persons life?we do after all pay loads for power,rego etc etc.
at the very least they should have a whole lot more overtaking lanes.
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About $750,000,000.00 per year.........

Would you prefer that a person who was about to murder your family and friends was jailed afterwards or prevented from doing it in the first place?


Flawed logic, people still do, as punishment is no deterrent. We're all adults and know what the law is.

Does it mean that if you cannot see the police, it is OK to speed?
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There's an old saying: "Locked doors only keep honest people out..." a thief will still try to find a way in.

We need to work out what the govt objective is, to deter honest people or catch and punish the thief?
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Flawed logic, people still do, as punishment is no deterrent. We're all adults and know what the law is.

Does it mean that if you cannot see the police, it is OK to speed?
No, common sense, not revenue driven socialist agenda.

NOBODY overtakes a marked police car (well not twice anyway).

Large signs (like NSW not the tiny hidden ones QLD have) saying SPEED CAMERA will slow people down much more effectively than hidden cameras.

The proof is beyond obvious, Victoria has 400 bazillion speed cameras and STILL makes hundreds of millions a year out of it so it is very obvious that hidden weapons are not a deterrent.
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The proof is beyond obvious, Victoria has 400 bazillion speed cameras and STILL makes hundreds of millions a year out of it so it is very obvious that hidden weapons are not a deterrent.

Or some people have too much money and are happy to keep donating to the Republic of Victoria socialist regime..!
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I think I'm becoming Denny Crane. After a lifetime of media bombardment I think I'm finally numb to the endless diatribe about road tolls, hospitals and education. All it has brought us more and more social engineering; not such a big thing for generation Ys, because they don't know any better, but us baby boomers pine for the little freedoms we had and didn't savour them.

Here's a wild thought, maybe the govt and it's police force might like to engage the public rather than perpetuating the "them and us" divide. Perhaps the silent majority would like less penalties and less deaths/casualties, it might even lead to a community spirit.

Queensland was a much better place when the police were busy doing deals/business with the criminals, you could drive on the streets, have parties, etc, safe in the knowledge the cops were in the bars getting drunk, laid and paid. :evil3:
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No, common sense, not revenue driven socialist agenda.

NOBODY overtakes a marked police car (well not twice anyway).

Large signs (like NSW not the tiny hidden ones QLD have) saying SPEED CAMERA will slow people down much more effectively than hidden cameras.

The proof is beyond obvious, Victoria has 400 bazillion speed cameras and STILL makes hundreds of millions a year out of it so it is very obvious that hidden weapons are not a deterrent.



I know - preaching to the converted here, but; would it not be fair to say that you should make it a general practice to not speed ALL the time when you drive? That way you don't have to worry about which cars are police cars?
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if they were serious about fixing the road toll in Qld they should start looking at making the highway 2 lanes both ways from brissy right through to cairns and from townsville to the nt border and also the main highway from brissy way through longreach to the nt border.
yes it will cost money but what price can they put on a persons life?we do after all pay loads for power,rego etc etc.
at the very least they should have a whole lot more overtaking lanes.


Simple answer, Queensland is broke.....

But by spending what little money they have around the most populated area of Qld ie: Brisbane, SE Qld, it looks like they are doing something to the biggest audience, and that way hopefully garner enough votes the next time around.....

Thats the way i see it anyhow.....
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No, common sense, not revenue driven socialist agenda.

NOBODY overtakes a marked police car (well not twice anyway).

Large signs (like NSW not the tiny hidden ones QLD have) saying SPEED CAMERA will slow people down much more effectively than hidden cameras.

The proof is beyond obvious, Victoria has 400 bazillion speed cameras and STILL makes hundreds of millions a year out of it so it is very obvious that hidden weapons are not a deterrent.



maybe all the abandoned cars on the side of QLD's road they should stick speed camera signs behind them
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